brembos under titans

[dazbooker]

new it could be done
heres a photo

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h405/dazbooker/20141130_134656_zps4bd9caf8.jpg (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/dazbooker/media/20141130_134656_zps4bd9caf8.jpg.html)

320mm discs and brembo Renault calipers

[oblark]

What size discs are you using ?

[dazbooker]

What size discs are you using ?
it says mate 320mm

[Ettienne]

new it could be done
heres a photo

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h405/dazbooker/20141130_134656_zps4bd9caf8.jpg (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/dazbooker/media/20141130_134656_zps4bd9caf8.jpg.html)

320mm discs and brembo Renault calipers

I know did it last year, I know (pretty sure) exactly how you did it as well.

[dazbooker]

here a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqwx_rEeMT8&feature=youtu.be

this is just a trial fit
now I know they fit ill get the brackets made and shallower bolts to hold the caliper to the bracket as I had to shamfer the heads to clear the wheels
and the longer brake hoses

[dazbooker]

I know did it last year, I know (pretty sure) exactly how you did it as well.

no wheel spacers and no grinding of caliper or wheel

[Ettienne]

I really do know!!

[deathrider311271]

one question how are you now going to balance your wheels without wrecking the rims?

[Ettienne]

Done it donkeys ago, made several kits up. Like I said I know how you did it as it's similar to my way, there nothing secret about it. You moved the disc inboard, I,e renault disc same stud pattern.

[dazbooker]

thought it would have been but people were saying that they would only go under 18s
so I had to have a go and see
took a while to fabricate the bracket
what hubs did you use on yours as there not Volvos are they as Volvos have bolts

[Ettienne]

one question how are you now going to balance your wheels without wrecking the rims?

Mine had enough clearance as I used different discs (not renault), but there are other issues moving the disc inwards, but nothing major.

I use the ash dvs brackets on 320mm with focus st calipers, it's just cheaper.

[dazbooker]

Done it donkeys ago, made several kits up. Like I said I know how you did it as it's similar to my way, there nothing secret about it. You moved the disc inboard, I,e renault disc same stud pattern.
didn't use Renault disc mate the discs are 320mm Volvo
the wheel bolted on ok a bit close minds so may add 2mm spacer just to be sure

[Ettienne]

thought it would have been but people were saying that they would only go under 18s
so I had to have a go and see
took a while to fabricate the bracket
what hubs did you use on yours as there not Volvos are they as Volvos have bolts

It is a Volvo hub, iirc I was at friends engineers and only had a bit of stud to hand and some nuts.

[dazbooker]

the wheels are balanced bud it clears the weights too

[Ettienne]

No my mistake that's the prototype 740 brembo, I'll dig out the t5r one.

[dazbooker]

It is a Volvo hub, iirc I was at friends engineers and only had a bit of stud to hand and some nuts.
are you running those now then

[Ettienne]

This Is the finished 740 ones 2 years ago

[t5 pete]

Looks good I personaly would do sone trimming if it is possible on the calliper as it looks very tight also as Simon has mentioned if your wheels need stick on weights in the centre along the spokes theres going to be no chance on fitting them, its the same with the v50 320mm brake kit i believe unsing the v50 calipers
Heres how the clearance looks on the original Volvo 320 kit looks
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/20140717_142005_zps5e964b14.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/20140717_142230_zpscd06c811.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/20140717_142221_zps5ad3c1f6.jpg

[dazbooker]

Looks good I personal would do so trimming if it is possible on the calliper and it looks very tight also as Simon has mentioned if your wheels need stick on weight in the centre along the pokes there going to be no chance on fitting them, its the same with the v50 320mm brake kit i believe
Heres how the clearance looks on the original Volvo 320 kit looks
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/20140717_142005_zps5e964b14.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/20140717_142230_zpscd06c811.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/20140717_142221_zps5ad3c1f6.jpg

I thought the balance weights would be a problem but luckly not
don't know wether to paint them though quite like them in silver

[Ettienne]

are you running those now then

I have made 7-10 sets up, all sorts, but drive a v70r as a daily with p2 330mm 4 pots on each corner so don't bother, but I'll fit a set on the gul front and rear, xc90 rears or porsche 4 pots.

Just Made some up for my 940, which fit under steelies with no spacer 17s

[dazbooker]

This Is the finished 740 ones 2 years ago
looks great buddy
did you do this on the t5 too

[Ettienne]

Yep, I think there is some pics floating about but I was the first to use the renault brembo calipers.

Ive done 2 types of brembo 4 pot on 350mm and various brembos on:
Xc90 336mm
Xc90 316s
S60 320mm
S60r 330s

Rears 308s and 330s on brembo 4 pots or single pots including awd v70r p1s

Quite literally most things, I don't use the 350s with 4 pots, as I keep cars looking standard, although one set does fit under Volans.

[dazbooker]

Yep, I think there is some pics floating about but I was the first to use the renault brembo calipers.

Ive done 2 types of brembo 4 pot on 350mm and various brembos on:
Xc90 336mm
Xc90 316s
S60 320mm
S60r 330s

Rears 308s and 330s on brembo 4 pots or single pots including awd v70r p1s

Quite literally most things, I don't use the 350s with 4 pots, as I keep cars looking standard, although one set does fit under Volans.
whats the best four pots to use on the rears

[Ettienne]

Porsche 4 pots fit well, actually Charlie's 854 t5r (my old car) has 4 pot fronts and rears on it (I forgot about that).

[oblark]

Porsche 4 pots fit well, actually Charlie's 854 t5r (my old car) has 4 pot fronts and rears on it (I forgot about that).

Fronts

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/VOLVO%20854%20T5R/20130716_173547.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/VOLVO%20854%20T5R/20130716_173547.jpg.html)

Rears

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/VOLVO%20854%20T5R/20130716_173555.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/VOLVO%20854%20T5R/20130716_173555.jpg.html)

[dazbooker]

Fronts

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/VOLVO%20854%20T5R/20130716_173547.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/VOLVO%20854%20T5R/20130716_173547.jpg.html)

Rears

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/VOLVO%20854%20T5R/20130716_173555.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/VOLVO%20854%20T5R/20130716_173555.jpg.html)

looks cool are you running the pegs on that car

[Ettienne]

17 pegs.

[dazbooker]

17 pegs.

which car were they on

[Ettienne]

didn't use Renault disc mate the discs are 320mm Volvo
the wheel bolted on ok a bit close minds so may add 2mm spacer just to be sure

It's not feesible to use the 320mm, you have to pull the caliper in from the edge, plus clearance issues are just too close (I find) to be safe.

You should try a 316mm if you going to do it allows more clearance.

But you've just said you may use a spacer, I'll dig out pics of the clearance with my set up I've got 10-12mm from the spokes or castings on the wheel, so more than enough to be a safe margin.

The 350s I have made, (under Volans, no spacers etc) have similar clearance to your set up and I'm on the fence about using them due to clearance. Although I'll revisit that in the summer.

[Avinitlarge]

Ive got Renault Brembo's and 320mm P2 discs. My wheels are 17" comets, everything is ready to fit, no idea how it will go though, Never did a dummy fit on the car.

[Ettienne]

Ive got Renault Brembo's and 320mm P2 discs. My wheels are 17" comets, everything is ready to fit, no idea how it will go though, Never did a dummy fit on the car.

I doubt it will fit as I tried 7 and 7.5j comets before, but as always it's close just depending on if you want a safety margin / spacer etc.

From what I remember they actually physically touch

[Ettienne]

I've just made some 320mm p2 large piston calipers fit under my 17 steelies on the 940 and accidentally made an adaptor bracket to allow running p2 brakes on it inc s60r 330s

Worth noting its the same mounting pattern just different offset to the 850s, I'll offer it up when I get a minute

[t5 pete]

Opps wrong thread

[Ettienne]

Had an hour or so today, so hopefully fixed the clearance issue for 350mm brembo 4 pots under Volans (no spacer).

Someone has my mock up hub so can't check until I buy a spare, but problem should be solved.

[AshDVS]

Renault Brembos under Titans look great!
I'd be conscious of clearance with wheel weights though, personally, I wouldn't take to a caliper with a grinder or a file. If you need to do that, you're using the wrong caliper for the application.
Pete's oem 320mm brakes are really neat too and are one of those unusual factory options that were fairly uncommon - probably less common even than the AP 5200 calipers and rotors that could have been opted for when new.

The S40/V50T5 AWD & LS-LV Ford Focus ST conversion is a nice and simple conversion if, like me, you just really want to stay with a factory 17" wheel - if you can or want to go bigger, the options open up significantly.
It's not the conversion you'd choose if your car is destined solely for track day duties - for that you'd use a 'real' 4 or 6 piston caliper, rather than a sliding type. It is however, a massive improvement over the 280mm and 302mm factory options and, with good pads and rotors, will be happy enough to do some track work.

Here's a pic of the caliper and rotor mounted -
http://i.imgur.com/bVXK7Kc.jpg?1

Clearance with a 17" 'Propus C' wheel -
http://www.dvs.net.au/misc/3206.jpg

Clearance with a 17" 'Titan' wheel -
http://i.imgur.com/4IY9Jf2.jpg?1

Stick-on weights located on the inside of the spokes will not clear, however they would if they were stuck on in the 'open area' between the spokes (though this would be fairly ugly) and an even better idea would be clamp-on/punch-on weights on the rear rim lip.

For reference, here's how they fill out a 19" rim in comparison to the factory volvo options.

280mm rotors with standard calipers. Aftermarket 19" wheel. C70 -
http://i.imgur.com/FJA0igc.jpg

302mm rotors with standard calipers. Aftermarket 19" wheel. C70 -
http://i.imgur.com/yngz4wJ.jpg

320mm rotors with calipers sourced from LS-LV Ford Focus XR5 (ST to those of you in the UK). Aftermarket 19" wheel. C70 -
http://i.imgur.com/F0GhH7e.jpg

[Ettienne]

I just made up a bracket to use existing 850 caliper on 316s. Fits under titans etc will post up pics once I've fiddled a bit more.

[claymore]

http://i.imgur.com/F0GhH7e.jpg

Them wheels would look mint on my car with the 380mm rotors.

[Ettienne]

Them wheels would look mint on my car with the 380mm rotors.

I doubt they'd fit, they are big 380mm!

[claymore]

I doubt they'd fit, they are big 380mm!

They fit under my Jag 19" wheels.

[Ettienne]

They fit under my Jag 19" wheels.

Show off:haha:

[AshDVS]

Them wheels would look mint on my car with the 380mm rotors.

I'm not sure that 380mm rotors would fit under there actually. They might, but it'd be very tight!


I doubt they'd fit, they are big 380mm!

Maybe depending on the caliper being used?


They fit under my Jag 19" wheels.

The fact that they're off a jag is reason enough not to use them. ;)

[claymore]

The fact that they're off a jag is reason enough not to use them. ;)

I don't agree.

380mm under 19" wheel:

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u258/claymore2k/T10%20Projects/20141206_153935.jpg (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/claymore2k/media/T10%20Projects/20141206_153935.jpg.html)

[AshDVS]

Argggh!
My eyes!

[claymore]

Argggh!
My eyes!
Give me yours then :)

[AshDVS]

Give me yours then :)

Realistically, if you'd told me they were from something other than a jag, I'd probably like them. ;)
Wheel style is speculative anyway, in your case it's function over form. They need to fit over your brakes, plain and simple. These fit, therefore they're ideal!

[Avinitlarge]

I doubt it will fit as I tried 7 and 7.5j comets before, but as always it's close just depending on if you want a safety margin / spacer etc.

From what I remember they actually physically touch

Ive just tried them with my comets, No go, Need about 10mm spacers

[Ettienne]

Ive just tried them with my comets, No go, Need about 10mm spacers

Done it a few times, I've sorted mine now to fit under titans on 312mm no spacers, so that's good enough for me.

But I don't make any brakes as I'm done with fixing them just fiddling with my 940

[Avinitlarge]

Bought a set of Pegs, they fit now :D
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y233/Avinitlarge/Volvo%20V70R/Pegs/36747DCE-6C2B-4B8B-AB66-FF54AA435E2B.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Avinitlarge/media/Volvo%20V70R/Pegs/36747DCE-6C2B-4B8B-AB66-FF54AA435E2B.jpg.html)

[Ettienne]

Titans have always been awkward for space

[Avinitlarge]

Thats why I went straight for Pegs. Just wanted something that would go straight on and leave a decent gap.

Any suggestions for rear upgrades? I was looking at Merc ML twinpot brembos.

[Ettienne]

Xc90 rear discs 308mm and vented, use xc90 calipers, make bracket I have one here rob made a while back after I started using the 308s with Porsche calipers (wanted something cheap).

or Porsche 911 / boxster calipers work well, used these for a while, more braking force than 302mm fronts, I made these up a few years back.

Or s60r rears on 330s I have these as well with brackets, just not sure what I. Fitting to the olive yet.

I have 4 or 5 different front set ups to use ill most likely pop on the 316mm discs with standard front calipers (on bracket) to get the olive through mot, then decide from there.