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    Bye bye clutch

    I have a M reg (94?) 850 T5 estate. My clutch is going, I want to get a new one this week. I am looking to get 350bhp/500Nm or abouts sometime soon, so puting another standard clutch makes no sense. What can people suggest, was thinking of the Spec so122 stage 2; can anyone confirm that it fits?, but cant seem to find a uk supplier. HELP!! looking at about £450. sachs and other companies are really dificult to find compatability confirmation.

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    The R clutch is a good upgrade and you can get a good price from RUFE, if however you want something better why not speak to Russ at RT, IIRC he's using a paddle clutch on his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T5n00b View Post
    I have a M reg (94?) 850 T5 estate. My clutch is going, I want to get a new one this week. I am looking to get 350bhp/500Nm or abouts sometime soon, so puting another standard clutch makes no sense. What can people suggest, was thinking of the Spec so122 stage 2; can anyone confirm that it fits?, but cant seem to find a uk supplier. HELP!! looking at about £450. sachs and other companies are really dificult to find compatability confirmation.
    If you are worried about spending £450 on a clutch then I do think you need to have a sense check on what kindof money you will need to spend to hit 350bhp and on top of that, the upgraded brake work etc..you will need too.

    Russ is you first port of call agree with TC.

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    Im not worried about the pennies really, but I know if im even going to think about power upgrades, however delusional, clutch is a reasonable start, and seeing as its going anyway just thought a figure of 350ish as the dream. Even if i dont get to that then at least im prepped to not mince a clutch if I were to.
    Im just looking to get ideas. preferably exact part numbers and suppliers. The problem I found with the Spec clutches is that it just seems to be the US that has them and you are looking at $200 shipping! how do i get hold of russ?
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    I'm running a Spec clutch on my T4. Works well, bites quite sharply though!!!
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    I'm using an 850R clutch in my S70. The car was dyno'd at 314bhp & 375lb/ft last year. When the car was originally remapped, the standard clutch started slipping, the 850R clutch is fine.

    The car will be going in for a few more upgrades soon, and should be kicking around the 350bhp mark. I'm hoping the 850R clutch will hold. If not, Helix do an 'uprated' organic clutch, which should do the job, roughly about £500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T5n00b View Post
    I have a M reg (94?) 850 T5 estate. My clutch is going, I want to get a new one this week. I am looking to get 350bhp/500Nm or abouts sometime soon, so puting another standard clutch makes no sense. What can people suggest, was thinking of the Spec so122 stage 2; can anyone confirm that it fits?, but cant seem to find a uk supplier. HELP!! looking at about £450. sachs and other companies are really dificult to find compatability confirmation.
    Hi T5Noob

    Thought i might be able to help Helix clutchs are very good quality it pays to get the right clutch in place before you go tuning the car to far there nothing more annoying then getting some power then the clutch lets go,the 850R clutch is quite a good mod unless your going for the higher numbers

    I have no experience of the spec clutchs but a quick ask on the usa forums will find a very mixed bag of results with the spec ones.

    Just for info i run a Helix full paddle in my 850 and have so far got the hp to 591 and the torque to 524 ftlbs which exceeds the limits of the paddle by 100 ftlbs so far so good.......

    Good luck with your car if you need any help or advise please call me 01428 648648

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    Quote Originally Posted by RT MECHANICS View Post
    Hi T5Noob

    Thought i might be able to help Helix clutchs are very good quality it pays to get the right clutch in place before you go tuning the car to far there nothing more annoying then getting some power then the clutch lets go,the 850R clutch is quite a good mod unless your going for the higher numbers

    I have no experience of the spec clutchs but a quick ask on the usa forums will find a very mixed bag of results with the spec ones.

    Just for info i run a Helix full paddle in my 850 and have so far got the hp to 591 and the torque to 524 ftlbs which exceeds the limits of the paddle by 100 ftlbs so far so good.......

    Good luck with your car if you need any help or advise please call me 01428 648648

    Russ

    How far is too far for an 850R clutch Russ?
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    im running a 850r clutch on my car with a gt30 on guess it was running about 380bhp before i took it off the road, but i have the uprated sach racing cover plate (the springy looking thingy) not once has it slipped ive been on a track day and 1/4 mile ing, ive run the turbo at over 2 bar at 1 point, no slippage, bitting point is the same as driving a standard t5, but the peddal is a little stiffer, as the engine and box is out if your interested i could take the part number off it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spesh View Post
    im running a 850r clutch on my car with a gt30 on guess it was running about 380bhp before i took it off the road, but i have the uprated sach racing cover plate (the springy looking thingy) not once has it slipped ive been on a track day and 1/4 mile ing, ive run the turbo at over 2 bar at 1 point, no slippage, bitting point is the same as driving a standard t5, but the peddal is a little stiffer, as the engine and box is out if your interested i could take the part number off it.
    Hi Spesh

    Thats interesting what torque did it make ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spesh View Post
    im running a 850r clutch on my car with a gt30 on guess it was running about 380bhp before i took it off the road, but i have the uprated sach racing cover plate (the springy looking thingy) not once has it slipped ive been on a track day and 1/4 mile ing, ive run the turbo at over 2 bar at 1 point, no slippage, bitting point is the same as driving a standard t5, but the peddal is a little stiffer, as the engine and box is out if your interested i could take the part number off it.
    I'd be interested in the part number for the sachs cover plate, just for future reference! ta muchly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RT MECHANICS View Post
    Hi Spesh

    Thats interesting what torque did it make ?

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    How far is too far for an 850R clutch Russ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by S70T5Chris View Post
    I'm using an 850R clutch in my S70. The car was dyno'd at 314bhp & 375lb/ft last year. When the car was originally remapped, the standard clutch started slipping, the 850R clutch is fine.

    The car will be going in for a few more upgrades soon, and should be kicking around the 350bhp mark. I'm hoping the 850R clutch will hold. If not, Helix do an 'uprated' organic clutch, which should do the job, roughly about £500.
    what spec are you using to get 314bhp

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    Quote Originally Posted by leet5r View Post
    what spec are you using to get 314bhp
    Ported P2 16T, Ferrita 3" downpipe/race cat, Miltek cat-back, green injectors, bigger throttle body, Ported ME7 Manifold, Alloy Intercooler, Reverse Flow Pipework, BSR Optiflow Induction Kit, Custom MTE Map.

    The run was done last year in November, and it was bloody cold out. I ran my T4 at the same time, and then again a few months later on a different RR, and it came out exactly the same. So it's gotta be a reasonably accurate figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S70T5Chris View Post
    Ported P2 16T, Ferrita 3" downpipe/race cat, Miltek cat-back, green injectors, bigger throttle body, Ported ME7 Manifold, Alloy Intercooler, Reverse Flow Pipework, BSR Optiflow Induction Kit, Custom MTE Map.

    The run was done last year in November, and it was bloody cold out. I ran my T4 at the same time, and then again a few months later on a different RR, and it came out exactly the same. So it's gotta be a reasonably accurate figure.
    cheers pal i dont seem to be able to find any bits for mine lol you got anything lying about for sale

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    Quote Originally Posted by leet5r View Post
    cheers pal i dont seem to be able to find any bits for mine lol you got anything lying about for sale
    What you after!? I've got a KKK24 ready to go on shortly, so my turbo will be available soon. I also have a pre-me7 16t (straight flange) from a c70 lying around and a standard downpipe to fit it, white injectors, uuuumm..... can't think of anything else at the mo!
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    you not got a gt47r lol . i dont want to go daft just yet as am out of work lol . but would like a proper 300bhp like so what every bits a need lol have you done the con rods on yours m8.cheers

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    The car is going in for more work very soon. New bits to fit are K24, Forged Rods, Ported/Flowed Cylinder Head, NA Cams, Water Injection, Few other bits and Bobs.

    I know where there is a 19t with a rica remapped ecu (bosch 4.3) for sale, with a suitable downpipe and some better breathing mods that should see 300bhp comfortably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S70T5Chris View Post
    The car is going in for more work very soon. New bits to fit are K24, Forged Rods, Ported/Flowed Cylinder Head, NA Cams, Water Injection, Few other bits and Bobs.

    I know where there is a 19t with a rica remapped ecu (bosch 4.3) for sale, with a suitable downpipe and some better breathing mods that should see 300bhp comfortably.
    sounds good m8 , how much is the 19t and map like m8


 

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