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    Baffled by steering

    Hi all, New member to this Volvo lark. Just upgraded from a tiny Fiat Panda 100 hp to a beautiful V70 (170) and can't stop smiling. Easily the best car I've owned and is a dream to drive, however, I've noticed that whilst driving at a normal pace around the windy roads of Mid Wales, the steering seems to go very light and 'jerky' on corners. This seems to be an intermitent problem and makes me feel a bit worried. I've checked everything obvious and all seems tight. Anyone got any ideas???? Ive noticed the power steering fluid reservoir is full but has clearly had a previous leak from the pipes, which now seems clear.
    I need to sort this before I can do anything else.

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    hi,
    personally i would jack the car up & check the steering/suspension components to make sure theres no excessive movement,
    then check for any leaks or unusual wear,if your not sure what your looking for then get it to your local garage to have it checked properly,dont take the chance with steering,its an important part of your fun.
    juddering is usually bought on by belt slip,
    check the condition of the belt,& all the small ribs in the belt.
    when you say "it goes lite" do you meen after it judders,ie it goes back to normal lite steering or excessivly lite,
    if its over lite then maybe a ps pump issue,faulty valve in the pump or rack.

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    Thanks for that. I'll get the car up on ramps and have a more thorough look at her. The steering goes light when inputting steering at the apex of a bend and the judder (although slight) does make me a little nervous. It seems as if the power steering is working overtime. It can be resolved by more throttle, but I don't want to cover up a problem by just going faster - snowball effect!!!!

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    I'd change your wishbones and track-rod ends first.
    If it doesn't respond to that, then change all four shocks and your front strut top-mounts.
    This all assumes that your front tyres have no internal issues (not to be dismissed in this day of ubiquitous speed humps and poor road maintenance).

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    Quote Originally Posted by But is it really a Volvo? View Post
    I'd change your wishbones and track-rod ends first.
    If it doesn't respond to that, then change all four shocks and your front strut top-mounts.
    This all assumes that your front tyres have no internal issues (not to be dismissed in this day of ubiquitous speed humps and poor road maintenance).
    r u his bank manager ...cos u want him to spend a lot of cash there,
    personally i wldnt change any of that until im sure its at fault cos all those items are not cheap......not good advice me thinks.........
    at a guess id say your not a mechanic lol.......

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    3 things.

    1. Droplinks may be shot. This causes an audible knocking noise on bumps.

    2. Shocks/springs. Could be a leaky shock or an unseated spring.

    3. Lock stops/steering limiters. The V70 P2 (and S60s) can get full lock wheel arch rub. Check the inner front of the wheel arch (about 6-8" from the top of the arch in front of the strut) if the arch is shiny then you have it touching on full lock. This can be sorted with a set of new limiters (£8-12 each).


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    Quote Originally Posted by t5 stealth View Post
    r u his bank manager ...cos u want him to spend a lot of cash there,
    personally i wldnt change any of that until im sure its at fault cos all those items are not cheap......not good advice me thinks.........
    at a guess id say your not a mechanic lol.......
    Well, I've changed the clutch slave, timing belt and rocker cover gasket on this car, maintained more than 20 cars owned over 30 years during which time I've stripped and rebuilt heads and engines, and I have an Honours Mech. Engineering degree.

    So if that makes me no mechanic, I'm not sure what it makes you LOL

    .... but I have my own ideas.

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    I'd check the drop links & arches first. If it only happens in highspeed bends & it's a slight "movement" then that would be the ARB (droplinks), but if it's a bit of vibration & a light feeling at lock, then the wheel is touching the arches.

    What size of tyres are you on?

    Should be 225/xx/xx w/x/y to allow space.


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    Quote Originally Posted by But is it really a Volvo? View Post
    Well, I've changed the clutch slave, timing belt and rocker cover gasket on this car, maintained more than 20 cars owned over 30 years during which time I've stripped and rebuilt heads and engines, and I have an Honours Mech. Engineering degree.

    So if that makes me no mechanic, I'm not sure what it makes you LOL

    .... but I have my own ideas.
    lol is that all.....................

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    I think advising to change out everything before diagnosis more than qualifies him as a mechanic.

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    My mechanic is multi talented!

    He can scratch his ass & make up huge prices at the same time!

    Just kidding, my spanners is a star & always quotes me before he starts with parts!

    Check the couple of areas I've mentioned first, then think about a garage visit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baj View Post
    I think advising to change out everything before diagnosis more than qualifies him as a mechanic.
    For a major 'fast fit'? ???

    The 'shotgun' method, not my way of fixing cars but then I've been supplying bits, quite successfully, for nearly 30 years.

    I'm a big fan of 'find out what the problem is first'.

    I'm also a big fan of 'you asked for it and it's exactly what you asked for, exactly what is it that makes this the wrong part?'

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    Playing the game of "stick bits on till it works" is just a waste of cash.

    Quality parts by J tho!


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    drop links have to be the starting point... fairly easy and not dead expensive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebadger View Post
    Playing the game of "stick bits on till it works" is just a waste of cash.
    You don't half talk some cobblers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by But is it really a Volvo? View Post
    You don't half talk some cobblers.
    Well, it is a waste of cash. It may get you the desired result, but you'll waste some cash in the process usually. So it isn't cobblers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cornclose View Post
    Well, it is a waste of cash. It may get you the desired result, but you'll waste some cash in the process usually. So it isn't cobblers!
    lol but in all defence the 3 volvos i have had (plus no doubt hundreds more) could do with wishbones arb bushes droplinks and track rods changing on them as most do or suffer from minor to major steering issues. As for the shocks would personally do the bounce test first to make sure there ok before replacing


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    Quote Originally Posted by cornclose View Post
    Well, it is a waste of cash. It may get you the desired result, but you'll waste some cash in the process usually. So it isn't cobblers!
    I disagree.

    A wishbone can LOOK fine - but like many steering and suspension components, can't be meaningfully tested other than by comparison with a replacement.

    That's why he's talking cobblers (along with anyone who agrees with him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by T5ER View Post
    the 3 volvos i have had (plus no doubt hundreds more) could do with wishbones arb bushes droplinks and track rods changing on them as most do or suffer from minor to major steering issues.
    Well I'm not disputing that, but in all fairness, 'advising' someone to change this and that and 'if it doesn't respond' change something else, without first looking at the problem and getting a proper diagnosis as has been suggested by others, is cobblers.

    If in doubt about getting a proper diagnosis, take it to someone who knows. There are plenty about. I'm sure many an unscrupulous garage will be quite happy to swap parts out until the problem goes away, but then there are many Volvo specialists who'll find what the problem is and advise on what needs to be changed, and only what needs to be changed.
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    oh no i agree on having it diagnosed first, but i think he may find that he will need to replace some suspension items though


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