Advice for a friend...

**The Flying Moose** · Tuesday 6th October 2009, 19:26

Well here is the story, a mate of mine has recently purchased a V70 but its not the T5 its a 2004 2.4 140 as he simply couldnt afford a T5.

Now he isnt dissapointed but would like abit more power, what are his options as to be honest I havnt a clue as its something ive never really poked about with.

All suggestions appreciated but on a really tight budget he says but cant spend a fortune.

Cheers folks!

**p fandango** · Tuesday 6th October 2009, 19:51

being such a modern model i'd say to go with a remap, if he wants to go any more itwould have to be an exhaust & filter

**The Flying Moose** · Tuesday 6th October 2009, 22:09

Originally Posted by p fandango

being such a modern model i'd say to go with a remap, if he wants to go any more itwould have to be an exhaust & filter

Can you remap non turbo's? Didnt know you could, exhaust and filter I suppose are the obvious choices, seen a few "turbo's" and "superchargers" but personally I dont think they will be a worthy investment.

**p fandango** · Tuesday 6th October 2009, 22:17

Originally Posted by V70ETS

Can you remap non turbo's? Didnt know you could

LINK

exhaust and filter I suppose are the obvious choices, seen a few "turbo's" and "superchargers" but personally I dont think they will be a worthy investment.

no for the price i'd of thought you pay for big hardware conversions like turbo's & charger's you might as well of gone for the T-5 in the first place

**Vikingxl** · Tuesday 6th October 2009, 22:18

Im with the ped sell it and buy a t5

**volvoturboman** · Wednesday 7th October 2009, 01:13

Its virtually the same engine as my 97 V70 and apparently a remap can take it to 190 brake, I intend to get one in the new year.

**smithy** · Wednesday 7th October 2009, 14:45

Originally Posted by V70ETS

Well here is the story, a mate of mine has recently purchased a V70 but its not the T5 its a 2004 2.4 140 as he simply couldnt afford a T5.

Now he isnt dissapointed but would like abit more power, what are his options as to be honest I havnt a clue as its something ive never really poked about with.

All suggestions appreciated but on a really tight budget he says but cant spend a fortune.

Cheers folks!

from what i remember i think you can up the power to 170 bhp with a basic map speak to hamish at hlm

**The Flying Moose** · Wednesday 7th October 2009, 21:18

Could this be fitted to the engine???

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLVO-2-3-T5-2...d=p3286.c0.m14

**The Flying Moose** · Wednesday 7th October 2009, 21:19

Could this be fitted to the engine???

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLVO-2-3-T5-2...d=p3286.c0.m14

**MrMopp** · Wednesday 7th October 2009, 21:28

Originally Posted by V70ETS

Could this be fitted to the engine???

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLVO-2-3-T5-2...d=p3286.c0.m14

Not as simple as that mate , like viking and pedro have said aside from a remap which for the gains is throwing money away , bin it and get an older T5

**daveforber** · Wednesday 7th October 2009, 21:45

Can't answer that - I know they made a 2.4T, but I wouldn't be surprised if the manifold was different between the two models. Add to that that what's shown is minus pipework, intercooler, tune and other parts that may be necessary (e.g. fuel pump, boost control, injectors, possibly engine internals & cooling) and I think a T5 or 2.4T may have been cheaper...

If an off the shelf remap will give +30bhp, which is damned impressive on a N/A car, it's the most convenient route, and 30bhp is something you *will* notice! A 2.4 140bhp takes 10.5 seconds to 60mph, a 2.4 170bhp in the same car takes 1.5 seconds less -- which is a lot of seconds.

**Jimmie** · Wednesday 7th October 2009, 21:47

At least he will have saved some money by NOT getting a T5 due to the increase in road tax?.

**dave stew** · Wednesday 7th October 2009, 22:14

I thought this 'advice for a friend' was about premature ejaculation or only being able to drink two pints...

**dave stew** · Wednesday 7th October 2009, 22:15

But enough about me...

**The Flying Moose** · Thursday 8th October 2009, 20:54

Can't answer that - I know they made a 2.4T, but I wouldn't be surprised if the manifold was different between the two models. Add to that that what's shown is minus pipework, intercooler, tune and other parts that may be necessary (e.g. fuel pump, boost control, injectors, possibly engine internals & cooling) and I think a T5 or 2.4T may have been cheaper...

If an off the shelf remap will give +30bhp, which is damned impressive on a N/A car, it's the most convenient route, and 30bhp is something you *will* notice! A 2.4 140bhp takes 10.5 seconds to 60mph, a 2.4 170bhp in the same car takes 1.5 seconds less -- which is a lot of seconds.

Agreed 30+ bhp on a N/A car is impressive, I asked today why he didnt just buy the 170 but when you see the condition its in and from what he says the price he got its pretty damn good.

At least he will have saved some money by NOT getting a T5 due to the increase in road tax?.

I think its slightly cheaper but not much I know the T5 costs me £240 ish as I just renewed it!

I thought this 'advice for a friend' was about premature ejaculation or only being able to drink two pints...

I just broke up laughing haha! Not advice id want to give anyone........

**woz** · Friday 9th October 2009, 01:46

yeh just renewed mine - think it was ony £190, but forget to stick the disc in and today some retentive in a uniform gave me a ticket. £50 for failing to display a disc on the 8th of the f..ing month.
Bah. BAaaah baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

**lance** · Friday 9th October 2009, 10:17

Try driving a 170 to see if its enough, if not sell and buy a D5 and chip or a 2.4 t or T5!

**LeeT5** · Friday 9th October 2009, 22:11

Make sure he does a 'Stage 0' before remap. Otherwise he won't get the best out of it.

**timbo_1975** · Saturday 10th October 2009, 10:36

Originally Posted by V70ETS

Well here is the story, a mate of mine has recently purchased a V70 but its not the T5 its a 2004 2.4 140 as he simply couldnt afford a T5.

Now he isnt dissapointed but would like abit more power, what are his options as to be honest I havnt a clue as its something ive never really poked about with.

All suggestions appreciated but on a really tight budget he says but cant spend a fortune.

Cheers folks!

As this is the PII 2.4 - i.e. the 20v vvt engine. Both the 140 and 170 engines themselves are EXACTLY the same, just the software is different. If you look at the torque curves for both, you'll see they are almost the same.

The 140 motor peaks at something like 4900rpm, and the 170 keeps going to 5800rpm. Think of it akin to a slack throttle cable!

Anyhow, certainly superchips or any of the volvo tuners will either update the map to 170 spec, or abit better for not too much ££.

Tim..

**readview** · Saturday 10th October 2009, 10:43

Agreeing with Tim on this one,remap is the only option really,anything else is just not cost effective,the turbo fitting idea is not on the cards at all but a bit of "electrical tuning" makes good sense.
Adam.

Originally Posted by timbo_1975

As this is the PII 2.4 - i.e. the 20v vvt engine. Both the 140 and 170 engines themselves are EXACTLY the same, just the software is different. If you look at the torque curves for both, you'll see they are almost the same.

The 140 motor peaks at something like 4900rpm, and the 170 keeps going to 5800rpm. Think of it akin to a slack throttle cable!

Anyhow, certainly superchips or any of the volvo tuners will either update the map to 170 spec, or abit better for not too much ££.

Tim..