Baffled by steering

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Well I'm not disputing that, but in all fairness, 'advising' someone to change this and that and 'if it doesn't respond' change something else, without first looking at the problem and getting a proper diagnosis as has been suggested by others, is cobblers.

If in doubt about getting a proper diagnosis, take it to someone who knows. There are plenty about. I'm sure many an unscrupulous garage will be quite happy to swap parts out until the problem goes away, but then there are many Volvo specialists who'll find what the problem is and advise on what needs to be changed, and only what needs to be changed.

More cobblers.

The most likely culprit is wishbones, followed by trackrod ends.

That you fail to recognize this as good advice doesn't say much for your knowledge of S80 steering and suspension.

That you go on to trash the advice of those who DO know, doesn't say much for your manners.

Remember : engage brain BEFORE opening mouth.

[v70torslanda]

You don't half talk some cobblers.

I DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS.

No! You do! <slap>

J

[T5ER]

More cobblers.

The most likely culprit is wishbones, followed by trackrod ends.

That you fail to recognize this as good advice doesn't say much for your knowledge of S80 steering and suspension.

That you go on to trash the advice of those who DO know, doesn't say much for your manners.

Remember : engage brain BEFORE opening mouth.

You are quiet correct about the knowledge of the S80 steering and suspension but as flash b has a V70 and not a S80 hence why

[But is it really a Volvo?]

You are quiet correct about the knowledge of the S80 steering and suspension but as flash b has a V70 and not a S80

V70 = S80 estate, for the uninitiated.

[PaulZX]

[me]

...get's popcorn, and thinks how cheap drop links are, compared to most other suspension bits, and thinks "that's where I'd start"

[/me]

[T5ER]

V70 = S80 estate, for the uninitiated.

really hmmmmmm was not like that when i worked for volvo strangely enough V70 = S70 estate for the p1 cars and V70 = S60 for the p2 cars, now surely would not miss-inform me as i worked for them and spent a lot of time at the daventry plant ?????????? no i did not think so

[mds]

Have you considered the simplest item Tyres? What condition are they in, are the pressures correct and are they the dreaded P6000 ?
Then get the suspension checked by a reputable garage if you cant or dont want to do it your self. Worn or failing wishbone bushes are a well known problem.

[cornclose]

More cobblers.

The most likely culprit is wishbones, followed by trackrod ends.

That you fail to recognize this as good advice doesn't say much for your knowledge of S80 steering and suspension.

That you go on to trash the advice of those who DO know, doesn't say much for your manners.

Remember : engage brain BEFORE opening mouth.

I disagree. . Is it really a Volvo you're on about? For a start, Flash B is talking of a V70 not an S80. I know they're practically identical, but hey, lets not split hairs.

You referred to someone 'talking cobblers'. You stated that directly after that someone stated Playing the game of "stick bits on till it works" is just a waste of cash. Go back and read it again if you don't believe me.

Fact: It is a waste of cash. Thus, you're talking cobblers! If you fail to recognise this then it doesn't say much about your knowledge of anything.

It may very well be wishbones. It may very well be track rod ends, that I am not disputing. It's the method you're suggesting I (and others) are at odds with.

Anyway, really can't be arsed with all this, Flash B, take your car to a respected specialist if you want a proper diagnosis. I don't know of any near you put I'm sure someone will.

If you want to throw money at it changing stuff until it works thats fine, I'm sure 'But is it really a Volvo?' will assist you to spend your hard earned.

And remember; engage brain BEFORE opening mouth.

[But is it really a Volvo?]

really hmmmmmm was not like that when i worked for volvo strangely enough V70 = S70 estate for the p1 cars and V70 = S60 for the p2 cars, now surely would not miss-inform me as i worked for them and spent a lot of time at the daventry plant ??????????

Wow!
You honestly think the V70 is an S60 estate ?

[T5ER]

Wow!
You honestly think the V70 is an S60 estate ?

so you are now questioning volvo ???????? fair enough i suggest then that you take that up with them, strange how the s60 and v70 share the same floor pan, running gear, engine, suspension and other parts and the S80 does not ????? S80 is longer than a V70 and wider so why make the saloon longer and wider than the estate ????? does not add up oh and not forgetting there are 2 versions of the S80 aswell

[But is it really a Volvo?]

I disagree. . Is it really a Volvo you're on about? For a start, Flash B is talking of a V70 not an S80. I know they're practically identical

Let's forget FlashB.
He thinks the V70 = S60 estate.

It may very well be wishbones. It may very well be track rod ends, that I am not disputing.

Is it just me or do I hear the sound of frenzied backpedalling ?

It's the method you're suggesting I (and others) are at odds with.

I got it!
You have special powers that allow you to psychically 'feel' when a wishbone is 'hurting'.

Anyway, really can't be arsed with all this, Flash B, take your car to a respected specialist if you want a proper diagnosis. I don't know of any near you put I'm sure someone will.

If you want to throw money at it changing stuff until it works thats fine, I'm sure 'But is it really a Volvo?' will assist you to spend your hard earned.

And remember; engage brain BEFORE opening mouth.

Oi! Make up your own insults.

[cornclose]

Let's forget FlashB.
He thinks the V70 = S60 estate.

No he doesn't. Read it all again.

Is it just me or do I hear the sound of frenzied backpedalling ?

It's just you. Read it all again.

I got it!
You have special powers that allow you to psychically 'feel' when a wishbone is 'hurting'.

No I don't. But you seem to think you have by making a definative diagnosis over an internet forum.



I rest my case.

[thebadger]

oh no i agree on having it diagnosed first, but i think he may find that he will need to replace some suspension items though

I won't dispute that point, but £70 per wishbone from J is the best start if you're going down the "throw cash at it till it dissapears" route.

9 times out of 10 it's a basic service item, droplinks being the usual "weak link" in the suspension system.

I'd save the cash, get it confirmed what's wrong & get that fixed first.

The suspension is an expensive area to start dropping lots of cash, it will snowball till you've replaced every part, only to find that it was something easy to sort like tyre sizes or wheel alignment.

Be smart & fix it from the diagnosis rather than guessing & hoping.

[cornclose]

I won't dispute that point, but £70 per wishbone from J is the best start if you're going down the "throw cash at it till it dissapears" route.

9 times out of 10 it's a basic service item, droplinks being the usual "weak link" in the suspension system.

I'd save the cash, get it confirmed what's wrong & get that fixed first.

The suspension is an expensive area to start dropping lots of cash, it will snowball till you've replaced every part, only to find that it was something easy to sort like tyre sizes or wheel alignment.

Be smart & fix it from the diagnosis rather than guessing & hoping.

You don't half talk sense.

[T5ER]

i am not saying replace if its not broken badger that as said is a waste of cash and time, it deffo needs to be checked over first as everybody bar one person has said

[T5ER]

plus i cant believe volvo have made a huge mistake myself by telling everybody inc all there garages and employee`s that the V70 P2 is the estate version of the S60 when clearly somebody else knows better that it is a S80 estate. damn i am now going to write to volvo and ask them what compensation i can have after being miss-lead by themselves for all these years

[cornclose]

Come on irf!!

[But is it really a Volvo?]

The OP wanted opinions on what it might be.
I told him what the most likely culprits are, which would make a useful starting point for inspection.
And if that along with wider inspection provides no further insight, then replacing the wishbones would be a good starting point.

Unfortunately however, t5 stealth doesn't quite understand that most people would take this as implicit - and starts a strawman argument about people replacing parts without bothering to inspect first.

[cornclose]

Unfortunately however, t5 stealth doesn't quite understand that most people would take this as implicit - and starts a strawman argument about people replacing parts without bothering to inspect first.

No he didn't!! Stop reading things into a situation which aren't there!

T5 Stealth's very first post on the matter was;

hi,
personally i would jack the car up & check the steering/suspension components to make sure theres no excessive movement,
then check for any leaks or unusual wear,if your not sure what your looking for then get it to your local garage to have it checked properly,dont take the chance with steering,its an important part of your fun.
juddering is usually bought on by belt slip,
check the condition of the belt,& all the small ribs in the belt.
when you say "it goes lite" do you meen after it judders,ie it goes back to normal lite steering or excessivly lite,
if its over lite then maybe a ps pump issue,faulty valve in the pump or rack.

Again I say, engage brain BEFORE opening mouth.

Apart from that, it's bordering on a sensible post.

[Justin]

Gentlemen please, i will have to ring the fire brigade at this rate.