Latest pics - ICE

[t5tart]

reminds me of the days i used to work for alpine
and did their demo cars haha
awesom bits of kit

[mulletboy2]

Cheers guys

t5tart - what did you do on/for them? Any cars I might know of?

Arbee - yeah, they're 3.7" outer diameter, but called a 3" driver. No midbasses yet, I'm waiting on the first production run. I was just running 1 - 3 -> 10's.. it isn't as lacking in midbass as you'd expect, although there was a noticable gap. I've played with the crossovers a bit since, and now there's no audible gap, and the sub never really images behind the driver (although it doesn't always stay on the dash).

[arbee]

Cheers guys

Arbee - yeah, they're 3.7" outer diameter, but called a 3" driver. No midbasses yet, I'm waiting on the first production run. I was just running 1 - 3 -> 10's.. it isn't as lacking in midbass as you'd expect, although there was a noticable gap. I've played with the crossovers a bit since, and now there's no audible gap, and the sub never really images behind the driver (although it doesn't always stay on the dash).

thats really impressive, cant wait to have a listen - Trax if not before if you're gonna be there full door builds by then?

Are you happy with the sub 'box' set up?

[mulletboy2]

I'll be at Trax mate Doubt I'll have the full door builds by then - there's at least 3 weeks of fabrication left in them, if I do weekends and week nights, but that's not going to happen due to other commitments. I doubt the midbasses will be here by then either, so I'll be running something along similar lines to what I have now, albeit better setup.

The subs are sounding fantastic tbh ... I can't believe how good they sound considering I know of atleast one way I should be able to seriously improve their installation Might have this sorted out for Trax.

[t5tart]

Cheers guys

t5tart - what did you do on/for them? Any cars I might know of?

Arbee - yeah, they're 3.7" outer diameter, but called a 3" driver. No midbasses yet, I'm waiting on the first production run. I was just running 1 - 3 -> 10's.. it isn't as lacking in midbass as you'd expect, although there was a noticable gap. I've played with the crossovers a bit since, and now there's no audible gap, and the sub never really images behind the driver (although it doesn't always stay on the dash).

i doubt you will know them unless you were into it in the late 80's
worked on their demo cars
put 5k system ino a cavalier hatch and blew the windows out lol
and worked on their bently continental s1 also

worked for them at blakelands

[Wobbly Dave]

We have to get together mark. She needs some paint work doing for sure. I can make her like new!

[mulletboy2]

t5tart - ah, fair enough, not heard of those 2... I do know some of the world's top cars from back then, but not all by any means

Dave - that we do mate! I'm busy all weekend this weekend, but perhaps in a couple of weeks? I'll check out competition dates and see how the install progresses, and hopefully we can work out something, as she's in desperate need of some TLC.

[T5SLAVE]

Well done on the ICE install m8, lovin where ur goin with all that, now more importantly..........WHY THE HELL AINT U DOWN 4 TRAX!!! The VPCUK stand needs that sorta ICE roodery on display

[Wobbly Dave]

We'll have it sorted. I have been spending on new product like you wont believe.

[arbee]

now more importantly..........WHY THE HELL AINT U DOWN 4 TRAX!!! The VPCUK stand needs that sorta ICE roodery on display

Down boy! lol I have already pestered the man and he has shunned us for a better offer....

Will certainly look you up on the day Mark

[T5SLAVE]

Down boy! lol I have already pestered the man and he has shunned us for a better offer....

Will certainly look you up on the day Mark

Sorry

Shunned us 4 what n who, ohhh the cheek of it LOL! Even if I do have a Cos' by then I'm still wantin 2 come along with the Volvo crew 2show off all the hard work that's gone in2 my T5...then I'll deffo sell it, LOL!

[mulletboy2]

Dave - coolio mate. Spending on new product is always good - I should know

T5SLAVE - I have a long-standing arrangement with the owner of IceCavern.co.uk that when my install's up to showable standards but I'm not competing, I'll go on his stand for a couple of shows in return for a favour he did for me a while back. If I'm not competing at Trax, I'll be with the IceCavern peeps - I'll definitely come and find you guys though, or atleast call someone and let you know where to find me

[T5SLAVE]

Dave - coolio mate. Spending on new product is always good - I should know

T5SLAVE - I have a long-standing arrangement with the owner of IceCavern.co.uk that when my install's up to showable standards but I'm not competing, I'll go on his stand for a couple of shows in return for a favour he did for me a while back. If I'm not competing at Trax, I'll be with the IceCavern peeps - I'll definitely come and find you guys though, or atleast call someone and let you know where to find me

Cool cool m8...can't wait 2 see n hear that setup bangin out some ace choons...bit o Kylie anyone, I'm spinnin around...LOL

[mulletboy2]

Few more pics.. this weekend I added the PC in to the car, re-did the wireless router install so that I can get reception inside the car, and added a 4-way CD changer control and 2nd changer (changer stuff needs neatining up, and obviously there's a lot of trim panelling to make up for the entire boot...).

The PC controls the DSP, measures system response, will have optical output of DVD audio to the DSP, monitors temperature sensors, and will eventually control all manner of alarm and other functions.

I've still got to extend various LED's and switches up to the front of the car, and run the 4 temperature sensors to the amps/other suitable places.

Cheers

Mark

[arbee]

omg! thats no mini 'carputer' is it! amazing stuff what kind of dsp programme is it then? is that a popular thing having a pc run something like that? i take it you will still be using just l+r stero channels or are you having rear/centre speakers and a sub 'channel' ? interesting stuff

[mulletboy2]

lol, no mate, it's no mini car pc I could have gone the mini route, but I've saved a fortune by scrounging PC's and parts from mates. I ended up with 2 PC's delivered for £50 IIRC.. that's a 1.6GHz Athlon XP, 512MB SDRAM, 40Gig HDD, 64MB NVidia graphics card (removed, but will be put back in temporarily so I can setup the bios) etc... and I've still got a complete PC to sell, lol. I've added a 120GB Seagate HDD for films/mp3's/etc.. plus a top end soundcard for the audio side of things, which I had sat here waiting for a use.

It's not a normal thing to have a PC control stuff, but there are a few DSP's out there which accept PC control, usually via serial connection.. the old Phoenix Gold TiDEQ (£1000 a piece at the time, but can now be picked up for around £200 each), Altomobile UCS Pro (£500ish, modern, pretty advanced features, but somewhat compromised component usage), and the Alpine F#1 stuff, which has been top of the range for the last 10 years or so..

Most people who own this kind of DSP don't tend to be PC freaks though (more like footballers/princes/etc...), so couldn't care less... they add them and get a shop to set them up. Of the remaining users, many will just connect a laptop for setting up. I could have gone down the same route too, but being a PC geek, I figured that there was a lot more that I could do... and when the RTA (real time analyser) card came up on ebay at a price I couldn't refuse, and it won't fit in to a laptop, I was really only left with one choice

I'm not going to be running 5.1, although obviously the PC supports it, and mine's one of few DSP's that does (DTS). I won't be running it for now, but I wouldn't want to limit my future options... this install has come too far now - I wouldn't want to have to rip it all out and start again just because I did something as trivial as adding 3 more channels of sound/doubling the number of amps

[abdul]

cant wait to see the finished products

[Justin]

Mark if you need anything PC related to add give me a shout, happy to donate where possible and i have a shop full of second hand bits

(BTW, i rang you last week to tell you that you had left 3 CD's in the changer) Give us a bell

[Engineer]

Believing that all cars were built for driving and not for playing music very, very, very, loud, I will give you the BOD for your electronic effort provided the ALTERNATOR can still charge the battery lol. Only joking mate all credit to your efforts, a nice piece of kit.

[mulletboy2]

Thanks guys

Engineer - I'm probably being thick, but all I can come up with for BOD is:

Bag of doughnuts; bandwidth on demand and better off dead

The alternator's not having any problems yet - and if she does, she'll get binned and replaced by something more manly The battery's floating at 13.0V and 13.8-13.9 with the amps/etc... on

J - I don't remember getting a missed call/message from you mate, sorry about that. Will give you a bell tomorrow, thanks! Only things I can think of that I'm after using/upgrading are the following:

DB9 female - DB9 female (think it's the female end anyway - solid with holes, not open with spikes :p ) serial cable. Mine's falling apart, and it controls the brain of the system

Some method to have a DVD drive installed up in the glovebox (IDE obviously not being suitable over such a distance).. whether that's a USB DVD drive and cable, some kind of USB to IDE converter cable/connector, or anything else, I don't mind... just something I'd like to have for obvious reasons, and I'm not really clued up on what's available. I've got a lovely slot loading IDE drive I'd really *like* to use, but if it has to be changed, no worries.

Funky power/reset buttons and HDD/power LED's (I know it's a long shot, and I've pretty much settled on some from the States, but might as well ask)

PSU fan grille (you can spot the missing one in the pic)

Is it possible to split a wireless router's aerial, so I can have the existing one inside, and have another outside the car (was thinking up underneath where the boot handle goes), so I can get decent reception both inside and out (damn Mr Faraday and his cages)?

Lastly some kind of "shutdown controller".. not sure if you'll know about these, but they're used in in-car applications for preventing shut down when voltage dips (i.e when you turn your ignition from 0 or 1 to on, on to off, or plug another device in to an inverter, the voltage can dip to around 5V - a shutdown controller is a bunch of capacitors I presume, which supply the motherboard 12V for long enough for your main supply to come back online). I've already tried a UPS, but the UPS kept on clicking due to the unsmooth supply from the inverter.

Willing to pay fair prices on any of that if you've got it, and interested to hear any other ideas you might have, cheers mate

Mark