P2R tuning advice

[wallace570]

anyone running 400bhp with there p2r what mods have been done to reach this mark, pros and cons what to get n what to avoid...and what kind of cost has been involved

[ExternalError]

Theres not many running the p2's at 400+bhp as it means changing the turbo to achieve this you should be able to get to around 350-370bhp by fitting bigger injectors, full 3" exhaust system, a bigger intercooler and a custom remap oh and either shim the liners or get darton liners fitted as the r's are known to split the liners at high boost(although not all R suffer this problem)

[wallace570]

cheers, yea i think im gonna spend a few grand on this wee thing. i see that the states have a cavalli turbo ctb30vr seems n sounds a nice bit of kit. i read that anything above 22psi they seem to ££££ them selfs :smirk:

[M-R-P]

Thought the thread title said "Turning advice" which is a common problem on the R.

Stay clear of small multi-story car parks and narrow roads :)

:)

[ExternalError]

cheers, yea i think im gonna spend a few grand on this wee thing. i see that the states have a cavalli turbo ctb30vr seems n sounds a nice bit of kit. i read that anything above 22psi they seem to ££££ them selfs :smirk:

I'd wait to see on that turbo as its very new so tuning potential hasn't been proven yet for longevity, you may want to speak to Dream3r or DTP on here as they are using that turbo

[Dream3r]

Yeah the Cavalii seems good on paper and is very fast in my car. Longevity is yet unproven, it's still in the development stage on my car. Awaiting a larger MAF once I find a filter that fits.

There has been a lot of concern by some that the exhaust housing is a Volvo TD04 one and is also too small. Here is what Cavalli say https://www.facebook.com/CavalliTurbo/photos/a.171247449750008.1073741828.167500926791327/196241073917312/ .
We use a triple k modifed turbine housing with a 58mm turbine wheel. It is a little different than the factory R housing, but bolts directly to the stock downpipe and manifold. We use our CT3 compressor housing with a 55mm billet compressor wheel. We will be dyno testing shortly. We have to have a supporting tune in place as you know and we are working that out now. We have boost set to a maximum of 17 lbs during testing and we see max boost right at 3k rpms. If you have any other questions, feel free to call me at 185550turbo. Thanks Chris

As for the American's they have 399 WHP from it as seen here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR0cVmdh4jw

Would I recommend it? Jury is still out on that, as above.

[Dream3r]

cheers, yea i think im gonna spend a few grand on this wee thing. i see that the states have a cavalli turbo ctb30vr seems n sounds a nice bit of kit. i read that anything above 22psi they seem to ££££ them selfs :smirk:

From what I can gleam from the states it's broken ringland issues. Same happens on the Ford 5 ports over here when being pushed. That's all hearsay though.

[Dream3r]

As for performance, on my car, here is a recent graph I took of a 3rd gear pull.

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww161/jpcurrie/maf_saturated.png

A tuned R with a K24 will rarely do more than 1020 kg/hr, I'm guessing this is around 1400kg/hr+ based off figures I've seen with this turbo and larger mafs.

This is with a shimmed block, 45mm IC, 630cc (at 3 bar) injectors, Feritta Exhaust, 3" DP and my own map.

(Yes on paper at least it's well over 400 BHP)

[wallace570]

cheers, il get saving with a car this pristine it just needs to be a wee sleeper and i love the sound of that vid that is music to my ears. my friend was going to make me the exhaust his works 2nd to none but iv have a big problem my clutch has went soft and wont open up for selecting gears theres no spring back in the clutch its like pushing a break pedal thats full of air

[Dream3r]

No problem.

I'll be updating my build thread here over the next few months, too damn cold atm and I can't make my mind up on the maf. :)

[wallace570]

il keep an eye on your thread :) What kind of clutch are you using...ive got a suspected slave cylinder gone so when the box comes off i may aswell uprate the clutch when its off

[dtp]

John is mapping my car with the CTB30VR turbo & the results are very good. I have just put in the AP racing clutch and SMF from Don at Kalmar Union rated at 440 lbs/ft or 600 Nm's it feels very much like an OEM clutch only slightly stiffer. If you are not loosing fluid it might be the clutch master cylinder. This went on mine.

[wallace570]

the fluid looks fine when i looked, i only got it yesterday n it went last night so im a bit stuck for getting it in and fixed straight away but il get it in next month and fixed, was going from 6th to 3rd crunched but never went in lifted the clutch back down and wouldn't select any gear so im not too sure whats happened, what kind of moneys in them if u dont mind me asking or have you got a link

[stribo]

the fluid looks fine when i looked, i only got it yesterday n it went last night so im a bit stuck for getting it in and fixed straight away but il get it in next month and fixed, was going from 6th to 3rd crunched but never went in lifted the clutch back down and wouldn't select any gear so im not too sure whats happened, what kind of moneys in them if u dont mind me asking or have you got a link

http://kalmar-union.com/parts/volvo-transmission/

This is what we'll be having fitted when the clutch gives up on our R, pretty sure it's the one DTP is using.

[dtp]

the fluid looks fine when i looked, i only got it yesterday n it went last night so im a bit stuck for getting it in and fixed straight away but il get it in next month and fixed, was going from 6th to 3rd crunched but never went in lifted the clutch back down and wouldn't select any gear so im not too sure whats happened, what kind of moneys in them if u dont mind me asking or have you got a link

Another problem I had with mine is the cables on top of the gearbox jumped out on a fsst gear change I could not select any gear. Take your air box out and check the cables. Clutch kit £879

[dtp]

http://kalmar-union.com/parts/volvo-transmission/

This is what we'll be having fitted when the clutch gives up on our R, pretty sure it's the one DTP is using.

Yes that's the one

[wallace570]

Another problem I had with mine is the cables on top of the gearbox jumped out on a fsst gear change I could not select any gear. Take your air box out and check the cables. Clutch kit £879

thats the 1st thing i done took the air box out there all attached n free checked for leeks couldn't find any, so its parked at my mates and im stuck with the old work banger for now :'( it will move if i select 1st and start it so i dont think ive shattered the plate, cheers il have a wee look at the kit now

[ExternalError]

That ap clutch and fly wheel is a nice bit of kit i have it in mine clutch feel is almost the same as a standard clutch which is exactly what i was looking for

[wallace570]

anyone ha dealings with these? my friend got on especialy made for his scirrocco with a single mass its a little bit more springy from the pedal and the clutch is more sharper for biting but he has a 6 paddle
http://www.clutch-specialists.co.uk/dual-friction-kit-for-volvo-v70-25-t5-turbo-4x4--b5254t2-engines_p23371738.htm

[Dream3r]

Not myself, Don's has provenance in at least one track car, most likely many more as well.

You'd be basically trying it out for the rest of us ;)

[Dream3r]

There's also the Ford RS clutch to consider snd some of he Helix offerings for the same model.

[don kalmar union]

The Focus RS standard clutch is practically the same as the standard Volvo S60R/V70R clutch part number V30783258. That Volvo 'R' clutch cover exerts about a 40% greater pressure than the standard contemporary 'T5' cover and if you want to eliminate the DMF you might consider my light single mass flywheel that you can find here on my website:

http://kalmar-union.com/parts/volvo-s60_s80_xc70_v70_-transmission/

That combination, or indeed my AP Racing/KU clutch and flywheel kit are both suitable for the M66 gearbox installation in the S60/V79 and in all the smaller T5s.

Don.

[wallace570]

Il be in touch, probly be the end of Feb, al get one ordered

[wallace570]

suspected master that thought of £1300-1500 after i just bought the car, it crippled me haha. but its a all a little bit relieving hearing that. thats it recovered sitting at the garage will have a call on monday to confirm when its been took apart means ive got spare money for shiney parts......3" turbo back or a fmic and induction kit