doh! clutch slipping!

[wilvo]

hi im driving a r reg s70 t5 rica 310 with 55k and me clutch has developed slight slip on full boost in 4th, whats the best/cost efective clutch i will be fiting myself so just need clutch, which is best genuine/sachs or performance bearing in mind i may be looking for more power at a later date.. many thanks will.

[samadkins29]

How much psi are you running?

[S70T5Chris]

If you are just sticking with the RICA 310 then a standard clutch will be fine (I believe the sachs clutch is exactly the same as the genuine one from a dealer).

If you want to go further then and 850R clutch seems to be a good option. I'm running over 500nm torque with an 850R clutch with no problems. You'll need to make sure you have a single mass flywheel tho, if you don't you'll need to get one from an 850. This is what I had to do on my S70 as I had a dual mass flywheel originally. Around 97/98 its a bit hit or miss as to what flywheel you'll have.

Hope that helps.

[wilvo]

If you are just sticking with the RICA 310 then a standard clutch will be fine (I believe the sachs clutch is exactly the same as the genuine one from a dealer).

If you want to go further then and 850R clutch seems to be a good option. I'm running over 500nm torque with an 850R clutch with no problems. You'll need to make sure you have a single mass flywheel tho, if you don't you'll need to get one from an 850. This is what I had to do on my S70 as I had a dual mass flywheel originally. Around 97/98 its a bit hit or miss as to what flywheel you'll have.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for reply, not sure about flywheel i hope its not a duel mass item as im having a nightmare with them failing on vauxhalls, so poss go for a 850 r version not s70? im only running standard rica 310 prob wont go much more unless win lottery but never know, would rather upgrade rather than just replace.

[S70T5Chris]

Try and suss out if you have a dualmass first and then go from there. I'm suprised the clutch is slipping to be honest I had a Rica 310 for 4 odd years up to 109k with no problems and I believe it was the original clutch!

The 850R clutch seems to be proven as being able to cope with a lot more power and torque. I know of a few people that are using an 850R clutch with no problems and a shed load of power/torque.

[wilvo]

right would volvo be able to find out on record do you think as i cant really do without car, any ideas of price as may need to get mother to buy as crimbo pressie, i know not much milage im third owner first owner was a older woman sooooo its only slight at mo say just as boost comes in, in forth.

[S70T5Chris]

right would volvo be able to find out on record do you think as i cant really do without car, any ideas of price as may need to get mother to buy as crimbo pressie, i know not much milage im third owner first owner was a older woman sooooo its only slight at mo say just as boost comes in, in forth.

Ha ha ha, that might explain it then!! The 850R clutch was £190 (ish) from Rufe (frf volvo). Not sure about the flywheel, I managed to blag mine! Apparently, if you have an external slave cylinder, you have singlemass flywheel, if your slave cylinder is built into the gearbox, you have dualmass. That's how I undertsand it!!

If your not gonna go much beyond the Rica 310, then a standard S70 T5 clutch will do you fine.

[wilvo]

Ha ha ha, that might explain it then!! The 850R clutch was £190 (ish) from Rufe (frf volvo). Not sure about the flywheel, I managed to blag mine! Apparently, if you have an external slave cylinder, you have singlemass flywheel, if your slave cylinder is built into the gearbox, you have dualmass. That's how I undertsand it!!

If your not gonna go much beyond the Rica 310, then a standard S70 T5 clutch will do you fine.

have looked this morn and it apears that my slave cylinder is inside the gearbox... does this mean that i have a dual-mass, what is the best thing to do? have had alot of trouble with these things in past most the new vauxhalls are fitted with them......

[S70T5Chris]

I'm fairly ceratin that means you have a dualmass, yes. I don't 'think' there are any problems with the dualmass setup in these cars, it just limits your clutch options. So if your not worried about upping the power any more a standard replacement clutch should do you fine.

If you want to prepare for 'possible' upgrades, then I can recommend fitting an 850 flywheel (can't be much money from a breakers) and an 850R clutch, you can keep the internal slave cylinder afaik. The singlemass flywheel setup isn't as refined as the dualmass tho.

[wilvo]

I'm fairly ceratin that means you have a dualmass, yes. I don't 'think' there are any problems with the dualmass setup in these cars, it just limits your clutch options. So if your not worried about upping the power any more a standard replacement clutch should do you fine.

If you want to prepare for 'possible' upgrades, then I can recommend fitting an 850 flywheel (can't be much money from a breakers) and an 850R clutch, you can keep the internal slave cylinder afaik. The singlemass flywheel setup isn't as refined as the dualmass tho.

cool i think i will retro fit the flywheel to a 850 item as i have foud that helix performance clutches do a clutch for the 850 andi have fitted these to evo's ect and know they are a good clutch...

[S70T5Chris]

I did make enquiries about the helix organic clutches before going with the 850R. They were over twice the price of an 850R clutch, and IIRC the power/torque handling that they supposidly could hanlde wasn't 'all that'. Russ (RT Mechanics) had one of these in the peril, and I know he recommends them so I don't think you could go far wrong if you went down that route.

[wilvo]

cool if was buying a kit i would still need the release bearing/slave off the s70 not 850?

[Tim Williams]

You would use the 850 flywheel, clutch disc and cover plate. New flywheel bolts and the slave cylinder/ release bearing off the orignal gearbox.

Its worth replacing the cover plate botls as they are only 8.8's

[RT MECHANICS]

I did make enquiries about the helix organic clutches before going with the 850R. They were over twice the price of an 850R clutch, and IIRC the power/torque handling that they supposidly could hanlde wasn't 'all that'. Russ (RT Mechanics) had one of these in the peril, and I know he recommends them so I don't think you could go far wrong if you went down that route.

Hi Chris

Just to say i have a Helix full paddle in the Peril it handles my current power fine at the moment we have fitted two of the other helix range to a few cars but they still have stage one/two power but the clutch is now ready to handle more so no need to do it twice

Russ

[wilvo]

quick question does any one know if a non turbo flyweel will fit?