My v70 r nightmare

[Craigtange]

Hi all,

Ok where to begin. I have been through 2 engines in my car, and both suffered from a cracked liner. The first engine had 150k on it so fair enough and the second (reconditioned) engine from evolv spares, Preston with 50k on it. My car has the elevate air box with Graeme's 3" intake pipe and his 200cell cat flowing through a ipd 3" oval cat back exhaust. I haven't had the car re-mapped yet. Is this enough to destroy 2 engines or am I just unlucky. The financial hole I am throwing money into is getting crazy. I am willing to roll the dice one more time before I do street fighter bonus round on this car. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated

Thanks Craig

It's a 2005 v70 r

[Harvey]

Shim the block it's worked for a couple of engines on here.

[claymore]

If you put another engine in, just make sure you shim the liners first, or you could shim the liners on the block you've just cracked if you have the head off already.

EDIT: to slow...lol

[Harvey]

Or spend spend.

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?54590-Has-anyone-had-Darton-Liners-fitted-in-the-uk&highlight=V70r+shim

[oblark]

Shim the block it's worked for a couple of engines on here.

Ettienne shimmed his split liner and has no problems seens.

[volvokid]

Yeah I would go for the shimming before a new one, the 2.5 really is the ££££test engine Volvo has made for the performance cars, I actually wish that someone would take them to court lol.

[Ettienne]

Definitely shimming it's very easy to do, mine been fine since and it's all town work in traffic in the summer heat, not lost a drop of coolant.

[volvokid]

Can any garage do this or is it a machine shop job? I want it but I'm scared they reck my engine.

[Harvey]

Can any garage do this or is it a machine shop job? I want it but I'm scared they reck my engine.

If they can change a head gasket,should be fine.

[claymore]

Can any garage do this or is it a machine shop job? I want it but I'm scared they reck my engine.
Any one could do it once the head is off, it's just a case of putting some shims of aluminum or stainless steel between the liners, it only takes 10 minutes.

[volvokid]

Ok Harvey the reason I asked was because I got told the guy on t5d5 was the only one that could really do it, sorry can't remember his name

[claymore]

Ok Harvey the reason I asked was because I got told the guy on t5d5 was the only one that could really do it, sorry can't remember his name

Tim Williams

[volvokid]

So its definitely worth it would you say? Just always wairy of stuff like this

[volvokid]

Tim Williams

Correct, I even got a price from him and it wasn't that expensive at all.

[claymore]

So its definitely worth it would you say? Just always wairy of stuff like this

It's basically preventative maintenance.

[Ettienne]

I used my local Indy to replace the head gasket, I shimmed the liners it's not hard to do.

[volvokid]

It's basically preventative maintenance.
That's exactly my thinking! Yeah I want this done

[Craigtange]

I looked at this thread before on shimming. Looks a little complicated. There was a discussion to whether they should be flush or raised....blah blah blah. Does anyone have contact details for this guy. Is he able to travel to Preston to do this or do I have to remove the block and send it to him. To be honest I think I have had enough. What is the point of having 300bhp if you cant use them because the bottom end design is ££££. :(

[Craigtange]

I used my local Indy to replace the head gasket, I shimmed the liners it's not hard to do.

Hi there, thanks for the input do you have guidelines on how to do this. Where to get the materials etc.

[claymore]

Hi there, thanks for the input do you have guidelines on how to do this. Where to get the materials etc.

just use some feeler gauges to find out the size of your slots, cut some strips of aluminum or stainless steel the right thickness and push into the slots, job done.

Before:

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u258/claymore2k/20130311_112742-1.jpg (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/claymore2k/media/20130311_112742-1.jpg.html)

After:

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u258/claymore2k/20130312_130533.jpg (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/claymore2k/media/20130312_130533.jpg.html)

[oblark]

Here`s one I did earlier :)

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/Project%20ME7/20140826_172803.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/volvo%20850%20t5/Project%20ME7/20140826_172803.jpg.html)

[Craigtange]

Hey, guys thanks very much for that info, It does look easier than expected, I assume it has to be a snug fit to hold it in place.

[Redbrick]

I'll PM you the contact details of Tim Williams, he is based in Coalville. He has shimmed hundreds of Focus ST's and built and mapped my current engine in my 850, which is also shimmed ;) many of us in the Volvo community use him.

[Craigtange]

I'll PM you the contact details of Tim Williams, he is based in Coalville. He has shimmed hundreds of Focus ST's and built and mapped my current engine in my 850, which is also shimmed ;) many of us in the Volvo community use him.

Do you think he would travel to do it or would I need to get the bottom end down to him, logistically it will be pretty difficult as the car is in Preston just now and I live in Aberdeen. ( currently offshore in the Indian Ocean) looks like it could be easy enough to do. What do you think? Thanks for info.

[Redbrick]

Do you think he would travel to do it or would I need to get the bottom end down to him, logistically it will be pretty difficult as the car is in Preston just now and I live in Aberdeen. ( currently offshore in the Indian Ocean) looks like it could be easy enough to do. What do you think? Thanks for info.

I know he does travel so make contact and ask the question.

[Craigtange]

Sorry again guys, I assume I will have to get a reconditioned block or second hand one as my liner is cracked already. I think to replace a liner is silly money.

This is probably a silly question.

[stribo]

Sorry again guys, I assume I will have to get a reconditioned block or second hand one as my liner is cracked already. I think to replace a liner is silly money.

This is probably a silly question.

Engines with split liners can be shimmed, and although Tim, or others won't guarantee them, the success rate is very good.

[claymore]

Sorry again guys, I assume I will have to get a reconditioned block or second hand one as my liner is cracked already. I think to replace a liner is silly money.

This is probably a silly question.
If you read back, you will see that both Ettienne and myself had split liners and shimming them repaired them .

[claymore]

Sorry again guys, I assume I will have to get a reconditioned block or second hand one as my liner is cracked already. I think to replace a liner is silly money.

This is probably a silly question.
Was that post a mistake? if not, the answer is no, you don't need another block :)

[Craigtange]

Was that post a mistake? if not, the answer is no, you don't need another block :)

Yeah sorry I posted twice ��

[Craigtange]

Thanks very much for all the help guys, I will try and contact tim tomorrow. Glad there is a distant glow of light at the end of the tunnel :) I think I will get it shimmed and then re-mapped. Hopefully that will be the end of the problems for a while.

[Craigtange]

If you read back, you will see that both Ettienne and myself had split liners and shimming them repaired them .

Hi there. Sorry 1 last question.

I haven't seen my block yet and where the crack is situated. I assume it is in the area where you put the shims. Would it still be ok to shim if the crack is somewhere other than this.

Thanks craig

[claymore]

Hi there. Sorry 1 last question.

I haven't seen my block yet and where the crack is situated. I assume it is in the area where you put the shims. Would it still be ok to shim if the crack is somewhere other than this.

Thanks craig

they only ever split where you need to shim as it's a weak point.

[LeeT5]

Good luck getting hold of him!

[volvokid]

Good luck getting hold of him!
I felt like bringing you Into this post but it wasn't my place

[stribo]

Good luck getting hold of him!

Yeah, not an easy man to reach.