C70 2.0 to T5

[Doingitsideways]

Soo...

The Father in law has a 2000/01 Y-reg 2.0t C70 with a pretty pants 180bhp and a failing ETM.

I was looking at getting it remapped for a giggle (and to shut him up) for a fairly modest gain to 210bhp if you believe Rica's crap on the website.

Then I threw a spanner in the works and took him out in my (formerly Jamesy's) S70 - a slightly fettled T5!

Now, predictably he wants some of that action!

Anyway, I'm waffling now. (Boxing day, most of a case of Strongbow done)

So I was wandering...

With the car being ME7, if I were to suddenly find myself with an ME7 T5 lump complete with turbo etc taking up space in my shed, would it just be a case of bolting it into to C70 and swapping in the ECU??

You never know, this could even lead to me and him lining up on the strip at this rate! ;)

[stribo]

For what it would cost, it would be cheaper to buy a T5, they're only about £500/600.

[deathrider311271]

cant use the ECU on ME7s, speak to Dreamer about putting a T5 map on the existing ECU

[Doingitsideways]

Hmm... Trouble is, he's quite attached to the car and to be fair it is mechanically sound.

I suppose I was thinking of it as a sort of 'bonding' thing between me and him too.
Not that we really need it, as we get on like a house on fire anyway (hence the case of Strongbow each!)

As for the ECU, is that because of the coding in the key?
If so, could strapping the appropriate key to the collumn not work, as favoured in so many old skool conversions? ;)

[stribo]

The ECU is coded to the car, so unlike M4.3/4s you can't just swap ECUs between cars.

[Doingitsideways]

Ah, fair do's.

Hmm... Worth a second coat of looking at then, and probably more than pub logic!

[Dream3r]

As long as you swap over ALL of the sensors and exhaust then I can't see a problem.

You need to find a T5 ECU if the same year then I can marry them up so the T5 will start in the car.

Cost is £120.

The most important sensors that you might not think of are MAF, complete with element and housing AND the BPS.

[Doingitsideways]

Thanks.

Yeah, I was thinking of swapping pretty much everything over.

But... BPS??

As for recoding the ECU, is that something that you could do by post?
I only ask, as you're not exactly around the corner from me :(

Edit:
Boost pressure sensor.
Gotcha ;)

[Dream3r]

Yes post is fine :)

[Doingitsideways]

Cool.

So what would that involve?

Post you both ECUs, for you to make me one usable one?

Also, how much to stick a less crap map on it while you were at it? ;)

[Dream3r]

Correct Sir, posted £400 in total.

pm me your ecu number and I will have a look at what I have lying.

[Doingitsideways]

Ok, I'll have a look when I'm next around there.

All just ideas buzzing around my head at the min ;)

[deathrider311271]

i cant understand why you dont just change a few items, ie turbo to 19T/k24, 3" exhaust, injectors and intercooler. i have a mate with a 2.0T running 400whp on standard engine

[Doingitsideways]

Tempting.

But I would have thought a 19t on a 2.0 would be massively laggy.

Plus, there's the cost to consider.

I could pick up a donor for a few hundred quid with pretty much everything I need already on it.

A decent 19t would cost that on it's own, probably more realistically :(

[stribo]

You'd never need to worry about split liners on a 2L. ;)

[Doingitsideways]

Thinking about it, I've been toying with upgrading the S70 to an 18t as the 16 is well and truely maxed as it is.

What sort of gains could I expect with a 16t, exhaust and decent map on a 2.0?
I don't know what turbo a 2.0t runs, but I'm presuming it's tiny, maybe a 13?

[deathrider311271]

my 2.5T made 230bhp just running 16T @ 9psi with exhaust on a standard R map

[Doingitsideways]

Ok, so I'm giving this a bit more thought now.

So, let's say I have a goal of 250bhp.

What would I be looking at mod wise, on a budget, to reach this?

Does the 2.0 have crappy rods, or can they handle a decent whack of boost?
I know the block is good for it, due to thicker cylinder walls :)

Am I right in thinking that the 2.0 manual 'box has shorter ratios too?
Should make a reasonably quick car at that sort of power. Def a big step up from standard.

Answers on a postcard to... ;)

[Doingitsideways]

my 2.5T made 230bhp just running 16T @ 9psi with exhaust on a standard R map

9psi on an R map?

Surely the R map would boost much higher?

Or am I missing something? I usually do! ;)

[Doingitsideways]

Hmm... Beginning to think I smell :(

Come on people, give me some ideas, preferably on a budget.
I went out in the car in question before, it's painful, even my diesel 960 feels quicker!!

[Jamest5r]

Fit a Mbc simples :)


And yes you smell :)

[foammanmark]

Do you want to try my me7 C70 T5 manual to see what you think? I'm not far from you.

[Doingitsideways]

Do you want to try my me7 C70 T5 manual to see what you think? I'm not far from you.

Yeah, that might be an idea mate, thanks.
It would give me a good idea what to aim for at least.
What power are you running though?

I've already got a fettled S70 T5, but that is an auto.


Oh, James: I know I stink, just hoped noone else had noticed! :(

I thought MBCs on ME7 were a no-no?
Prob wrong like, wouldn't be the first time. Although, Mrs Sideways is usually involved!

[foammanmark]

Yeah, that might be an idea mate, thanks.
It would give me a good idea what to aim for at least.
What power are you running though?

I've already got a fettled S70 T5, but that is an auto.


Oh, James: I know I stink, just hoped noone else had noticed! :(

I thought MBCs on ME7 were a no-no?
Prob wrong like, wouldn't be the first time. Although, Mrs Sideways is usually involved!

Just the standard 240 less the escaped ponies. Not mapped, just a JR panel filter, some polybushing, cat-back exhaust etc.

[Doingitsideways]

Yeah, ok then.

Sounds like a plan that mate :)

[foammanmark]

Yeah, ok then.

Sounds like a plan that mate :)

She needs a spin( done about 1,000 miles since the MOT last Feb), so where do you think would be good to meet?

[Doingitsideways]

She needs a spin( done about 1,000 miles since the MOT last Feb), so where do you think would be good to meet?

Don't know mate to be honest. Other question is when!
I'm at the football tomorrow and I'm back in work on Monday! :(

[foammanmark]

Don't know mate to be honest. Other question is when!
I'm at the football tomorrow and I'm back in work on Monday! :(

No rush here, so later this month sometime. What part of the big smoke are you from?

[Doingitsideways]

No rush here, so later this month sometime. What part of the big smoke are you from?

Big smoke?
I always thought London was the big smoke. Maybe Manchester is the little smoke?!

I'm from Sale, currently live in Northern Moor/Whythenshawe. All south Manchester.

Where are you from, Blackburn?

I may be taking a trip over to Doncaster with Craig (TC) in a couple of weeks, so may try to bob over to you at the same time?

[foammanmark]

Big smoke?
I always thought London was the big smoke. Maybe Manchester is the little smoke?!

I'm from Sale, currently live in Northern Moor/Whythenshawe. All south Manchester.

Where are you from, Blackburn?

I may be taking a trip over to Doncaster with Craig (TC) in a couple of weeks, so may try to bob over to you at the same time?

Manchester is the big smoke to me, being from near Blackburn. I could meet you on your way to Donny, to save you coming all the way up here. M62, Woodhead/Snake pass or the likes?

[Doingitsideways]

Manchester is the big smoke to me, being from near Blackburn. I could meet you on your way to Donny, to save you coming all the way up here. M62, Woodhead/Snake pass or the likes?

Erm... Yeah.

Woodhead or Snake would be good. Even better on the right day ;)

Ok, well like I say I'm not sure when I'm going to be going yet. But with a bit of planning, I'm sure this could work ;)

[foammanmark]

Erm... Yeah.

Woodhead or Snake would be good. Even better on the right day ;)

Ok, well like I say I'm not sure when I'm going to be going yet. But with a bit of planning, I'm sure this could work ;)

I'm half an hour or justover from the M67, or less to the M62, so just let me know when suits please.

[Doingitsideways]

No worries, will do Matey :)