t5 keeping turbo but adding a supercharger

**woking rob** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 19:49

has any1 thought about doing this? coz i think it shouldnt b that hard
850 t5 without aircon so u got somewhere to mount it some custom pipe work good remap a a better ecu = loads of boost no lag would it b this easy?

o and a good rebuild ha ha

**p fandango** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:01

i did think about it some time again & even planned out the pipework & how it would go, i was going to use a supercharger off the new Mini Cooper S but the the price of secondhand ones shot up for some reason. You can even buy the adaptor plate for the superchargers so they can be plumbed in using normal pipes instead of the chambers which they use on the BMW engines

**woking rob** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:07

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-Mini-Coope...item2304702fc3 there is a mini one but i was thinking somthing a bit smaller like this g60 one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-G60-Corrado...item2557d694e0 but an upgrad to this but that sort of size

will it work?

**linkin582** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:13

you can pick one up fairly cheep off a vw corrado g60. they are only a 1.8 so it should drop off as the turbo kicks in !!!! or of a polo g40 parts are cheep enough and easy to get thou a vw dealer !!!

**p fandango** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:14

the G60 one is knackered, the case is holed. What turbo you thinking of running with it? I get no lag off my 19t so tbh i wouldn't bother inless your going really big, in which case you've got to start looking at way to divert the air once the turbo pressure builds so the supercharger is strangling the air for the turbo

**Volvostorm** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:16

The supercharger I've been looking at for my Sierra 24v is a Rotrex, it's about the size of an alternator. bit less bulky than the mini cooper one

http://www.rotrexsuperchargers.co.uk/c30.htm

**woking rob** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:25

im not at the mo just thinking about if it would work
and i no i was just showing u the shape charger i was thinking about
i could get a coustom mount made
if i put a stage2 g60 charger (good for 250bhp on its own) on my standard t5
put the boost pipes into the turbo boost pipes with a bigger alloy intercooler green injectors and a good remap and full 3"exaust no cat would this work?

**p fandango** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:30

Originally Posted by Pault5estate

The supercharger I've been looking at for my Sierra 24v is a Rotrex, it's about the size of an alternator. bit less bulky than the mini cooper one

http://www.rotrexsuperchargers.co.uk/c30.htm

have a look at the Suzuki Hayabusa conversion Rotrex do, they've got a video of one pushing 310bhp@wheel lol

**p fandango** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:33

Originally Posted by woking rob

im not at the mo just thinking about if it would work
and i no i was just showing u the shape charger i was thinking about
i could get a coustom mount made
if i put a stage2 g60 charger (good for 250bhp on its own) on my standard t5
put the boost pipes into the turbo boost pipes with a bigger alloy intercooler green injectors and a good remap and full 3"exaust no cat would this work?

i can't see why not, as i say my concern would be the supercharger sufficating the air for the turbo. Which as the G60 is going to at the top of its flow at 250bhp will start to be an issue. Say personally i don't think its worth the effort developing for the little amount of lag you get

**p fandango** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:40

my bro did have a hybrid turbo/supercharger unit he was going to fit on his F*rd 100e company van. It was quite a small unit so wouldn't of ran much power but was like a small turbo in a cylinder, had the normal turbo pipework but had a pulley on the end of the shaft. I assume internally it was on a freewheeling system so once the exhaust gases had built up enough the inner turbine rotated free from the pulley so the turbo bit took over

**linkin582** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:40

it would be a hell of a lot of work thou ! why not look at twin turbo system little feeding big .i think one of the new bmw's run this set up.im sure someone will lets know what it is on !!!

**woking rob** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:43

i just wanna do somthing diffrent and have ago at making somthing

**p fandango** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:44

Originally Posted by linkin582

it would be a hell of a lot of work thou ! why not look at twin turbo system little feeding big .i think one of the new bmw's run this set up.im sure someone will lets know what it is on !!!

thats quite an old idea, not sure what other cars have used it in the past

or how about running 2 big turbo's, don't worry about space (i might of just found why i'm cutting my spare wheel well out of BT lol)

**linkin582** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 20:53

it was on the new 3 series oil burner !the theory is the same thou .if you want
something diffrent how about a small block.lol

**p fandango** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 21:02

Originally Posted by linkin582

if you want something diffrent how about a small block.lol

seen it done on a wide arched Volvo 700 at Avon, it was slower than the T-5's lol

**woking rob** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 21:12

i was gonna put a 305 small block in my old mk2 feaista but my uncle has got 1 in a mazda pick up and his cousin has laods of projects like a old nash a chev bellair with a 7.2 twin turbo and a lil fiat what he is gonna put a v12 masarti engine in lol

**linkin582** · Tuesday 22nd December 2009, 21:28

is he putting the v12 in the fiat or the fiat in the v12 !!!

**woking rob** · Wednesday 23rd December 2009, 07:13

v12 in the fiat,

**Al115** · Wednesday 23rd December 2009, 08:23

Originally Posted by p fandango

seen it done on a wide arched Volvo 700 at Avon, it was slower than the T-5's lol

I was there that day as well... those guys got more and more upset as the day wore on!!!

Good project though.

**claymore** · Wednesday 23rd December 2009, 11:29

thers no way the mini sc would work, it's only good for about 220bhp, then it would actually start restricting the flow, much better to use one off a jaguar xjr, I was going to do something similar to my fiat marea, but there just wasn't enough room for the turbo. I have looked at puting a supercharger on the t5, but I dont think there would be enough room without some majour surgery.