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Sweep
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 17:25
I noticed earlier my lights aren't so great, I assume it's just on standard lamps so have you guys got any experience with uprated ones like the Halfrauds brilliant or whatever they're called?

claymore
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 17:27
best bet is to upgrade to hid.

M-R-P
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 17:34
Yep HIDs and if you can get some aftermarket projectors, it'll be even better.

t5 pete
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 17:36
Absoutly crap as said hid's will be a big improvment

Saaamon
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 17:46
I changed the glass on mine to new LHD ones and it improved the light output no end. HIDs rarely look good in old cars and they just blind everyone coming towards you and lights up the inside of the car your following.

claymore
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 18:01
I changed the glass on mine to new LHD ones and it improved the light output no end. HIDs rarely look good in old cars and they just blind everyone coming towards you and lights up the inside of the car your following.

So, you're dazzling all oncoming cars?

V70 Graham
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 18:07
I changed the glass on mine to new LHD ones and it improved the light output no end. HIDs rarely look good in old cars and they just blind everyone coming towards you and lights up the inside of the car your following.

I'd say mine don't look too shabby lol

Nealevo
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 18:11
My HID lights are much better than standard, you can get a cheapish set off flea bay

craigoodwood
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 18:23
HIDs rarely look good in old cars and they just blind everyone coming towards you and lights up the inside of the car your following.

i gotta agree with that, hids on patterned glass are awful for other road users especially when the car they are on isnt worth as much as the hid kit they put it on

Saaamon
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 18:57
So, you're dazzling all oncoming cars?

Fair comment, although there nowhere near as bad as HID's.


I'd say mine don't look too shabby lol

I'm referring to pattern glass.

Sweep
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 18:58
Aren't 850 headlights reflector style headlights?

Biff
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 19:41
I have led bulbs in mine & am planning on a hid kit for main beam. Also have some 80w led fog light bulbs...
I like to see where I'm going. Lol
I have mine set down on the 2 setting & they are still really good. I changed my number plate bulbs, side lights & headlights with led for under £20 off the Chinese on eBay.

jamesy12345
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 19:47
I'm not impressed with my lights, beam pattern not very good. Not very bright either (the lights not me). They look good in daylight but that's about it

27788

Slight improvement over my old 460 though it must be said

foammanmark
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 19:56
I had black projectors on my Nautic R, and I was really disappointed with the lack of light hitting the road. Sold it before I managed to fit HID's, but my kit should be here for my C70(which now has the black projectors on her) tomorrow.

oblark
Tuesday 30th December 2014, 20:15
These came from PFV and a lot better than the standard candles.

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/20131012_151436.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/volvo%20850%20t5/20131012_151436.jpg.html)

LiamT4
Wednesday 31st December 2014, 16:03
I'm not impressed with my lights, beam pattern not very good. Not very bright either (the lights not me). They look good in daylight but that's about it

27788

Slight improvement over my old 460 though it must be said


I had black projectors on my Nautic R, and I was really disappointed with the lack of light hitting the road. Sold it before I managed to fit HID's, but my kit should be here for my C70(which now has the black projectors on her) tomorrow.

Wobbly had those ages ago and it was because of the beam pattern that he replaced them with the 2003 c70 crystal headlights which were much better.

foammanmark
Wednesday 31st December 2014, 17:28
Wobbly had those ages ago and it was because of the beam pattern that he replaced them with the 2003 c70 crystal headlights which were much better.

I did swap my crystals from the C70 to the R before selling the R, and there was a noticeable difference for the better. Hope you appreciate that Rogo 1806!! Hoping that HID's will sort the black projectors on the C70 out when I fit them.

Rogo1806
Thursday 1st January 2015, 11:39
I did swap my crystals from the C70 to the R before selling the R, and there was a noticeable difference for the better. Hope you appreciate that Rogo 1806!! Hoping that HID's will sort the black projectors on the C70 out when I fit them.

Appreciate that very much so :big grin:

claymore
Thursday 1st January 2015, 12:36
These came from BMW, but I haven't tested them yet:

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u258/claymore2k/T10%20Projects/20141228_104421.jpg (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/claymore2k/media/T10%20Projects/20141228_104421.jpg.html)

LiamT4
Thursday 1st January 2015, 12:57
These came from BMW, but I haven't tested them yet:

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u258/claymore2k/T10%20Projects/20141228_104421.jpg (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/claymore2k/media/T10%20Projects/20141228_104421.jpg.html)

Candles in jars colin ;)

stribo
Thursday 1st January 2015, 13:44
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/Volvo%20C70/WP_000435.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/Volvo%20C70/WP_000435.jpg.html)
Standard headlight and a black projector with HID, although it doesn't look like it in the photo, the HID is much better, and lights the road up much better than the standard light.

foammanmark
Thursday 1st January 2015, 15:03
Magic. and I hope I get the same result with my kit.

foammanmark
Thursday 1st January 2015, 15:04
Appreciate that very much so :big grin:

The crystals did look so much better on the dark car as well I thought.

LeeT5
Thursday 1st January 2015, 19:26
I changed the glass on mine to new LHD ones and it improved the light output no end. HIDs rarely look good in old cars and they just blind everyone coming towards you and lights up the inside of the car your following.

I gotta say that I disagree with that comment. The mistake a lot of ppl make is fitting A) the wrong type of HID bulb and B) the wrong colour temp. Anything brighter than 5700k will look blue or have a blue tinge around the edge. On a 850 you need to use a HID bulb that has the black shield on the bulb glass. This must be intact to prevent unmetered light and hot spots. Also, keep close to 4300k for that OE look but with a hell of a lot more light output than a halogen bulb.


I'm not impressed with my lights, beam pattern not very good. Not very bright either (the lights not me). They look good in daylight but that's about it

27788


Slight improvement over my old 460 though it must be said

I had these black projectors on my laser blue R. I used 6000k hid bulbs that were without the black shield.
The light output was awesome compared to stock and the beam pattern was so crisp and sharp, you couldn't walk In front of the car else you'd cut your legs! If anyone wants to see what they looked light at night I can post some pictures.

jamesy12345
Thursday 1st January 2015, 19:41
Wobbly had those ages ago and it was because of the beam pattern that he replaced them with the 2003 c70 crystal headlights which were much better.


...I had these black projectors on my laser blue R. I used 6000k hid bulbs that were without the black shield.
The light output was awesome compared to stock and the beam pattern was so crisp and sharp, you couldn't walk In front of the car else you'd cut your legs! If anyone wants to see what they looked light at night I can post some pictures.

Maybe I can try some new bulbs, but at the moment I can't believe anyone would spend 250 quid on these lights (and 200 quid for the rear clusters) to

a. make the car look worse
b. give out poor light
c. devalue the car

claymore
Thursday 1st January 2015, 19:44
Maybe I can try some new bulbs, but at the moment I can't believe anyone would spend 250 quid on these lights (and 200 quid for the rear clusters) to

a. make the car look worse
b. give out poor light
c. devalue the car

It's all a mater of taste, you may not like them but a lot of people do.

jamesy12345
Thursday 1st January 2015, 19:59
It's all a mater of taste, you may not like them but a lot of people do.

I loves a bit of OE I does.

I think I would be fine about them if they were cheap, but surely not approx half the value of the car!!

Doingitsideways
Thursday 1st January 2015, 20:58
I loves a bit of OE I does.

I think I would be fine about them if they were cheap, but surely not approx half the value of the car!!

I thought Frankie had them off you?

Agreed on the 460 though Matey, I usually put a lit cigarette out of the window to double the lighting output! ;)

LeeT5
Thursday 1st January 2015, 21:05
When I get to my pc later I'll post a photo of my P2R parked next to my girlfriends TT. Hers has stock projectors with 4300k and mine has stock bi-xenon reflectors with 5000k D2R bulbs. You can really see a difference in colour temp and the light output onto the road is vastly greater than the TT. 5000k are a whiter light with increased output than a 6000k because after 5700k you start to loose light output, even thou they appear brighter to the naked eye.
All these muppets with 8000k plus bulbs are doing themselves no favours. They look ridiculous on older cars, as said, and you'll see less on the road.

LeeT5
Thursday 1st January 2015, 21:07
I thought Frankie had them off you?

Agreed on the 460 though Matey, I usually put a lit cigarette out of the window to double the lighting output! ;)

You should try some 3800k or 4300k on the 460 with new glass. Won't look stupid or out of place and will dramatically improve light output and night time visibility.

T5RatherAmusin
Thursday 1st January 2015, 21:57
i have 5000k in mine, pure white awsomeness lol
27800

jamesy12345
Thursday 1st January 2015, 22:02
I thought Frankie had them off you?

Agreed on the 460 though Matey, I usually put a lit cigarette out of the window to double the lighting output! ;)

He didn't take them, Steve. You can have them if you want - we need to do a deal involving lights, ECUs & a birch steering wheel :D I'll even throw in a box of mugs

480 are the better 400-series for lighting...here's mine with 3 bulbs out on the 8 forward lights

27801

the-man-that-can
Sunday 4th January 2015, 13:57
Hi anyone tell me what type of HID's i need for my car? not sure if its h1 or h4? thanks in advance :)

also which is best option 6k or 8k?

claymore
Sunday 4th January 2015, 14:19
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u258/claymore2k/T10%20Projects/20150104_124005.jpg (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/claymore2k/media/T10%20Projects/20150104_124005.jpg.html)

stribo
Sunday 4th January 2015, 15:58
Hi anyone tell me what type of HID's i need for my car? not sure if its h1 or h4? thanks in advance :)

also which is best option 6k or 8k?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/55W-HID-Bi-Xenon-High-Low-Conversion-Kit-Slim-Ballasts-Car-Headlight-H4-6000K-/251616933415?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a9589b627

the-man-that-can
Sunday 4th January 2015, 19:26
THANKS stribo have just bought them :) will i need to buy another set? cant recall if its 2 low 2 high bulb set up or not mate?

stribo
Sunday 4th January 2015, 19:33
Looking at the kit, it does high and low beam, not sure how though. Best wait for it to turn up, and see what's included. ;)

the-man-that-can
Sunday 4th January 2015, 19:35
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

martin_r_smith
Sunday 4th January 2015, 19:57
Looking at the kit, it does high and low beam, not sure how though. Best wait for it to turn up, and see what's included. ;)

Aren't H4 dual filament bulbs (hi and low) and H1's single so you need 2 sets? I know mine has H1's.

AcidicDavey
Sunday 4th January 2015, 19:57
Regarding the Projector vs standard headlights on an x70 I have to say that standard bulbs in the projectors were really really poor!
Believe me, I know, I was running with them for a very long time.

...but, putting some £15 eBay 6000K transformed them. With the normal bulbs they were simply poo.

With the HIDs the beam pattern is so sharp and correct and light output is much higher. The projectors literally 'project' the light where it needs to be.

And I've never been flashed in the dark with the HIDs so I can't be doing any harm.

The biggest proof of this is by using the headlight wipers, now you can actually see their shadow as they pass the light, before you could not.

They are of course as said a matter of taste, some colours and cars they suite, others not so much.
For me a Saffy looks great with the C70 Crystals :)

Whatever your lights you may be finding poor illumination because of your lights being way too far out of alignment, it turned out at one point I was way off and adjust them to the safe point where I still wasn't getting flashed or lighting up car's interiors etc also made a big difference.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7494/16157577582_6bd3fd2403_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qBMNTQ)31-12-14 002 (https://flic.kr/p/qBMNTQ) by AcidicDavey (https://www.flickr.com/people/83938051@N08/), on Flickr

the-man-that-can
Sunday 4th January 2015, 20:21
Aren't H4 dual filament bulbs (hi and low) and H1's single so you need 2 sets? I know mine has H1's.

Oh well for 19.99 can give em to me bro if they don't fit my car! Thought someone here would have known but nm LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

LeeT5
Monday 5th January 2015, 13:08
THANKS stribo have just bought them :) will i need to buy another set? cant recall if its 2 low 2 high bulb set up or not mate?

NO. The set you've bought are Bi-xenon bulbs. When you pull your high beam switch the relay will energize a magnet in the base of the bulb and pull the bulb backwards. This will then filter the light through the metal sleeve onto a different part of the reflector.
You only need the one kit.


Looking at the kit, it does high and low beam, not sure how though. Best wait for it to turn up, and see what's included. ;)

Correct, it does. As above mate for explanation. :)
I have these on my work van and they are super bright!

Saaamon
Monday 5th January 2015, 14:44
Must say LeeT5 you certainly know your stuff regarding HIDs.