rica remap need some feedback please

[t5 pete]

If you dont want to travel you can send your ecu to hamish and he will do the rica and send it back to you

[Cali-T5]

**makes a mental note to "attempt" to randomly pop down for a go in the Rica Mobile** lol

more the merrier.

[flyingbrick]

Thats good to know.
Thanks Pete....

[flyingbrick]

more the merrier.

Wot have we started..

[Jod T5]

If you dont want to travel you can send your ecu to hamish and he will do the rica and send it back to you

Thats great news....
As you appear to be up on things, how exactly is the map installed onto the ECM..?




Cheers
Jod

[Justin]

Thats great news....
As you appear to be up on things, how exactly is the map installed onto the ECM..?




Cheers
Jod

No offence Jod, but this appears a little heavy. I'm sure you know how the ecu is programmed, why the need to ask????

[Jod T5]

No offence Jod, but this appears a little heavy. I'm sure you know how the ecu is programmed, why the need to ask????

LOL.., Hi Justin,
None taken....
Yes I know that you know that I know how they are programmed....
It was a rhetorical question really......Just a personal interest call it....

This Guy who claims 275 WHP, i mean C'mon....

Ive had my rant, ill shut up now....

Cheers
Jod

[Justin]

I thought as much.

No need to shut up, i understand the questioning, it was the way it was delivered

[chriskay]

Thanks for that but thats quite for away from me. Would cost about a ton in juice.

215 miles round trip @ say 25MPG. About £40 I reckon.
Oh, and you're getting it done by someone who really knows his stuff.

Cheers, Chris.

[Cali-T5]

Nice to meet you today Mark.

Lovely car you got. You have to keep it and get it chipped.

[t5 pete]

LOL.., Hi Justin,
None taken....
Yes I know that you know that I know how they are programmed....
It was a rhetorical question really......Just a personal interest call it....

This Guy who claims 275 WHP, i mean C'mon....

Ive had my rant, ill shut up now....

Cheers
Jod

Hello whos the guy that has claimed 275 whp if your thinking its me you should get your facts rite and read the posts i have never stated that and it was some one else called big pete not t5 pete so i think its time you go to specsavers also its done by a chip being removed and the rica one soldered onto the ecu but i geuss you allready know this dont you
cheers pete

[flyingbrick]

Nice to meet you today Mark.

Lovely car you got. You have to keep it and get it chipped.

Thanks for that mate.
Nice meeting you by the way.

[Big Pete]

What a Gem thread...
Charts Please.....!!!!!!!


You have got to be joking..Hamish has posted on this very forum that anything other than super is inappropriate...HE ALLOWED YOU TO R/R ON HIS EQUIPMENT KNOWING YOU WERE RUNNING PREMIUM?....PMSL...Quality....


Engine cut at 4k?...eh ......?...

Big Pete, do you have any idea what you are talking about?...

I think you are in cloud cuckoo land.....

The "origional" RICA was a great chip but realistically no 14 year old car will ever reach its claims of 304 brake, to think it will is naive...

As i said before Charts Please....

Cheers
Jod

All I am going to say is surely we are all on here to help each other, and not to go off on one another.

Yes, I'm not greatly mechanically minded so I did explained the problem I had with the engine haulting and not giving me power when booting it to a friend who I work with who used to own and race a Toyata MR2 Turbo and he knew exactly the problem I had and explained it to me and said I just needed to run higher octane. All seems fine with 97, but then Hamish said that was what it needed min so.........

I had 95 octaine in it and while he was doing the Rolling Road I mentioned that. He wasn't happy and just said it needed 97 octaine min to perform correctly etc etc. He had no choice as it was now on the Rolling Road, and I had only owned the car 1.5 weeks, and the previous owner said he just used 95 so I did the same as I only had filled it up once since I got it.

I take it I am reading the chart correctly?

I see on the BSR website for the 850R they do just a remap and that says 300hp and BSR are generally a very good manufacturer from what my best friend who now lives in Sweden and works for Volvo Trucks says. He said a lot of his Swedish Volvo colleagues who have V70's use BSR. Are they also incorrect on the output? I do think people understand the re-map was for cars when they were brand spanking and BSR would say that themselves, so power loss will no doubt happen over time and true bhp won't be as listed now. I never mentioned anything about this though in my post as this seem obvious.

[t5 pete]

All I am going to say is surely we are all on here to help each other, and not to go off on one another.

Yes, I'm not greatly mechanically minded so I did explained the problem I had with the engine haulting and not giving me power when booting it to a friend who I work with who used to own and race a Toyata MR2 Turbo and he knew exactly the problem I had and explained it to me and said I just needed to run higher octane. All seems fine with 97, but then Hamish said that was what it needed min so.........

I had 95 octaine in it and while he was doing the Rolling Road I mentioned that. He wasn't happy and just said it needed 97 octaine min to perform correctly etc etc. He had no choice as it was now on the Rolling Road, and I had only owned the car 1.5 weeks, and the previous owner said he just used 95 so I did the same as I onlt has put 1 tank full in it since I got it.

I take it I am reading the chart correctly?

I see on the BSR website for the 850R they do just a remap and that says 300hp and BSR are generally a very good manufacturer from what my best friend who now lives in Sweden and works for Volvo Trucks says. He said a lot of his Swedish Volvo colleagues who have V70's use BSR. Are they also incorrect on the output? I do think people understand the re-map was for cars when they were brand spanking and BSR would say that themselves, so power loss will no doubt happen over time and true bhp won't be as listed now. I never mentioned anything about this though in my post. But then surely my re-map output shows that aswell?

Good reply and the dyno explains all

[irf]

big pete, there's a lot of history here regarding this sort of thing. i'll try and be as tactful as i can.

1. some dynos are more equal then others. some just take the piss.

2. no expert but your graph looks a bit weird and is running very rich at some points. sorting that out would net you more power.

3. some dynos are more equal then others.

[t5 pete]

would the lower octain level affect the afr's irf? due to big pete was using 95 octain on a 304 map when this dyno was done

[Enigma666]

From my understanding, a map is a map, it is flashed onto the EEPROM and therefore the RON used at the time is irrelevent.
Under normal 'running' conditions there is no issues with running 95 octane fuel however it is proven to yield less power.
Would it affect AFR - I doubt it somehow. The AFR is controlled by the Map and the MAF sensor I believe?

[Yosser]

Mate, that dyno plot looks weird.

First off - I AM NO EXPERT - but thats just odd.

[hamish]

Mate, that dyno plot looks weird.

First off - I AM NO EXPERT - but thats just odd.

Yosser,

You are right that dyno sheet looks odd to you because you are no expert

The car is an auto which makes it impossible to dyno in the same manner as a manual on any dyno. With this car we were unable to get a decent RPM pick up. So if you look at the x axis along the bottom of the graph you will see we are plotting against Speed and not RPM. The 2 big '"mountains" in the middle are infact a gear change so can be ignored. The 2 runs that are overlaid are before and after (blue std - red tuned). So the car was infact running off the scale rich when it came in and after it left the fueling was at a sensible level for power and durability. It was probably more to do with other issues that we repaired rather than the map that changed the overall fuelling. You will see that the car was producing approx 200bhp at the wheels and the gains were small which is what I would expct from the car/tune/petrol combination. Unfortunately it is impossible to get a torque reading without an actual RPM reading. The typical shape of a power curve is also very different when you ot against speed.
So there you have it nothing odd no funny business, smoke, mirrors or willy waving power claims it is just data displayed in a way that requires a little explanation to the layman.

Regards,
Hamish.

[hamish]

big pete, there's a lot of history here regarding this sort of thing. i'll try and be as tactful as i can.

1. some dynos are more equal then others. some just take the piss.

2. no expert but your graph looks a bit weird and is running very rich at some points. sorting that out would net you more power.

3. some dynos are more equal then others.

Irf,

1) Your'e not wrong there. Didn't you run on a dyno recently that was recording or calculating or guessing 100 bhp of drag losses through the transmission of a front wheel drive car? Surely that would mean a Volvo V70 2.4 would only record 40 bhp at the wheels
2)The very rich was as standard, so yes we have sorted that out as you can see with the after curve.
3) Thanks for the kind words about our Dynojet.You should come and have a go on it sometime I know you would be suprised by it's accuaracy

All the Best,
Hamish.