new turbo... which one?

**S70T5Chris** · Friday 15th May 2009, 21:19

In short....I am going Garrett so I will beat a 19T and 16T

Bitch!

**Enigma666** · Friday 15th May 2009, 21:21

Originally Posted by S70T5Chris

Bitch!

Yes, yes I am

**volvolised** · Friday 15th May 2009, 21:22

This is from the website of the guys that sell the 19T as per petes linky (first page)　 DESCRIPTION
．Brand new VOLVO 850 / S70 / T5 TD04HL-19T-6 Turbocharger
．It can upgrade and bolt on 850 / S70 with 13G and 16T turbo directly.
　　．JAW upgrades original 16T (49189-01450) to 19T turbo to make it more Power.

SPECIFICATIONS :
MHI Part Number on Plate: 49189-01450
Model: TD04HL-19T-6

Cooling: Water-cooled
Applicable to 2L or 2.3L Engine

This 19T turbo helps you gain 10~15 more HP than original 16T turbo. If your turbo is 850 T5 with 15G turbo, that means it has the same turbine flange to exhaust manifold but different flange to downpipe and it needs to be modified.

ooooh !! 10 bhp lol, believe me though, two almost identicaly modded cars apart from one 16T, one 19T and yes thats it about 10bhp.... cars (mine an chris's)... I understand the orginal posters question, reason i put 16t instead of 19t or kkk (better than the 19T, opens another can of worms) was the difference in money would bring on better accompanying mods which would make the car so much better and YES one major mod in my OPINION would be a remap.....I think its great people try things but who is going to be the pioneer that loses everything for the sake of knowledge....will it work properly wont it.....chris was a very bad example of the VT hybrid F**K up...he moved on and found a better path....but it cost him...

**jer,c70** · Saturday 16th May 2009, 14:50

thanx every one great advise all round
im gona buy a nice new t19 when i get paid and the exhust is coming in on thursday,
the map will have to wate till i get paid again after that.
oh and as far as stoping is concerned i have put on ebc drilled and groved discs all round with a good set of padds and changed the fluid for 5.1 and stops on a 2p peace.
a sett of coil overs and a good set of braces are on the list but i have to wate till ive got a bit more chedder ;-)
thanx everyone
And a big thanx to t5pete & wobbley dave for the good link and the tec details !!!!

and big thanx to t5pete

**S70T5Chris** · Saturday 16th May 2009, 17:47

Originally Posted by jer,c70

thanx every one great advise all round
im gona buy a nice new t19 when i get paid and the exhust is coming in on thursday,
the map will have to wate till i get paid again after that.
oh and as far as stoping is concerned i have put on ebc drilled and groved discs all round with a good set of padds and changed the fluid for 5.1 and stops on a 2p peace.
a sett of coil overs and a good set of braces are on the list but i have to wate till ive got a bit more chedder ;-)
thanx everyone
And a big thanx to t5pete & wobbley dave for the good link and the tec details !!!!

and big thanx to t5pete

Good luck with what ever route you take. But I think you'll find on an ME7 car
you can't just bolt a different turbo on and off you go. You will need a remap to suit.

**Wombatbomb** · Saturday 16th May 2009, 17:58

Originally Posted by s70t5chris

good luck with what ever route you take. But i think you'll find on an me7 car
you can't just bolt a different turbo on and off you go. You will need a remap to suit.

+1.

**jer,c70** · Tuesday 2nd June 2009, 20:28

ummm ok was gona buy a turbo today but now i dont no what to do? if i get a t19 will she still run? or will it be the same as the t16 till i get a remap?
the exhust is done ....... What a difernece! i have gone from 5 psi to 12 at full throttle she fells like a different car
But at 4500 rpm in 5th gear she drops all her boost for a second or two and it wont let me go any quicker..... i guess this is the ecu cutting in because it should only boost to 8 ish psi on a standered map but i could be wrong (am i ?)
so anyway can i put a t19 on my c70 gt t5 (2.5 me7) without having to remap strate away, or mod at all????????????????????

**Enigma666** · Tuesday 2nd June 2009, 20:56

Quick answer....NO.....it wont per say go bang, but a 19T will need larger injectors for a start and therefore a remap....welcome to the expensive world of upgrading

**Wobbly Dave** · Wednesday 3rd June 2009, 10:33

I ran an unmapped 19T on my silver C70 for a little while before tuning. Whilst you don't see the power I very much doubt you will have any issues. I run the original blue injectors on mine and have no issues with the AFR (and yes I did get them cleaned and a couple replaced)

**Enigma666** · Wednesday 3rd June 2009, 10:40

Pre ME7 Wobbly or ME7?

**jer,c70** · Thursday 4th June 2009, 23:38

if i buy a ppc from bsr first can i map it myself to suit the mods as and when they go on? like the 4.5 inch down pipe an sports cat she now has, then the turbo and injecters etc when i can affored them?

**Wobbly Dave** · Friday 5th June 2009, 12:24

Originally Posted by Enigma666

Pre ME7 Wobbly or ME7?

Mine is ME7

**Enigma666** · Friday 5th June 2009, 12:26

I'm shocked the ME7 didn't throw a fit with larger injectors and 19T.....guess that is a testament to the ability of the ECU

Jer....the ppc only allows you to flash pre-written code onto the ECU, this would require custom maps to be written so basically you are unlikely to be able to unless you pay BSR to write a custom map for you each time.

**Wobbly Dave** · Friday 5th June 2009, 12:29

The ME7 comes with those injectors. I never uprated them. It was not deemed necessary.

**benep** · Monday 15th June 2009, 17:20

All depends what your after and what sort of running costs are acceptable to you!
When changing things like downpipes and turbos etc it never hurts to upgrade ecu or remap, even if to get the car fuelling right and stopping it deting its self to destruction lol

**Wobbly Dave** · Tuesday 16th June 2009, 15:31

I lost the powergrahs in the Great VPCUK crash of 2008 - (and I had over 10,000 posts)

So here is what happened to my C70 in Jan 2008 (on the dyno). This is a custom remapped 19T with feritta race D/P and a 3" miltec.

Max boost is about 1.2 bar. Makes a solid 300 at the crank.

This is just for example - because I have had more work done since, including new/recon injectors, MAF and further adjustments to the remap.

**Babybadger** · Tuesday 16th June 2009, 16:18

Originally Posted by jer,c70

As i need a new turbo for my c70 me7, i want to up grade....
Which one is the best to buy ( not for silly money). and ware from?
Dose any one have any ideas?

oh dose any one no if my car will run without the cat? as i want to get rid of it when the stainless goes on next weekend,will it go in to limp mode or throw up lights on the dash? or is it best to put on a sport cat?

Is yours auto or manual? Auto I would stick with smaller turbo for maximum torque low down , as there will be too much lag and the autobox will loose the topend power. Manual , now I would go all the way.... 19T.....at least it will be useable power.....