S80 questions.

[LiamT4]

Never been a big fan of the first gen s80 as the looks at the back are bit dodgy, but noticed a nice one the other day on nebs and it looked quite nice. So, knowing the earlier ones had a few issues, i was wondering if the later (2003>2006) version were any better.

Mainly

1)Do they have a strong autobox?
2)How many gears do they have?
3)Can you get more power out of the t6 with simple mods?
4)Would the engine still be reliable after some tweaking (i'm sure it would be as they're are plenty of cars out there using it.)
5)Are they RWD?

I could find these out on google, but i prefer to ask on here.

[T5frankie]

they're front wheel drive mate

[stribo]

1) I believe the later 6 speeds are stronger than the 5 speed.
2) See 1
3) You could probably remap it, to up boost, but the power will be limited more by the autobox, too much power and the 'box will lunch itself.
4) As long as they're sensible mods there should be no problem with reliability.
5) No, it's FWD.

If you can find one, they put the V8 in the S80. ;)

[T5frankie]

nice

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/F~oAAOSwPe1UEGfs/$_57.JPG

[Santa]

I drive Benny's every so often. (Though its a manual and a Diesel).

Its a nice car, just don't feel you get the "step up" from S60 to S80 that you get from BMW 3 to 5 series.

[Harvey]

Sure the T6 - auto in the XC90 is very best avoided . :cuckoo:

The gear box I think is A GM box the same which is best to avoid if I was you.

[LiamT4]

What is it with volvo and wimpy autos??

Weak box and fwd............i'm ooooot. Nevermind, guess i'll have to stick with ze germans.

[LiamT4]

nice

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/F~oAAOSwPe1UEGfs/$_57.JPG

looks just like the one i spotted the other day.

[merc85]

Ive heard of a s80 t6 munching its auto box every 40k :(

[stribo]

What is it with volvo and wimpy autos??

Weak box and fwd............i'm ooooot. Nevermind, guess i'll have to stick with ze germans.

Or buy a Mustang. :D

[M-R-P]

Ive heard of a s80 t6 munching its auto box every 40k :(

The 2009 onward models take 80-90k lol

[merc85]

The 2009 onward models take 80-90k lol

oh thats handy then lol

[M-R-P]

oh thats handy then lol

That's why an ex plod with 120k is a good bet... awd, auto and theres at least 30k left in it before it drops it's guts lol

[Ettienne]

The 2009 onward models take 80-90k lol

If it's the tf80sc then don't worry so much about the box as they are tons better than the old ones, seen them doing 200k that's on the v8 xc90!

Mines on 145k and still fine, did a flush and adaptation (very easy to do) and that's about it. Same box used in the polestar, gm and earlier boxes are rubbish.

I wonder how many clutches / flywheels and large labour charges non autos go through to get to 200k.

If you can afford it go for the later shape or 05 up, make sure gearbox number starts 06j as these have the latest valve body, which are also much much better.

[The Flying Moose]

Wow S80 V8 Autotrader... one result!

Rare care, lovely engine too :)

As for the lump, surely if Noble can shove it in an M600 and shed fettle it to 650hp there's some work that can be done...

[Doingitsideways]

Ive heard of a s80 t6 munching its auto box every 40k :(

SERIOUSLY tempting fate here, but my 4 speed gaytronic is still going strong at 130k.

Although I only occasionally give it a load of stick... Have you seen how many yards T6s do to the gallon!! ;)

[LiamT4]

SERIOUSLY tempting fate here, but my 4 speed gaytronic is still going strong at 130k.

Although I only occasionally give it a load of stick... Have you seen how many yards T6s do to the gallon!! ;)

4spd? Is that one of the early s80s?

[Doingitsideways]

4spd? Is that one of the early s80s?

Yeah.

Mine's a 52 plate, so one of the last I think before they changed to the 5 speed. But a 2.9 as opposed to the earlier 2.8 with the same power. Bit of a weird one.

They are reasonably quick to be honest, but feel completely different to a T5 as there is absolutely no lag whatsoever on account of the two tiny turbos.

They only run about 4psi... Aww, bless!

I'm dying to get it mapped, but don't fancy changing the 'box every weekend! :(

[Ettienne]

You can just manual convert these with any m56 or 66 box. But isn't the 4sp the gm box

[Doingitsideways]

Yeah, the 4 speed is the GM 'box I think.

I didn't think you could really convert the 6 pots, on account of there being zero space for a gearbox that's not made of chocolate! :(

[Ettienne]

Yeah, the 4 speed is the GM 'box I think.

I didn't think you could really convert the 6 pots, on account of there being zero space for a gearbox that's not made of chocolate! :(

The original prototype volvo made was a s80 t6 manual m56 box, yes it can be done iirc the m56 was at one point the worlds smallest production gearbox (mass production) or something similar. It's probable ya bit smaller than the auto box.

[Ettienne]

VOLVO S80. THE WORLD’S SMALLEST MANUAL GEARBOX
The combination of front-wheel drive and a transverse six-cylinder engine with high performance calls for an extremely compact gearbox.

There are two years of development work behind Volvo‘s new manual gearbox, the M65, which is one of the shortest in the world.

The new five-speed M65 has four shafts and is no less than 56 mm shorter than the previous record-holder – Volvo‘s M56, which was introduced in 1991 in the Volvo 850.

The Volvo S80 is also equipped with a specially-developed compact and robust, four-speed automatic for the six-cylinder, transverse engines. This gearbox adapts the gear-changing pattern to the driving style of the driver. The winter mode (W) guarantees improved starting capability on slippery surfaces

In the Volvo S80 T6, the automatic gearbox features a Geartronic function which enables the driver to change gear manually. This results in smooth adaptation to individual driving styles.

The automatic gearboxes for the five-cylinder turbocharged engines are also adapted and equipped with the winter mode (W).

There are a number of other factors which contribute to top-class driving characteristics and sound comfort.

As a result of its modern design, the S80 has a very torsionally-stiff body.
The chassis are characterised by a precision-adapted balance between comfort and dynamic driving characteristics, a mixture which gives the driver a wonderful feeling of total control.
Related page: Volvo S80 Original Press Release

[Doingitsideways]

Hmm...

Giving me lots of silly ideas here!!

[Ettienne]

Bearing in mind diesel boxes also fit

[jamesy12345]

well it's obvious to me - T6 engine into the Ray the 460, body of the T6 a climbing frame for the bairn

Job done!

[Ettienne]

You laugh but look at this, remember pretty much all the boxes and engines are interchangeable.

[Ettienne]

Oh it's a v8 s40 project volvo car, oh how we'd queue for this one. I think they were awd as well.

[Ettienne]

May as well whilst talking about the v8 s40, here's a link to the s40r prototype (not Volvo)

http://www.europeancarweb.com/features/epcp_0804_2005_volvo_s40_t5/