Anyone ever put a supercharger on a T5?

[Babybadger]

Has anyone looked into or attempted to put a supercharger on a T5 engine?

[T5ER]

Has anyone looked into or attempted to put a supercharger on a T5 engine?

thought about it mate even had a look at those electronic ones

[Babybadger]

thought about it mate even had a look at those electronic ones

Not one of these by chance http://www.turbonator.com/WhatIsIt.html

[T5ER]

I dont think so does not look like the one i see

[Babybadger]

I dont think so does not look like the one i see

Nor would you be seen dead in a shirt like this

http://www.turbonator.com/Assets/Testamonial1.jpg

[T5ER]

Nor would you be seen dead in a shirt like this

http://www.turbonator.com/Assets/Testamonial1.jpg

thats a nasty shirt reminds me of american hotrod something like good old Boyd Coddington would wear

[pzorb]

Surely too much boost at low RPM? Bent rods anyone?

[Tomcat]

Why?, Superchargers work similar to turbos, only they're belt driven.

[Serdar-S60T5]

i'm curious really, has anyone tried this turbonator or any other superchargers ?

i checked the site but i don't see any info about using it on an already turbocharged vehicle or not..

[Wobbly Dave]

Why would anyone want a supercharger on a T5 engine when it already has a turbo?

[pzorb]

Why?, Superchargers work similar to turbos, only they're belt driven.

Surely the difference is that with a turbo you have to wait for the wastegate to open-up the boost, where-as a supercharger is giving you boost because it's a pump running whatever the engine's upto? Which is why you use it over a turbo... to negate turbo lag...? That's my understanding of it anyway And 'cos of that, and our cars being real rod happy with high torque at low rpm, you'd get them bent unless you limited the supercharger to work only over a certain boost (which would be pointless cos that's a turbo!)
And i think you'd have to replace the trubo with the supercharger, I can't see how you could get the two to work together (if you hooked both their outputs to a common manifold then surely the turbo would have to work against the boost pressure of the supercahrger and vice versa when over certain rpm)

[Wobbly Dave]

We are looking to get more power by burning more fuel and air as efficiently as possible inside the cylinder. You can do that in 2 ways - more cylinders/bigger capacity or by forcing more fuel and air into the same space. Ultimately forced induction methods are a trade off for smaller capacity engines (there is no replacement for displacement!!)

Main disadvantage of the supercharger method with regards to forced induction is the belt takes power from the engine to drive it. Turbo lag as you describe is indeed an issue with the turbocharger - but Volvo have spent some time creating manifold designs that reduce the time it takes to spool the turbine (exhaust side of turbo). The wastegate is only there to control the pressure. In itself it doesnt create turbo lag. There is the other advantage of the turbo is that the pressure it creates is free - it is driven by the exhaust gases. It is also possible with the turbo route to overcome the power band problem - by having a small turbo for the low end revs which then is overtaken by a larger turbo to push through at the top end.

Personally I cannot see why the 5 pot would benefit from a supercharger vs the turbo?

[Babybadger]

The reason I have bought this up is because VW have just released a supercharged /turbocharged Golf! The VW GOLF TSI 170 Now if they have done it, it must be feasible. After all they indirectly with Audi developed the T5 engine originally. Admittedly this is a 1.4, but 170 BHP and 240NM of Torque sounds good and it will still perform at higher altitudes.

[T5ER]

The reason I have bought this up is because VW have just released a supercharged /turbocharged Golf! The VW GOLF TSI 170 Now if they have done it, it must be feasible. After all they indirectly with Audi developed the T5 engine originally. Admittedly this is a 1.4, but 170 BHP and 240NM of Torque sounds good and it will still perform at higher altitudes.

thats a fair bit of power for a 1.4 so as said if they can surley we can do it to

[T5SLAVE]

There are good arguments in favour of both superchargers and turbo's, equally tho (as has been pointed out already here) they both have draw backs...doesn't everything The supercharged+turbocharged method is definately a well proven one, if maybe a lil extreme and rare, I think I'm right in sayin Toyota produced a loony MR2 with this configuration bolted to a 2.0L??? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
If it proves right from a mechanical point of view maybe it could work on the T5 5 pot lumps...who knows..........

[S60T5]

Hello boys and girls.

Overe here in Sweden we have a really crazy guy.
He´s put a T5 engine in an Opel (Vauxhall) Manta.
That engine has been supercharged, and turbocharged.
He uses the supercharger on lower RPM´s and when the Turbo reaches 1.0 bar of preassure, then a mechanical valve makes a switch to the turbo.
The pipings after the turbo and the supercharger uses the same pipings, due to the problem of having twin intercoolers and so on.
When the valve closes to the supercharger, the higher pressure from the turbo doesn´t run the wrong way, up to the supercharger and blowing it to the moon.
Really smart construction, but it looks really wierd. I don´t know how he has done to make everything work that well together. He runs mid 10´s on the quartermile, and has about 500 or so rwhp... Or if it was close to 600, not really sure. I´ll try to find some pictures of it.
But the color is bright orange.

Best regards // Peter Larsson

[T5ER]

Hello boys and girls.

Overe here in Sweden we have a really crazy guy.
He´s put a T5 engine in an Opel (Vauxhall) Manta.
That engine has been supercharged, and turbocharged.
He uses the supercharger on lower RPM´s and when the Turbo reaches 1.0 bar of preassure, then a mechanical valve makes a switch to the turbo.
The pipings after the turbo and the supercharger uses the same pipings, due to the problem of having twin intercoolers and so on.
When the valve closes to the supercharger, the higher pressure from the turbo doesn´t run the wrong way, up to the supercharger and blowing it to the moon.
Really smart construction, but it looks really wierd. I don´t know how he has done to make everything work that well together. He runs mid 10´s on the quartermile, and has about 500 or so rwhp... Or if it was close to 600, not really sure. I´ll try to find some pictures of it.
But the color is bright orange.

Best regards // Peter Larsson

Sounds good mate pics would be very greatfull

[Babybadger]

Hello boys and girls.

Overe here in Sweden we have a really crazy guy.
He´s put a T5 engine in an Opel (Vauxhall) Manta.
That engine has been supercharged, and turbocharged.
He uses the supercharger on lower RPM´s and when the Turbo reaches 1.0 bar of preassure, then a mechanical valve makes a switch to the turbo.
The pipings after the turbo and the supercharger uses the same pipings, due to the problem of having twin intercoolers and so on.
When the valve closes to the supercharger, the higher pressure from the turbo doesn´t run the wrong way, up to the supercharger and blowing it to the moon.
Really smart construction, but it looks really wierd. I don´t know how he has done to make everything work that well together. He runs mid 10´s on the quartermile, and has about 500 or so rwhp... Or if it was close to 600, not really sure. I´ll try to find some pictures of it.
But the color is bright orange.

Best regards // Peter Larsson

The Golf TSI uses a electromagnetic clutch to disengage at 3000 rpm where the Turbo takes over, so ECU programming would come into it I think.

[madness]

the video is on the wesite of the guy with the 744 that likes drifting..
www.hedberg-production.com

hang on i'm looking.

i cant find it. how do i host a vid or can somebody volunteer for me?
i have it here but can t find it again