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    Quote Originally Posted by graemewelch View Post
    im wary of hearsay on forum. best taking some things with a pinch of salt. a lot of coments get made on forums by people who have no knolodge or experience with cars then then they read a few threads and then try to offer advise on what theyve read. ill only offer advise on something i have first hand experience of.
    As I have said before mate check the pump first .whatever happens everything has to be checked and double checked to make sure things are 100 percent before this car goes back in the road.whatever parts are used check for any wear .the old engine was a good engine so I would use the crank etc from that block and use the top block off the new one .

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    isnt this why blackbeast broke his motor? oil pump problems?

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    I'm still using the original pump in my 940 no wear at all .and very soon starting again

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    Sorry to see this Dave

    But What the guys are saying about the oil pumps looks right to me!
    The problem with the new/reworked oil pumps is there are a literally a few screws missing, In mine, a new Pump was used! but it needed said screws replacing and it also needed 2 O rings on the pick up pipe to stop oil passing when it got hot!
    I know Some folk here have a T5D5 hate thing going on but times like this everyone should club together to figure out such problems!
    Speaking to Tim Williams would be a good start as said if you can get hold of the guy he is a very busy man!
    If not try Also Asking BarnsleyBill had an engine failure due to the oil pump, so did Black Beast, but was able to catch it before it failed, Steve's car went on to do Multipul Track days, was nothing short of brilliant and was broken because he wanted to try something different!
    Try asking one of them guys?

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    Given this information I may well be tempted to use the oil pump (used on multiple track days) from my old engine.

    I've read T5D5 and there appear to be some contention about materials used in the newer pumps, which struggle when they get proper hot - which it would have done on that day.
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    is it posible to get a uprated high pressure oil pump.
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    The only way you'd be able to use any sort of uprated oil pump would be to go with a dry sump setup i'd have thought?

    If you want a lighter crank go for the later crank, IIRC it's 3.7kg lighter, that's what I swapped to when I rebuilt my engine recently. I also fitted two O rings on the oil pickup tube, off Tim's recommendation, they're a §§§§§§ to fit in, but once they're in it's a good tight fit.

    If you want the name of a good crank grinding guy let me know, he's out near Leicester though, works in the same workshop as a balancer, I took all of my engine over there and got everything dynamically balanced before building it. (Bargain price too!)
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    Assuming you mean the oil pickup in the middle of the sump right? - the one with the gauze on the inlet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobbly Dave View Post
    Assuming you mean the oil pickup in the middle of the sump right? - the one with the gauze on the inlet?
    Yep double ring it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobbly Dave View Post
    Assuming you mean the oil pickup in the middle of the sump right? - the one with the gauze on the inlet?
    Yep, thats the one Eddy means.

    Have a look at the oil pump, any wear on the gears, relief valve or casing throw it in the bin.

    Were the rods checked for tolerances before fitting? There have been a few cases where the chinese forged rods are too tight, pinches on the bearing/crank and you can guess the rest.

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    Guess which one is worn

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    Definitely going to push for a greater attention to detail. I did not oversee the build to that level. But for sure I am upping the ante this time.
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    TBF mate if you thought it was a new oil pump, then why would you expect it to fail?

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    But what I am reading is that the new pumps are not that good - but you're right it was the last thing on my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stribo View Post
    TBF mate if you thought it was a new oil pump, then why would you expect it to fail?
    Because Volvo have let their standards slip. They supply new oil pumps when they are actually remanufactured, they should have 2 bolts holding the 2 cases together, however they only have the one bolt from 'new' and the pressure relief valve is made out of plastic rather than metal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBeast View Post
    Because Volvo have let their standards slip. They supply new oil pumps when they are actually remanufactured, they should have 2 bolts holding the 2 cases together, however they only have the one bolt from 'new' and the pressure relief valve is made out of plastic rather than metal.
    I know what you're saying, and obviously that's the case, but when one buys a new pump they expect it to be brand new, and not fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stribo View Post
    I know what you're saying, and obviously that's the case, but when one buys a new pump they expect it to be brand new, and not fail.
    But they aren't brand new, they take an old one, machine it and sell it as brand new when it is infact remanufactured. Never buy a 'new' Volvo oil pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBeast View Post
    But they aren't brand new, they take an old one, machine it and sell it as brand new when it is infact remanufactured. Never buy a 'new' Volvo oil pump.
    We know now, it's a kick in the guts to find out the hard way though.

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    I can't believe what I've just read, that's seriously bad luck Dave, I hope you can get it resolved quickly so you can be out in the car again soon

    1 thing re. the oil supply issue, if that was the failure..I'd have expected the bearing furthest away from the oil pump to breakdown first if it was an oil supply/pressure issue?


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    Another few hours spent. Top half of the engine is all cleared away ready for the drop. Tomorrow I'll be working underneath again. It's a PITA from a design perspective that the PAS hard pipe passes right under the block so there's no way to clear it to one side.

    One advantage of doing it at home - means I can take my time & not have to worry about being in someone's way.
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