Weitec suspension scam?

**pzorb** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 20:22

I haven't heard the reply from my vendor, nor weitec but today I received 4 OEM sachs branded shocks in a very expensive Weitec box. I started a thread in the US as they have more experience with the product.

http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index...howtopic=56955

Tell me what you think. I'm a bit f*cked off.

**thunderace** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 20:26

pzorb have you asked for a refund yet?

**T5ER** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 20:28

bit unfair that mate,you want the pukka items tbh

**pzorb** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 20:32

Originally Posted by thunderace

pzorb have you asked for a refund yet?

I await the coming working day. Pain in the assets though as I needed to do this job this weekend.

**Redbrick** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 21:20

Originally Posted by pzorb

I haven't heard the reply from my vendor, nor weitec but today I received 4 OEM sachs branded shocks in a very expensive Weitec box. I started a thread in the US as they have more experience with the product.

http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index...howtopic=56955

Tell me what you think. I'm a bit f*cked off.

Was well chuffed when you said you'd gone for them but WTF that's a disgrace- who's the vendor?

**pzorb** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 21:31

Europerformance car parts, but direct from Weitec in Germany to my door. Making me chuckle now how on volvospeed they say that the weitecs are way better than stock and generally were the best shock deal out there. Um, they *ARE* stock. Whoops, that's embarrassing.

**Redbrick** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 22:10

Very very odd- I can fully understand your displeasure.

I bought an Eibach spring and shock kit for our Passat called a Pro something- that had Boge shocks in the kit branded as Eibach! No complaints from me though it's fantastic!

Even though your shocks say Sachs are they standard Sachs? KW make Weitec does that mean Sachs make KW and if they did would that make KW inferior? Do you see what I mean?

**pzorb** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 22:32

Yeah I do. I looked at the KW group page and they don't seem related to Sachs. And the invoice was from KW themselves for sachs parts...

Before I did anything I went on partsforvolvos and low and behold, the same part numbers on my Sachs are the same part numbers for the OEM replacement items on said website.

Not impressed. I don't give a rats how good the kit is, the fact is the sachs replacement parts cost £146.52 leaving the springs to work out at £265.48 - ok they might be amazing springs but buying the springs alone from europerformance cost £116. So that's £149.48 for a Weitec box, four Weitec stickers, and a bad taste in one's mouth

**After_Shock** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 23:08

Doesnt sound good and not easy to sort out with the distances and country's involved.

Hopefully they will sort it out quickly for you.

**pzorb** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 23:18

There's talk on the US forum that the struts are reengineered by Weitec, what do you guys think about this? Both the possibility and the acceptability of it - would you be happy in my position?

**After_Shock** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 23:24

As you mention the part numbers match which I woudlnt be happy with but if they are re-engineered standard items then they wouldnt have been changed.

In my mind if they are OEM bits re-engineered they shouldnt be getting sold as Weitec items.

However they could be excellent units which share little with the standard bits.

**pzorb** · Wednesday 16th August 2006, 23:27

I'll ring my displeasure through tomorrow, and leave this a full day to gauge opinions on it before deciding whether to keep it or not. Certainly if it seems they're vanilla OEM they're going back; if they've been tweaked I might be inclined to keep them for originality's sake (hmmn)

**Redbrick** · Thursday 17th August 2006, 00:13

Originally Posted by pzorb

I'll ring my displeasure through tomorrow, and leave this a full day to gauge opinions on it before deciding whether to keep it or not. Certainly if it seems they're vanilla OEM they're going back; if they've been tweaked I might be inclined to keep them for originality's sake (hmmn)

Tough decision. Don't know what I'd do if I were in your position. Does gdogg's PM off VS shed any light on the situation?

**blackbooty** · Thursday 17th August 2006, 00:31

read thru 3 pages of the yank tripe mate, and to be honest... why did you even bother asking the cretins ????

kenhoeve and Anitanium from accrss the "disease barrier" ,you like to call it the pond (he he, no ones told em a small body of water is a pond ! ) , are evidence that producing children from within a "family" unit, isnt advisable.
(plays banjo in background) !!!

id be pi**** pz***.

wayne

**Baj** · Thursday 17th August 2006, 02:43

Theres always banjos in the background in Norfolk.

pzorb I would phone the supplier and calmly say you ordered x and appear to have got y and you are a little confused. See what their reaction is.
If they start fobbing you off then shout.

**adriancole** · Thursday 17th August 2006, 02:50

i agree with baz...start off like that then give then hell otherwise.....

**pzorb** · Thursday 17th August 2006, 07:53

Originally Posted by Redbrick

Does gdogg's PM off VS shed any light on the situation?

It does indeed. But I won't reproduce it because it's private. All I'll say is that what I've found and the conclusions I have drawn certainly have not been questioned...

**RobA** · Thursday 17th August 2006, 09:12

Absolutely gutted for you pzorb if it turns out to be the scam that it looks like...

I've been wanting the weitecs for ages after reading about them on VS and Swedespeed, they've been championed by so many and to find out that they're nothing more than OEM shocks and matched springs is very weird and surprising...

Keep us posted if and when you find out more

Good luck!

**arbee** · Thursday 17th August 2006, 09:20

I completely agree - regardles of whether the set up is any good or not, If i had been sold a product based on the description on Weitecs website I would be v miffed if some stock shocks arrved in a box - 'perfect match' or not!

**blackbooty** · Thursday 17th August 2006, 13:27

Originally Posted by Baj

Theres always banjos in the background in Norfolk.

pzorb I would phone the supplier and calmly say you ordered x and appear to have got y and you are a little confused. See what their reaction is.
If they start fobbing you off then shout.

how was the pride parade Baj ??? enjoyed yourself no doubt .