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CAMO
Monday 3rd August 2015, 20:16
Seen this on ebay, and wondered if anybody has took the plunge and had one.
Looks like a self solder job????
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181817566823?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

twr
Monday 3rd August 2015, 20:19
Not for a t5 but I did for a Clio Williams once which went horribly wrong. Personally I would avoid and get it done by somebody who does it for you for not much more money like..... Well I prefer not to say I case I upset anybody

martin_r_smith
Monday 3rd August 2015, 22:53
Just...... No!

MoleT-5R
Tuesday 4th August 2015, 01:28
I'd want a lot information on it than it gives in the ebay ad and as the old saying goes "if it seems too cheap to be true, it probably is"

ExternalError
Tuesday 4th August 2015, 10:08
No,No and No Mighty Car Mods did a myth busters on these things and had them analysed at best it will be a resistor built into a chip that will reduce the signal strength of some readings there for providing the ecu with false readings to counteract its safety cut off mechanisms built into the ecu at worst it could cause damage to your ecu or other components, save the money and get a proper map later down the line.

Gold 'N' Brown
Tuesday 4th August 2015, 12:30
Wee chav went past me this morning revving his crapped out Civic 1.4 for no good reason. You could see the fumes from the exhaust and the air was thick with it for a good minute after. First thing I thought was "that'll be an eBay resistor mod then".

EDIT: Apologies that this has very little to do with the question :troutslap:

CAMO
Tuesday 4th August 2015, 23:28
OK I get it. NOOOOOOOOOOO!

MoleT-5R
Tuesday 4th August 2015, 23:59
Shem seems to be getting a lot of mentions in various places for re-maps, worth considering and the price looks good for stage 1/2 from what I saw of his ebay ad

Buddy-T5
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 07:53
I have the same chip. I've bought it on eBay. With modifications I got 317hp and 489nm on it. Everything works perfect. I'm satisfied.

jamesy12345
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 08:03
I have the same chip. I've bought it on eBay. With modifications I got 317hp and 489nm on it. Everything works perfect. I'm satisfied.

Any chance of a list of modifications & a dyno print out?

//edit

not this is it..?

Vot:

https://www.drive2.ru/r/volvo/878736/

1. Чип DP Tuning на 300 л.с. и 430нм. CHIP DP TUNING
2. Прямоточный выпуск, задняя банка MG RACE EXAUST
3. Дроссель с 960 70мм THROTTLE BODY 960
4. Насос бош 040 BOSCH FUEL PUMP
5. Форсы синие на 350сс INJECTORS
6. Алюминиевый пайпинг 2.5' + силикон самко спорт INTERCOOLER PIPING/HOSES
7. Корпус расходомера от 960 76мм MAF
8. Вентиляция картера в атмосферу. BLOW OFF VALVE
9. Коробка m56H+QUAIFE BOX & LSD
10. Кулер Apexi V-Mount. FMIC
11. Распредвалы от 2.5 атмо. NA CAMS
12. Впускной коллектор кастом CUSTOM INTAKE MANIFOLD
13. Внешний байпас Forge EVO/Subaru BYPASS VALVE?? maybe recirc
14. Резина Hankook RS3 TYRES
15. Нулевик AEM AIR FILTER
16. Свечи Denso IK-27 SPARK PLUGS
17. Выпускной коллектор от S60R EXHAUST MANIFOLD

Паспортные данные

Двигатель 2.3 (226 л.с.) 2319 CC ENGINE
Машина 1993 года выпуска, была куплена в 2012 году 1993 CAR, PURCHASED IN 2012

kmb
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 08:19
Maybe he's an Ebay chip selling bot... especially as he only joined the forum yesterday and posted this :o

jamesy12345
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 08:57
Maybe he's an Ebay chip selling bot... especially as he only joined the forum yesterday and posted this :o

that was my first thoughts hence the request for some evidence...."pictures or it didn't happen"....but the numbers mentioned and user name match the Belarusian car I linked above.

twr
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 09:15
I have the same chip. I've bought it on eBay. With modifications I got 317hp and 489nm on it. Everything works perfect. I'm satisfied.
I will eat my own hat hahaha

jamesy12345
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 09:30
I will eat my own hat hahaha

it does seem high for a 15G...

Buddy-T5
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 10:15
it does seem high for a 15G...

Yes, the link is right on my car. There you can find the whole info about the car and the process of tuning. Also there are some videos and pictures of Dyno

dant5r
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 10:28
I'm I right in think that it made 317bhp at 3500 rpm ?

jamesy12345
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 10:29
Yes, the link is right on my car. There you can find the whole info about the car and the process of tuning. Also there are some videos and pictures of Dyno

well hello & :welcome: then. I thought you were an ebay seller going to sell us chips.

Looks like you are from Belarus? Everyone in Belarus knows who this is: 29392

If you tell me who is this guy, then you have passed the test and I for one will believe you :)

jamesy12345
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 10:37
I'm I right in think that it made 317bhp at 3500 rpm ?

The graph in the link below says 317 at 5185

https://www.drive2.ru/r/volvo/878736/logbook/

dant5r
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 10:40
I was looking at the top red which must be torque.

smithy
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 10:59
What did the car do on the quater mile against the Saab

mike 850
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 11:22
I had that exact chip previously, made similar numbers to rica, about 280 bhp on my 94 t5 manual, afrs all good, not much below 3.8k but nice above that, ok for a cheapy

Ettienne
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 11:54
I know from speaking with rob the 304/310 remaps (which he has copies of as data / settings) are just tweaking the fuel and ignition timing and very little else.

I would say it's risky buying one, but with the 940s we buy loose chips and fit them from eBay / forum users.

It could be possible that the seller is such a person as a forum user and flashes them on, but obviously that's difficult to tell via Ebay.

kmb
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 12:10
I'd suggest getting Oblark to sort a nice progressively mapped M4.4 ECU, works nicely on my T5.

oblark
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 12:21
I've seen a 16t make that sort of power and then it died so for a 15g to make 317 bhp .............

The rica maps are just a fuel, ignition and boost increases within the safe boundaries of the standard map.

Buddy-T5
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 18:55
I've seen a 16t make that sort of power and then it died so for a 15g to make 317 bhp .............

The rica maps are just a fuel, ignition and boost increases within the safe boundaries of the standard map.


Well, the boost is not extremely high, on 4th it's 1.4bar in peak and 1bar in the end. Of course, the lifetime of the turbo became less, but not so catastrophic. Such power was gained due to modifications. I'm pretty sure that I can gain a bit more by installing green injectors, raising boost to 1.5bar in peak, tuning the program of the chip and tuning the position of NA cams. But there is no need to do that, because you will bent rods. A month ago I've bent rods on my engine. I raised the boost to maximum 1.7-1.8bar and the car produced around 330-335hp, but after several drag races the engine started to knock. Than I lowered the boost to 1.4 in peak and made a dyno and several drag races with saab. So 317hp was dynode with bent rods:) Now I'm planning to install H-beam rods, K24 turbo. Yesterday the quaife was installed in gearbox.

Ettienne
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 19:00
Well, the boost is not extremely high, on 4th it's 1.4bar in peak and 1bar in the end. Of course, the lifetime of the turbo became less, but not so catastrophic. Such power was gained due to modifications. I'm pretty sure that I can gain a bit more by installing green injectors, raising boost to 1.5bar in peak, tuning the program of the chip and tuning the position of NA cams. But there is no need to do that, because you will bent rods. A month ago I've bent rods on my engine. I raised the boost to maximum 1.7-1.8bar and the car produced around 330-335hp, but after several drag races the engine started to knock. Than I lowered the boost to 1.4 in peak and made a dyno and several drag races with saab. So 317hp was dynode with bent rods:) Now I'm planning to install H-beam rods, K24 turbo. Yesterday the quaife was installed in gearbox.

Can you post up a project thread, it would be interesting to see. Where abouts are you from?

Buddy-T5
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 19:21
http://www.drive2.ru/r/volvo/878736/ This is my thread, but its in Russian, I don't think you will understand anything. I'm from Belarus, Minsk city.

Ettienne
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 19:26
http://www.drive2.ru/r/volvo/878736/ This is my thread, but its in Russian, I don't think you will understand anything. I'm from Belarus, Minsk city.

Your not wrong I can't read Russian lol, I can see some thing like 76mm throttle body etc

Good work!!

Buddy-T5
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 19:30
Thanx, I cant wait till I'll install k24 turbo. I'm planning to have about 360-370 hp, with quaife it should run pretty nice.

oblark
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 19:32
Well, the boost is not extremely high, on 4th it's 1.4bar in peak and 1bar in the end. Of course, the lifetime of the turbo became less, but not so catastrophic. Such power was gained due to modifications. I'm pretty sure that I can gain a bit more by installing green injectors, raising boost to 1.5bar in peak, tuning the program of the chip and tuning the position of NA cams. But there is no need to do that, because you will bent rods. A month ago I've bent rods on my engine. I raised the boost to maximum 1.7-1.8bar and the car produced around 330-335hp, but after several drag races the engine started to knock. Than I lowered the boost to 1.4 in peak and made a dyno and several drag races with saab. So 317hp was dynode with bent rods:) Now I'm planning to install H-beam rods, K24 turbo. Yesterday the quaife was installed in gearbox.

Have you had it mapped for the larger MAF and the 350cc injectors ?

Buddy-T5
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 19:37
No, didn't do anything with the chip. That's why I'm saying that I can gain a bit more power.

oblark
Wednesday 5th August 2015, 20:01
No, didn't do anything with the chip. That's why I'm saying that I can gain a bit more power.

Ooooohh.

The standard ecu is mapped for the standard MAF which gives at 4.9v 826 kg/hr with standard injectors which are 315cc with a injector constant of 1.0

So if you are running a 960 MAF which gives at 4.9v 1107 kg/hr and the 350cc injectors having a injecctor constant of 0.906

I'm running a M4.4 ecu mapped for 3.25" MAF which at 4.9v gives 1603 kg/hr and greens which are 440cc with a constant of 0.7735

I had to run drive my car 7 miles when I had a M4.4 ecu problem with a RICA 304 ecu and it idled rough and drove very lean.

So if you haven't mapped for the larger maf and injectors I would question the 317 bhp reading.

Buddy-T5
Thursday 6th August 2015, 08:33
Well, the aim was to get 300hp+ on stock turbo and it was achieved. Next step in tuning will be k24 turbo with m4.4 mapped properly.