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Wobbly Dave
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 12:30
Diesel is dead - long live the hybrid

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/volvo-xc90-t8-revealed-2014-12-08 (http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/volvo-xc90-t8-revealed-2014-12-08)

I just hope they don't limit this powertrain to just the SUV

jdavis
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 13:01
Diesel is dead

Good Riddance!

M-R-P
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 13:14
The new 450bhp triple turbo 2.0L 4-pot has been stuffed into a S60 mule recently. Hopefully, it'll make it to production :)

I've had a rant about the T8 before - I don't care about the performance or fuel economy, a T8 should be an 8-pot with a blower. End of.

jamesy12345
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 13:18
Usually I'm against hybrids just on principle....dislike the fact that big car companies are asking us to pay for their R&D, even apart from considering the raw materials costs of the battery & drivetrain outweigh any supposed savings

but er yeah that is rather nice. I bet if you thrash it to 60 it doesn't produce only 59 g/km co2. A bit misleading to claim both in the same sentence.

y2blade
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 13:32
Lovely isn't it.

Ettienne
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 15:20
I quite like what about the £?

Wobbly Dave
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 15:59
Guess like new tech we do pay for the RND costs, but one would hope it'll get cheaper as time goes on.

y2blade
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 16:16
The new 450bhp triple turbo 2.0L 4-pot has been stuffed into a S60 mule recently. Hopefully, it'll make it to production :)

I've had a rant about the T8 before - I don't care about the performance or fuel economy, a T8 should be an 8-pot with a blower. End of.


I agree, I don't like the way Volvo have messed with the model designations lately either. :(

It should be (as it always was)
T = Turbo (Petrol)
4/5/6/8 = Number of cylinders

M-R-P
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 16:26
... and who wouldn't want a test drive in a proper T8 (thinking Noble M600 here)

y2blade
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 17:06
... and who wouldn't want a test drive in a proper T8 (thinking Noble M600 here)

The filthiest exhaust note I've ever witness firsthand

M-R-P
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 17:09
The filthiest exhaust note I've ever witness firsthand

You've never heard a Shelby Cobra with straight thru pipes then mate ;)

y2blade
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 17:30
You've never heard a Shelby Cobra with straight thru pipes then mate ;)

Nope.

M-R-P
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 18:00
Nope.

Man-crisis inducing. that is all.

The Flying Moose
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 21:12
I like it, all apart from the front end... the grill is just too big.

I'm afraid to say I once would have hated it on principle too but I've come to accept hybrid tech is here to stay. Besides if they can make a "tank" go to 60 in less than 6 seconds I think its caught up enough to start to interest the enthusiasts.

That engine in a C30 if they still made them would be pretty epic!

LiamT4
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 21:20
Usually I'm against hybrids just on principle....dislike the fact that big car companies are asking us to pay for their R&D, even apart from considering the raw materials costs of the battery & drivetrain outweigh any supposed savings

but er yeah that is rather nice. I bet if you thrash it to 60 it doesn't produce only 59 g/km co2. A bit misleading to claim both in the same sentence.

Look at the claimed mpg for the bmw i8, something like 130mpg?
I think pistonheads managed about 38mpg, which is good for its performance, but its some way of 130mpg.................

M-R-P
Tuesday 9th December 2014, 23:14
Look at the claimed mpg for the bmw i8, something like 130mpg?
I think pistonheads managed about 38mpg, which is good for its performance, but its some way of 130mpg.................
Had a look around one at a pistonheads meet and there's a lot of R and D gone into it but 100k quid? Like f#@k.

AndysR
Wednesday 10th December 2014, 00:03
The new 450bhp triple turbo 2.0L 4-pot has been stuffed into a S60 mule recently. Hopefully, it'll make it to production :)

I've had a rant about the T8 before - I don't care about the performance or fuel economy, a T8 should be an 8-pot with a blower. End of.

Agreed, but can you imagine the controversy that Volvo caused when they launched the S/V40 range, that was a nail in the coffin for the old designation entirely...

y2blade
Wednesday 10th December 2014, 08:56
Had a look around one at a pistonheads meet and there's a lot of R and D gone into it but 100k quid? Like f#@k.

I had a couple of hours in one (A good friend is pretty high-up in BMW, he had one for a weekend), amazing car
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq338/y2blade2/2014-07/A1CF8339-7167-4A3A-BB83-D28D80623441_zpsjejr1jxj.jpg