At last...

**T5ER** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 13:41

i thought the bonnet looked like it was made from grp

**p fandango** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 15:26

Originally Posted by Al115

Interesting Fact of the Day, #1: my "BSR Stage 3" map is apparently identical to a "RICA Stage 1" map.

makes you wonder what the BSR Stage 1 & 2 are then really

**T5ER** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 15:27

Originally Posted by p fandango

makes you wonder what the BSR Stage 1 & 2 are then really

worthless ?????

**irf** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 15:41

not rubbishing anyone but it sounds like the info has come from RICA? if so, hardly unbiased.

**Al115** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 16:39

I don't think they were bullsh*tting about the maps being identical, but as I said, I'm not sure what you can conclude by that.

Still running on the dyno... now with bigger injectors.

**p fandango** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 16:41

Originally Posted by irf

not rubbishing anyone but it sounds like the info has come from RICA? if so, hardly unbiased.

i think you'll find anyone in any trade is biased in one way or another, i've not found many businesses that recommend you go to there competitors instead

**irf** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 17:01

Originally Posted by Al115

I don't think they were bullsh*tting about the maps being identical, but as I said, I'm not sure what you can conclude by that.

yep, certainly wasn't implying that you were lying and apologies if it came across like that, just saying i'd probably take it with a pinch of salt.

Originally Posted by Al115

Still running on the dyno... now with bigger injectors.

good luck with it. do you have any say in what you want? would be interested in what they do with regards throttle vs boost.

**Al115** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 17:58

75 miles on the dyno and a third of a tank of fuel later...

...we learn that the limit of the turbo on this engine is 276 bhp and 413 NM of torque. Compare with stock of 200 bhp / 300 NM, and RICA's standard ECU upgrade of 235 bhp / 345 NM. I'm happy!

This setup was always going to be a compromise on the power figures in exchange for driveability (If I'd wanted all-out power, I'd have stuck with the GT3076R) so the headline numbers aren't that important. What IS important to me is the fuelling, which is now good across the range, and the torque, which is frankly ridiculous from a 1.9 litre block!

Haven't had a good chance to drive it yet, but I'm sure it'll be fun!

Huge Thank You to the RICA guys who spent pretty much all day getting it right.

I can also now say that I have had owned cars with an MTE map, an SW Autos map, a BSR map, and a RICA map... and they've all been good

**Redbrick** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 18:10

Can you give us some idea of cost Al? I have RICA on my D5 but there is no one out there AFAIK custom tuning them, I'm thinking this may be an option...

Thanks
Andy

**S70T5Chris** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 18:19

Have you got an afr plot Al?

**Al115** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 19:01

Originally Posted by Redbrick

Can you give us some idea of cost Al? I have RICA on my D5 but there is no one out there AFAIK custom tuning them, I'm thinking this may be an option...

Thanks
Andy

€375 + Vat + the trip to the NL, to put it bluntly

**Al115** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 19:02

Originally Posted by S70T5Chris

Have you got an afr plot Al?

No - I only took away plots of the style you see above. However we did overlay AFR on the graphs as we were mapping, to spot where we needed to add fuel. End result required larger injectors (I went with 750ccs, which I happened to have and gives me a lot of spare capacity!) and was very satisfactory.

**Al115** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 19:04

Three findings from my 50-mile road test:

Pulls like a train. Wooo, wooo!
Pops and bangs on overrun like a good-un.
I estimate that MPG is up 15-20% for equivalent driving. Good news.

**PaulZX** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 19:09

that's some torque from that wee little engine... well done that man, that's a superb result.....

**Jamest5r** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 19:22

See you on the 1/4 mile in the new year? would like to see that have a proper run out.

**Al115** · Wednesday 16th December 2009, 23:44

Originally Posted by jamest5r

See you on the 1/4 mile in the new year? would like to see that have a proper run out.

Absolutely, that's my plan! Slicks and a dry track please

**Al115** · Thursday 17th December 2009, 00:15

Just for interest (been doing some comparison surfing tonight) the car is hitting peak power about 1k rpm lower down the range than some of the bigger power-conversions... so that should mean that the power is much more accessible. That peak power is, of course, lower as the turbo is correspondingly smaller (to spool faster). Track time will tell which is faster in the real world, of course!

There's always the S2k for those rev-happy days

**T5ER** · Thursday 17th December 2009, 00:22

oh gotta love those hondas, i do, nice outcome Al on the T4 though very impressed

**siamblue** · Thursday 17th December 2009, 03:38

Originally Posted by Al115

€375 + Vat + the trip to the NL, to put it bluntly

That is an excellent price for a custom remap, Mine was done by Adam at HLM, so i am not sure what my car is running like as since i have replaced the exhaust and fitted and fitted a larger IC, If i went to Holland then i would have to hit the Ring as well

Gary

**Wobbly Dave** · Thursday 17th December 2009, 09:52

I am sorry Al that I missed the lift. Just got to Amsterdam Zuid when you texted me.

If you are about this part of Europe in the New Year then I will happily hook up with you.