rica or bsr

[pjaystar]

i wish i did not ask its all a bit much. why did we all join ? cos we all have volvo and its good to get every ones opinion we should not be having handbags at ten

[Tomcat]

Appologies for your thread going "Waaaay" off topic, saldy this is an age old arguement and as such it will always cause controversy and fights.

[Justin]

How is it out of order? The guy has a problem with something on T5D5, why is he asking me to address it? He logs onto the site all the time, yet he tries to maintain that he's banned and can't post! He's spineless more like.

I haven't condoned any copyrighted material on T5D5, so how am I a hypocrit?

Where was I picking holes in VPC?

Chris stop being a victim.

Forum rules state no abuse language towards another member, piss off is included, thats where your liability ends.

I didnt call you a hypocrit.

Did i say specifically you?

Read my post again

[pjaystar]

flatout phil yes that is my R with my seat in the background

[irf]

pjaystar, there's not much difference between any of the off the shelf stage 1 maps. if you want to mod further an MTE map is what i'd recommend as it can be quite easily be accommodated.

partsforvolvosonline sell some IPD stuff, got my anti roll bars from them.

exhaust, you can try Don at kalmar union who also handles MTE software in the UK. think he sells his ferrita catback exhausts for about £3-320

[Flatout Phil]

flatout phil yes that is my R with my seat in the background

FANTASTIC! Another London R. Auto or dare I ask manual? Rare breed - so good to hear someone not THAT far away. I'm in SE9. More pics of mine on my albums.

[Flatout Phil]

What Seat is it? Only got my netbook tonight so miniscule screen. I hankered after a Leon Cupra R in Ovni Yellow for quite a while.

[pjaystar]

mine is a manual got it one month ago one owner full s/h got the orginal bil of sale she needs a little bit of work then i will add more pics

[S70T5Chris]

Chris stop being a victim.

Forum rules state no abuse language towards another member, piss off is included, thats where your liability ends.

I didnt call you a hypocrit.

Did i say specifically you?

Read my post again

You did call me a hypocrit 'pot calling kettle...' is what that implies.

My humbelist appologies for telling Pedro to piss off, I feel absolutely ashamed of myself, and express my deepest regret to anyone that was offended in my telling Pedrofandabydosey to PISS OFF.

I'm not being a victim. I appreciate that you are taking a look at what has been said with regards to unauthorised copies of RICA software from HLM, and would like to see more info on it.

But i'm getting more and more pissed off with people pushing that £££££ from HLM just because it's cheap. It's cheap for a reason. The last thing a MOD on this forum should be doing is advertising pirated software.

[pjaystar]

its a arosa lol i use it for work the volvo is my kids taxi

[Justin]

You did call me a hypocrit 'pot calling kettle...' is what that implies.

My humbelist appologies for telling Pedro to piss off, I feel absolutely ashamed of myself, and express my deepest regret to anyone that was offended in my telling Pedrofandabydosey to PISS OFF.

I'm not being a victim. I appreciate that you are taking a look at what has been said with regards to unauthorised copies of RICA software from HLM, and would like to see more info on it.

But i'm getting more and more pissed off with people pushing that £££££ from HLM just because it's cheap. It's cheap for a reason. The last thing a MOD on this forum should be doing is advertising pirated software.

It wasnt directed at YOU, it was a general statement, final warning for your language!

[Flatout Phil]

its a arosa lol i use it for work the volvo is my kids taxi

Arosa, yes we had one of those for about ten years - only car we ever bought new: black 1.4MPI - a great little motor - sold it to my brother and it is still going great. My view on chipping, well, I think you generally get what you pay for - mine is RICA but there are other ways of doing it. I must tell you that the difference between a standard car and a chipped one is startling. I was astonished. My manual T5 that had always seemed extremely rapid suddenly felt like a slug when I got the R (which is nominally 35bhp up on the original build T5) with a RICA. The performance is BREATHTAKING especially in the mid-range. You are welcome to drop down for a quick ride if you want to experience it. Previous owner did great job of sorting the car with help from RT Mechanics - the only minor things I have done are to fit larger front brakes and seven seats: essential with the kids.

[storming]

If HLM are selling the RICA Chips that they brought from RICA when they were an agent for them, do they not have a right to sell of there remaining stock they Paid for?
I may like to add that if they were using Pirated chips then Rica would have called the Police?

[Redbrick]

BSR PPC is only supported for two years:

http://en.bsr.se/support-agreement/

Who can sign the BSR support agreement?
We offer the support agreement to all customers that buy, or already have bought, PPC Tuning System. The support agreement is included in the price and free of charge for two years from the time of buying. After that we offer you to renew the agreement one year at a time, costing 600SEK/year. The agreement is affiliated with the car. When exchanging car the agreement is transferred to the new owner.


So if after two years you get a new software update from Volvo and have to send your file off to BSR via the PPC its going to cost you £50


Edit: not sure if you can get a PPC for the 850's? Probably just a flash or new chip on them, so ignore the above.

[Tomcat]

The last thing a MOD on this forum should be doing is advertising pirated software.

As mentioned previously (If you'd bothered to read my reply), I am not aware of any email from RICA and therefore can't really have the opinion that this is as you put it 'Pirated software', I can only go on what I was told.

Enough of the swearing please.

[S70T5Chris]

As mentioned previously (If you'd bothered to read my reply), I am not aware of any email from RICA and therefore can't really have the opinion that this is as you put it 'Pirated software', I can only go on what I was told.

Enough of the swearing please.

It's been mentioned on this forum previously, you know it has. So playing the 'playing dumb' card doesn't wash with me i'm affraid.

Justin has already warned me for my terrible language, so there's no need for you to re-iterate, thanks Tomcat.

[Tomcat]

?????. Why the hell do you have such a crap attitude?, do you have a problem with me?, I merely stated that I have seen no mention previously of this email, if I'm wrong then please point it out, I do have a shockingly crap memory so it is possible that I've forgotten about it. If coming on this forum is such an ordeal that you feel the need to bite off everyone's head that has a different opinion to you then please don't bother.

[S70T5Chris]

If HLM are selling the RICA Chips that they brought from RICA when they were an agent for them, do they not have a right to sell of there remaining stock they Paid for?
I may like to add that if they were using Pirated chips then Rica would have called the Police?

It doesn't work like that. They would pay for the license on remaps they sold. Not buy up hundreds of remaps, have them in stock and then sell them on!

RICA are based in the netherlands. As to why they haven't taken any action I do not know. Perhaps as they are so far away? But the longer this goes on, the more fuss is going to be kicked up about it.

Adam's reading this thread as I write this. Come on Adam, can you comment at all? What do you think? Am I right or wrong?

[S70T5Chris]

?????. Why the hell do you have such a crap attitude?, do you have a problem with me?, I merely stated that I have seen no mention previously of this email, if I'm wrong then please point it out, I do have a shockingly crap memory so it is possible that I've forgotten about it. If coming on this forum is such an ordeal that you feel the need to bite off everyone's head that has a different opinion to you then please don't bother.

It's not that I have a problem with you personally. It's not that I have a different opinion to you or anyone else.

I don't care one bit of someone has RICA, BSR, Superchip, MTE, Upsolute, or whatever remap Tom. But I do care that HLM are selling knocked off maps at a super cheap price for their own gain, at the expense of all the other tuners out there. As I said before, it's piracey, no different than any other.

[Tomcat]

That's fine, as I've said previously if I thought for one minute that it was illegal then I would certainly not be mentioning it.