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amphead123
Wednesday 29th March 2006, 20:47
Any advice on which ecu upgrade/chip is the best performance versus mpg-wise??

Engineer
Wednesday 29th March 2006, 20:55
Any advice on which ecu upgrade/chip is the best performance versus mpg-wise??No lol.

volvotuning
Wednesday 29th March 2006, 21:02
Any advice on which ecu upgrade/chip is the best performance versus mpg-wise??

Well, my D5 did 15 mpg instantaneous while doing the 1/4 mile. If anyone has any data on their T5 then this may be the only comparison available!! :)

Adam.

Andrew
Wednesday 29th March 2006, 21:02
No lol.
He's a helpful sod aint he.

Consider the RICA 280 - standard fuel - bit of power - easy on the walet.

Or a custom map of any type as they can do it specifically for economy if you want.

amphead123
Wednesday 29th March 2006, 21:07
any ideas how much the rica 280 costs to install, and where it can be done ( i live up north in sunny Newcastle, but am willing to travel)

Andrew
Wednesday 29th March 2006, 21:09
any ideas how much the rica 280 costs to install, and where it can be done ( i live up north in sunny Newcastle, but am willing to travel)

See Adam at VolvoTuning UK - give them a buzz he can help you. Speak to our webmaster and he can give you a discount code too I believe.

Ac.

Engineer
Wednesday 29th March 2006, 22:35
He's a helpful sod aint he.
Just being honest mate, if you really want mpg out of a 70 series then keep it standard because you will use it once mapped or chipped regardless of the tuner options (and if you don't why bother in the first place) then it is never going to return a decent mpg. Hence my short answer lol.

Wobbly Dave
Wednesday 29th March 2006, 23:21
Just being honest mate, if you really want mpg out of a 70 series then keep it standard because you will use it once mapped or chipped regardless of the tuner options (and if you don't why bother in the first place) then it is never going to return a decent mpg. Hence my short answer lol.
how can you say that when it clearly isnt true?

Mrsmopp
Thursday 30th March 2006, 08:33
how can you say that when it clearly isnt true?

Would have to agree! I get exactly the same mpg as I did pre RICA on my S70!

x

Wobbly Dave
Thursday 30th March 2006, 09:17
So maybe there is some truth in the MPG staying the same post tune. All of mine have improved but some may not for whatever reason??

Mrsmopp
Thursday 30th March 2006, 09:23
So maybe there is some truth in the MPG staying the same post tune. All of mine have improved but some may not for whatever reason??

Thing is tho I drive it like a hooligan with the RICA whereas I drove like Miss Daisy as standard, they are too flat and lazy as standard to warrant hooning around so when I say mine has stayed the same I mean I get the same mpg from driving like a scolded rica cat as I did driving like I had a brick stuck under my loud pedal pre Rica!

Did that make any sense??

x

Broaders
Thursday 30th March 2006, 12:11
I have found my MPG increase slightly after the Rica, and I certainly don't potter around...

Engineer
Thursday 30th March 2006, 23:12
how can you say that when it clearly isnt true?Hi Dave, I have generalised a bit mate, granted, but if you you use more energy to push the pistons down then you need more fuel to create that power same fuel octane rating and everything else being equal.

Redbrick
Thursday 30th March 2006, 23:45
I have seen a massive improvement with my 19T Rica map compared to my Superchip. Drove from Bristol to Andrews in Cambridge and got 30mpg on the motorways. When I hammered the Superchip I was seeing 18mpg, the 19T map sees about 22.5.

My Rica'd Passat 1.8T petrol has seen a 4mpg increase in economy too, and goes like £££££ off a shovel as well.

So you can have your cake and eat it.

Wobbly Dave
Thursday 30th March 2006, 23:53
So I conject that so long as you are not driving "like you stole it" all the time it would not be unreasonable to expect an improvement in MPG?

Redbrick
Thursday 30th March 2006, 23:57
So I conject that so long as you are not driving "like you stole it" all the time it would not be unreasonable to expect an improvement in MPG?

Correct, Sir.

Engineer
Friday 31st March 2006, 00:11
Is this a RICA advert or a discussion on bmep / mpg lol. :wink:

volvotuning
Friday 31st March 2006, 00:26
Hi Dave, I have generalised a bit mate, granted, but if you you use more energy to push the pistons down then you need more fuel to create that power same fuel octane rating and everything else being equal.

Not necessarily! ;)

Adam.

Engineer
Friday 31st March 2006, 00:31
Not necessarily! ;)

Adam.Explain dude................... Im a :dunce: lol.

Redbrick
Friday 31st March 2006, 00:31
Is this a RICA advert or a discussion on bmep / mpg lol. :wink:

I can only speak from experience- Superchips SUCKED, Rica has seen an improvement.

Anyone with TME/ MTE, Unichip, PPC, blah blah care to add to the discussion for the sake of balance?

Engineer
Friday 31st March 2006, 00:33
Explain dude................... Im a :dunce: lol.
Better still we got to have beer and a good natter mate long overdue IMHO.

volvotuning
Friday 31st March 2006, 01:01
Better still we got to have beer and a good natter mate long overdue IMHO.

Agreed!

But for the sake of others who may be interested, here are two points which give a clue as to why you get better economy -

1. How the fuel is burned will determine how much energy is used to push that piston!

2. Tuning changes the torque characteristics to the extent that it allows you to alter your driving style in a way that lends itself to more economical driving under many conditions.

Details will be saved for the beer! You're buying the first round. :)

Adam.

phil
Saturday 1st April 2006, 11:20
Ive done over 60,000 miles now with the 310 rica and a 3000 or so before the rica.

cars done 160k in total.

I now get around 30mpg on a normal 70ish cruise on motorway and A roads with occassional hard accelerates from roundabouts etc.

Slightly harder driving gets around 29 over same rouds before rica i used to get high 27.9 etc, so its around a 1mph improvement so around 3% ish.

This is all using shell optimax.

Best ever was 34mpg on a 300 mile trip with family and full load at a constant 50-60mph or so on empoty a roads.

Ive yet to try the mpg when driving harder on a a/b roads as im not that bothered then but i know its a lot less than this and dont even bother around town!

I do keep meaning to get a diesel instead but my old escort 18T diesel only used to get 39 - 43 mpg so there doesnt seem the point at moment.

So considering performance its pretty good, what other family estates will retunr a regular 30mpg and do a std qtr in aroun 14-15 secs!

An you can get a wardrobe in the back1

If only the insurance was more reasonable

craig
Monday 3rd April 2006, 21:48
:B_thumb: if you wanna play youve gotta pay

Engineer
Monday 3rd April 2006, 22:08
:B_thumb: if you wanna play youve gotta payAin't that right craig :B_thumb:

Ok Adam no sweat Ill buy the first round, must be true then that all you northern folk have long pockets :wink: joking aside its going to be who can get up to buy the last round that worries me lol. :drunk:

pzorb
Monday 3rd April 2006, 23:00
At the time, for my particular car, it felt like worse mpg for constant legal motorway speeds but better mpg when doing around 85. Dunno if that's atypical or something to do with volvo tuning the cars to be economical for legally sitting on motorways.