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househooligan
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:22
Can some 1 tell me what engine comes in the 760 turbo. I know the 740 turbo has a 2.0ltr 16v lump need to know what in 760? I want one!

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:25
2.3 and welcome to the forum!

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fraz13
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:26
2.3 4cyl ;)

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:27
2.3 4cyl ;)

Beat ya!! :haha:

x

househooligan
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:28
2.3 4cyl ;)

So its not the same as the 850 t5 then! I take it its 16v then. Do you know the bhp it gives?

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:30
Its actually a cylinder down on T5 engine. it produces 177bhp

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fraz13
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:32
Beat ya!! :haha:

x
you always beat me ;)

Sorry dont know any more but there will be someone that will able 2 answer your questions... Wheres Wobbly???

Oh and welcome to the forum

fraz13
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:34
Beat me again, STOP IT!!!! :hilarious

Wobbly Dave
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:35
Both wrong the 760 was is a 2.8L peugeot V6. Only produced 188bhp.

BTW Welcome

fraz13
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:36
hahahaha :slap:

Wobbly Dave
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:37
740 had the B230K/FT engine. 760 had the V6 B280K/FT engine

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:37
No it wasn't that was prior to the 2.3 turbo charged version

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househooligan
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:40
Both wrong the 760 was is a 2.8L peugeot V6. Only produced 188bhp.

BTW Welcome
How come there are 760 turbos for sale on ebay! and if it was v6 it would have 6cylinders would int it! Come on who's telling the truth here!

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:41
How come there are 760 turbos for sale on ebay! and if it was v6 it would have 6cylinders would int it! Come on who's telling the truth here!

Me!!! Ignore Wobbly he gets a little ahead of himself!

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Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:42
740 had the B230K/FT engine. 760 had the V6 B280K/FT engine

Engine B230ET

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househooligan
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:43
Has any 1 heard of t5 engines being put into 760's? I just cant beleave they make a car like the 850 t5 and make it front wheel drive. Just dose not make sence.

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:44
I haven't heard of anyone doing that in the UK - it must be doable tho?

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Wobbly Dave
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:44
I am confused - original question was ...


Can some 1 tell me what engine comes in the 760 turbo
V6 -2.8 litre

Never even seen one. It was a french engine.

740s always had the 2.3 litre engine - I owned one.

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:46
I am confused


V6 -2.8 litre



Correct...followed by the 4 cylinder turbocharged 2.3 - whats so confusing?

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Wobbly Dave
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:48
Has any 1 heard of t5 engines being put into 760's? I just cant beleave they make a car like the 850 t5 and make it front wheel drive. Just dose not make sence.
I have seen a number T5 conversions on the 700 series before.

househooligan
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:50
I am confused - original question was ...


V6 -2.8 litre

Never even seen one. It was a french engine.

740s always had the 2.3 litre engine - I owned one.

I dont know mate.Im new to volvo performance cars. I just want a turbo volvo but i want rwd,fwd is no fun! but it seems the volvo's with the bigger bhp are fwd. what was your 740 like. Can there be lots of tunning done to engine.

Wobbly Dave
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:53
I dont know mate.Im new to volvo performance cars. I just want a turbo volvo but i want rwd,fwd is no fun! but it seems the volvo's with the bigger bhp are fwd. what was your 740 like. Can there be lots of tunning done to engine.
One word... slow.

http://www.bigredvolvos.co.uk/galleries/my740_gallery.htm

0 - 60 in 13 seconds.

On the bright side I did try to make up for certain performance issues by adding lots of lights. :slap:

Have you been out in a T5 yet?

househooligan
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:57
I have seen a number T5 conversions on the 700 series before.

I surpose all that needs to be done is change the engine mounts in the 760 or 740 to take the transverse!!!!!!(I think) engine, change engine mangerment use same gear box from 740,760 I spect its that simple.NOT!

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 22:57
Both wrong the 760 was is a 2.8L peugeot V6. Only produced 188bhp.

BTW Welcome

MrsMopp and Frazer I am sorry for telling you that your were wrong when in fact you were absolutely right having first checked your facts and figures before posting....LMSO!! ;)

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househooligan
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:01
One word... slow.

http://www.bigredvolvos.co.uk/galleries/my740_gallery.htm

0 - 60 in 13 seconds.

On the bright side I did try to make up for certain performance issues by adding lots of lights. :slap:

Have you been out in a T5 yet?

No i havint. It seems t5 is the way to go then even iif it is fwd. Still want rwd.The 740,760 must be very heavy cars?

fraz13
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:02
:hilarious

Wobbly Dave
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:03
I surpose all that needs to be done is change the engine mounts in the 760 or 740 to take the transverse!!!!!!(I think) engine, change engine mangerment use same gear box from 740,760 I spect its that simple.NOT!Nope it aint that simple. There are loads of posts on the internet. I originally looked at putting a 3.5Litre V6 K series engine in my 740 to make it move better but the insurance was a nightmare. Which is why I ended up in a T5. Very happily ever since.
I was quoted 3 grand to do the V6 conversion. BTW

However the loom and engine management transplants are doable, especially on the earlier T5 engine.
Most of the T5 conversions I have seen are in America.

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:09
MrsMopp and Frazer I am sorry for telling you that your were wrong when in fact you were absolutely right having first checked your facts and figures before posting....LMSO!! ;)

x

Ahem!! :haha:

x

househooligan
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:09
Nope it aint that simple. There are loads of posts on the internet. I originally looked at putting a 3.5Litre V6 K series engine in my 740 to make it move better but the insurance was a nightmare. Which is why I ended up in a T5. Very happily ever since.
I was quoted 3 grand to do the V6 conversion. BTW

However the loom and engine management transplants are doable, especially on the earlier T5 engine.
Most of the T5 conversions I have seen are in America.

So the 740 then is the turboed car not 760. Are they so slow because they are so heavy?

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:10
The 760 was a turbo charged 2.3

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pikeajm
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:11
also did a 4cl 2L low presure turbo in the 940

househooligan
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:13
So the 740 then is the turboed car not 760. Are they so slow because they are so heavy?

With a 2.3ltr 16v turbo engine there must be more power lerking around in there with a bit of clever tunning im sure it could be a rapad blower!

househooligan
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:18
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1984-VOLVO-760-TURBO-SILVER-STUNNING-MINT-ONLY-60K_W0QQitemZ4632641607QQcategoryZ9872QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem
Maybe that might clear the air a bit about whats blown and whats not!

Wobbly Dave
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:20
I had the B230K engine in my old beast (NASP) - which was SOHC. (8 Valve).

IMHO if you want to keep it simple - find a 960 3 litre (24 Valve) for RWD. But there again - most of those will be automatics and quite high mileage?

Mrsmopp
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:22
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1984-VOLVO-760-TURBO-SILVER-STUNNING-MINT-ONLY-60K_W0QQitemZ4632641607QQcategoryZ9872QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem
Maybe that might clear the air a bit about whats blown and whats not!

And the case rests ;)

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Wobbly Dave
Sunday 23rd April 2006, 23:26
Well I shall not be believing anything that is on VOC again - lol

The Flying Banana
Monday 24th April 2006, 00:03
I am confused - original question was ...


V6 -2.8 litre

Never even seen one. It was a french engine.

740s always had the 2.3 litre engine - I owned one.

I have seen one ..infact i owned one but it was in a Renault 30 TX....and may i just say it is a stonker of an engine ...all alloy v6 ...usually robbe dto put into kit cars but really none left now ... couple of 605 Peugeots kicking about with them in it up here but getting rare

volvotuning
Monday 24th April 2006, 02:27
Well I shall not be believing anything that is on VOC again - lol

Better late than never! :bricks:

Adam.

rickbee
Monday 24th April 2006, 07:40
I have seen one ..infact i owned one but it was in a Renault 30 TX....and may i just say it is a stonker of an engine ...all alloy v6 ...usually robbe dto put into kit cars but really none left now ... couple of 605 Peugeots kicking about with them in it up here but getting rare

I had brief relationship with a Peugeot 505 Executive a few years ago that had this V6 engine. I think it was shared around the PSA group.T'was indeed a good lump, shame about the rest of the car. If I remember correctly wasnt it the same engine that was put into the Renault Alpine Turbo?

racer
Monday 24th April 2006, 08:07
I had a 760 Turbo Estate before I got my first T5. I really liked it at the time, huge cargo bay, towed anything and pretty fast. It was 2.3 Litre, had 4 cylinders and 8 valves BTW. I eventually gave it away when the gearbox went and it developed a few MOT issues at the same time.
Then I got my first T5. I was worried about going from rear to front drive, but the T5 converted me in about 5 hours. It's a lot faster and it goes a lot further on the same amount of fuel too.
The 745 Turbo was a nice car, but IMHO the 855/V70 is so much better I'd not even consider having a 700 series car.

Niles
Monday 24th April 2006, 12:11
Volvo 760 GLE (2.8l 6cyl) engine also went in to the Delorean & the Renault Alpine GTA, However the Renault Alpine GTA V6 Turbo had a 2.4v6 dunno where from. 740 Turbo 2.3 4cyl inj. 760 turbo 2.3 4cyl inj. 760 GLE 2.8 V6 injection. V6 was unreliable due to cylinder head warping. PROMISE!!!! lol

nobananas
Wednesday 26th April 2006, 22:44
The 2.8 V6 was actually a colaboration in the late seventies between Volvo, Peugeot, Renault and Talbot. My mate had a 760 turbo estate which had a 4 pot 8-valve in it . Prior to that he had a much older 760 saloon which had the 2.8 v6 in it so it would seem that everybody is right ! The renault 25 turbo was also a v6 of 2.5 litres which may be the same donk which ended up in the Renault Alpine.

househooligan
Thursday 27th April 2006, 21:47
To rap this all up, I am a mechanic and in our work shop we have lots of charts telling things like the amount of oil to put in a certain car and the differant modles.And there was a volvo 760 v6 and a 760 turbo.So there you have it, The End :nutkick:

oliwally
Thursday 27th April 2006, 23:12
So What Engine Was Fitted To The 7 Series In The Vid.
That Certianly Had Some Poke To It?
Wish My 850 Could Do That!.

househooligan
Saturday 29th April 2006, 11:42
So What Engine Was Fitted To The 7 Series In The Vid.
That Certianly Had Some Poke To It?
Wish My 850 Could Do That!.

I dont know,but man that car riped like f"*k. I spect the 2.3 8v turbo engine was modded right up. 400bhp it said in the video did'int it! Ass end drive rules.

oliwally
Saturday 29th April 2006, 13:11
But That Was A 2000cc 16 Valve?

Chesh740R
Sunday 30th April 2006, 01:14
Hopefully to try and clear up some confusion.

Volvo's model Numbering system all went pear shaped with the 760 Turbo.

For a long time the 2nd digit in the model number denoted the number of cylinders fitted. Hence the name 850 due to 5 cylinders.

Of course the more cylinders the more luxurious the car was.

However when the 760 first Came out, it originally was launched with the 2.8 V6 engine (B280E) 170bhp, the PRV collaboration with Peugeot and Renault..

But Volvo had been quite sucessfull in turboing the 4 cylinder 2.1 (B21ET) engine in 240's. They applied this science to the 2.3 4 cylinder engine, and decided that it was such a fine engine they had to offer it aswell in the 760. Hence the 760's turbos came with (B23ET) 182BHP engines.

A year or so later the 740 range was launched as the bog standard cars, with very little equipment compared to the 760's fully loaded specs.

The 740 range mainly consisted of 2.3 Carb engines (B230K) 114bhp
As the years went by and carbs faded away a 2.0 Petrol Injection took over (B200E) 114bhp
They also decided to launch a 740 Turbo version which came with the (B230ET) 182bhp engine.

around the late 80's volvo decided that it was time to do something with there single overhead cam 8v engines so they dabbled with this new fangled 16v Technolgy and the 2.3 16v engine known as the B234F with 155bhp was released. This clearly shows how well the head flowed. a near 40bhp increase was not to be sniffed at.

Now some markets in europe (italy) where cars were taxed heavily if over 2.0 in size led to volvo making the B204FT. a 2.0 16v Turbo with (204bhp) yes the same figure a standard sierra cosworth made at the time!!!

Unfortanley due to the location of the turbo on the 16v turbo, this engine could never be offered to RHD markets as the turbo sat where the steering collom came through the bulk head, which was a shame as you could imagine the fun the advertising exectives at volvo could have had with comparisons to the cosworth. Maybe the volvo tuning scene would have kicked off back then with these cars.

The 740/760 ranges were superceeded with the 940& 960 range and the engines mainly stayed the same, except there was now some engine renaming The B230ET became the B230FT a 2.3 Turbo Injected engine that met current emmision standards, which is why the power dropped to 165bhp from 182bhp.

Also a budget B200FT 8v engine was made which made 155bhp, meaning the costly 16v engine was killed off, and for pure bargain basement level a B230F n/a engine was introduced with not a lot of power.

The 960's soldered on with either the v6 or turbo engines for another year until the straight 6 cylinder porsche designed engines came into play. The whiteblock engines as there known were the test basis for the 850 engines abeit with an extra cylinder.


The impressive 740/760 turbo video where it roasts it tyres round a few rounabouts near a motorway, is a 2.5 4cylinder 16v engine with one hella large turbo.

Oh and as for putting an 850/70 series engine in a rwd car, if someone wants to donate me an engine, i'll gladly put one in mine as all it requires is some custom engine mounts, taking the 960 oil pan and shorten it down a bit to fit the 5pot engine. This then gives you clearance over the steering subframe as your going from a transverse to longtitude layout. A 5 speed gearbox from the Whiteblock 960's will bolt straight to the back of a 5 pot engine. then its the simple task of wiring up the engine managment.

Voila a T5 with RWD.

Wobbly Dave
Sunday 30th April 2006, 18:56
Thanks Chesh for clearing that up!

househooligan
Sunday 30th April 2006, 19:38
Yep cheers mate. You know your volvo's. Just so get this right, a 5 pot engine will fit in rwd 760 with a few changes to sump and mounts? What about engine mangarment, I take it you have to use the 850's 1?:confused:

Chesh740R
Sunday 30th April 2006, 20:15
As for Ecu systems, the cheapest method is to take the ECU from the donor engine vehicle.

This can be a bit of a headache and seem very daunting, but with some time spent poring over wiring diagrams it can easily be achieved. You just need to ensure that all engine sensors are traced back to the fuel and ignition ecu's.
Any wires left over, you should be able to determine what they do from wiring diagrams.

I can't quote for certain on T5 wiring set up, but on other engine swaps i've done the ECU system wiring is pretty much self contained and can ussualy be swapped over and then all that is needed is to provide it with Earths and Postives, of the Switched variety, and some hooking up to exsisting FI compents like the fuel pumps. However you must ensure the fuel pumps are of the same Delivery capabilty as the T5.

Of course using the Standard ECU system allows you to get the car started quite quickly and then you have further access to the remapping companies should you wish to extract more power than stock.

However of course the best option is too buy an aftermarket programable ECU system, this is where you would need to do some research, as i'm not sure which companies support 5 Cylinder engines. Look towards the Audi Quattro tuners or swedish tuners of T5's. This way you can future tune any further modifications you do and seeing as the engine bay is bigger you can fit a header and remove the restrictive exhaust manifold that is stock on t5's due to space constraints.

Enjoy the build, i'll get round to dropping a 5 pot engine in something RWD at some point, but i'm not done with the old 4 pot engines yet. I forsee myself playing with 16v turbo redblocks once i've finished my 8v turbo project.

T5ER
Sunday 30th April 2006, 20:51
As for Ecu systems, the cheapest method is to take the ECU from the donor engine vehicle.

This can be a bit of a headache and seem very daunting, but with some time spent poring over wiring diagrams it can easily be achieved. You just need to ensure that all engine sensors are traced back to the fuel and ignition ecu's.
Any wires left over, you should be able to determine what they do from wiring diagrams.

I can't quote for certain on T5 wiring set up, but on other engine swaps i've done the ECU system wiring is pretty much self contained and can ussualy be swapped over and then all that is needed is to provide it with Earths and Postives, of the Switched variety, and some hooking up to exsisting FI compents like the fuel pumps. However you must ensure the fuel pumps are of the same Delivery capabilty as the T5.

Of course using the Standard ECU system allows you to get the car started quite quickly and then you have further access to the remapping companies should you wish to extract more power than stock.

However of course the best option is too buy an aftermarket programable ECU system, this is where you would need to do some research, as i'm not sure which companies support 5 Cylinder engines. Look towards the Audi Quattro tuners or swedish tuners of T5's. This way you can future tune any further modifications you do and seeing as the engine bay is bigger you can fit a header and remove the restrictive exhaust manifold that is stock on t5's due to space constraints.

Enjoy the build, i'll get round to dropping a 5 pot engine in something RWD at some point, but i'm not done with the old 4 pot engines yet. I forsee myself playing with 16v turbo redblocks once i've finished my 8v turbo project.

a man of knowledge allways very usefull,can the b5234ft engines be run on a twin carb/weber alpha injection set up

Chesh740R
Monday 1st May 2006, 19:55
a man of knowledge allways very usefull,can the b5234ft engines be run on a twin carb/weber alpha injection set up

Not really on a twin carb/weber setup as there are only 4 injectors and 4 butterfly's. You would need them to sell a setup that had 5.

That would perhaps be a nice setup if you were building a Naturally aspirated Engine, so of course you would need to start with a different base engine as the compression ratio's of the Turbo engine would be all wrong to start with.

If you were wishing to stay Turbo Powered You could of course build a custom plenum chamber for the 5 pot and fit the intake end with the largest Throttle body you could find, but wether the gains over a stock T5 Intake manifold would be worth the extra cost i'm not sure.

Best bet would be to equip the standard 850 Intake with the Throttle body from a 960 6 pot engine and port it out to gain optimum flow. As for the gains over stock again, probably marginal for the cost/time spent.

Babybadger
Tuesday 2nd May 2006, 13:07
740 had the B230K/FT engine. 760 had the V6 B280K/FT engine

It's all going a bit anorak-ky..... ;-)

Babybadger
Tuesday 2nd May 2006, 13:09
I dont know,but man that car riped like f"*k. I spect the 2.3 8v turbo engine was modded right up. 400bhp it said in the video did'int it! Ass end drive rules.

Have heard of a guy that put a V8 Ford in it

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/gilesij/Volvord/

househooligan
Tuesday 2nd May 2006, 20:50
Have heard of a guy that put a V8 Ford in it

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/gilesij/Volvord/

Now that's what im talking about! Hours of don nut fun!

Porcine_Aviator
Thursday 24th July 2008, 23:10
Both wrong the 760 was is a 2.8L peugeot V6. Only produced 188bhp.

BTW Welcome

Yup I had a 760 and it had a V6 Peugeot lump in it. It was nice to drive, I had the engine's ends go just on my way to a party, Vicars and Tarts, I was dressed up like Father Jack, when the recovery bloke came he thought I was the real thing. He treated me really well, that was until my other half came out dressed up as the Pope. The tears were rolling down people's faces when they found out.:ices_rofl

We got a replacement engine and spent £300 getting it fitted, then the MOT came around and the steering rack failed, went it was cheaper to sell it for what I could get than spend more money on it.

But as a work horse it did us proud while we had it.

Welcome to the boards have fun.:welcome:

v70torslanda
Thursday 11th September 2008, 22:20
Whats wrong with a 960 saloon or estate, a V90 or S90?

2.5 or 3.0 litre, 6-cyl, 24 valve and so cheap ATM. Just buy one and save yourself the arse of trying to engineer a conversion that was never intended. If I was after a big, lazy, petrol saloon that's what I'd be getting . . .

J

cameron
Sunday 14th September 2008, 21:56
It's a 2.3 litre four pot with a cast iron block and a aluminum single over head cam head with 2 valves per cylinder. The cast iron block is tough and quiet. The cam is timed by a belt which is very quiet and has to be replaced every 50,000 miles or else it may break and then the valves will hit the cylinder resulting in catastrophic engine failer. But apperently if you change the belt every 50,000 miles the engine will run very long reliably and efficiently. The turbo is a real upgrade. It makes more power, lower down, uses less fuel, makes less noise, and has lower emissions. The motor has a bosch fuel injection system turbo with intercooler, and behind the turbo there is a catalytic converter and two mufflers run one after another. So very quiet and clean and efficient. The motor makes 160hp at 5800rpm, and 180 foot pound of torque at 2800rpm.

I found this on the net!

Filterlab
Sunday 14th September 2008, 23:52
It's a 2.3 litre four pot with a cast iron block and a aluminum single over head cam head with 2 valves per cylinder. The cast iron block is tough and quiet. The cam is timed by a belt which is very quiet and has to be replaced every 50,000 miles or else it may break and then the valves will hit the cylinder resulting in catastrophic engine failer. But apperently if you change the belt every 50,000 miles the engine will run very long reliably and efficiently. The turbo is a real upgrade. It makes more power, lower down, uses less fuel, makes less noise, and has lower emissions. The motor has a bosch fuel injection system turbo with intercooler, and behind the turbo there is a catalytic converter and two mufflers run one after another. So very quiet and clean and efficient. The motor makes 160hp at 5800rpm, and 180 foot pound of torque at 2800rpm.

Shame there's not much information there.

:)

rogerhechorister
Tuesday 16th December 2008, 14:50
What Chesh says. But as I think he also knows but did not mention, if you bolt the 5 potter straight onto a whiteblock M90, the dizzy fouls the bulkhead.

timbo_1975
Tuesday 16th December 2008, 22:18
Yep cheers mate. You know your volvo's. Just so get this right, a 5 pot engine will fit in rwd 760 with a few changes to sump and mounts? What about engine mangarment, I take it you have to use the 850's 1?:confused:

You could yes, but to simplfy matters would need to start with a pre 95 NON-immobilized ecu...

Babybadger
Thursday 18th December 2008, 23:26
2.3 4cyl ;)

Is that Saab derived?

timbo_1975
Friday 19th December 2008, 01:32
Err no, not related to any Saab motor in any way.