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Ettienne
Thursday 28th August 2014, 14:16
I may need a new lambda as the p2r seems a bit heavy on fuel and looking briefly into it service intervals on the lambda is 100k.

I read recently someone used a pattern lambda, any ideas, just throwing it out there, do I change both? Are they the same etc.

Any help appreciated.

Oh and what's the connection on them called?

stribo
Thursday 28th August 2014, 14:24
I may need a new lambda as the p2r seems a bit heavy on fuel and looking briefly into it service intervals on the lambda is 100k.

I read recently someone used a pattern lambda, any ideas, just throwing it out there, do I change both? Are they the same etc.

Any help appreciated.

Oh and what's the connection on them called?

The front and rear ones have different connectors, no idea what they're called though.

oblark
Thursday 28th August 2014, 14:31
The front and rear ones have different connectors, no idea what they're called though.

Plugs :hilarious

stribo
Thursday 28th August 2014, 15:48
Plugs :hilarious

Dick :P Obviously they're plugs, but the fact Etienne was asking leads me to think they're special plugs.;)

Ettienne
Thursday 28th August 2014, 15:56
I think the type of connector word begins with a z?

V70 Graham
Thursday 28th August 2014, 16:33
I think the type of connector word begins with a z?

Those would be the French ones....ze plug !

Sperm1980
Thursday 28th August 2014, 16:55
Hi,

I may be wrong but I think the manufacturer of those plugs are called 'Deutsch'. Spelling is correct and as far as im aware pronounced 'Doit-chz' plugs.

Could be wrong but we use that type of plug on vehicles produced as they are weather/element proof.

Cheers

Paul

T5RatherAmusin
Thursday 28th August 2014, 17:05
are you thinking of zirconia?

JamesT5
Thursday 28th August 2014, 17:07
Use genuine O2 sensors, that's best. They can be a awkward to get out of the of the exhaust though and if you're fuel economy is bad then it's very likely the front O2 sensor, this measures the mixture coming out of the manifold.

Parts For Volvo's sell the sensors, IIRC they're around £115 each (without checking). You can also be sure of the right part ordering it from PFV.

Hope that helps. :)

JamesT5
Thursday 28th August 2014, 17:08
Forgot to say, it's 21 or 22 mm spanner to take the O2 sensor out.

Ettienne
Thursday 28th August 2014, 17:25
Thanks guys

I'll have a look at the Bosch number and see if I can find one.

There was a chap on here who did the same recently I'll bump the thread and pm him

dant5r
Thursday 28th August 2014, 17:36
Its a 22mm spanner or you mite be better off with a lambda socket.

martindzh
Thursday 28th August 2014, 22:37
Hi Ettienne. I got mine from here http://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/volvo-s60/s60-saloon/18224/10893
Martin

M-R-P
Thursday 28th August 2014, 22:47
Got mine out with a 22mm open spanner and a sharp "technical tap" from a hammer.

JamesT5
Thursday 28th August 2014, 22:50
Got mine out with a 22mm open spanner and a sharp "technical tap" from a hammer.

Tried taking mine out about 3 months ago and got nowhere, it was seized. The service interval is 160K miles according to the research I've done.

Ettienne
Thursday 28th August 2014, 22:50
I had a spare pair with 90k on in a spare s60r cat, so I heated them and a quick tap with hammer and 22mm spanner and they are free, I'll give them a try as 55k less miles, see if there is a difference.

Ettienne
Thursday 28th August 2014, 22:52
Tried taking mine out about 3 months ago and got nowhere, it was seized. The service interval is 160K miles according to the research I've done.

I think that might be 160km, everything I've seen says 100k miles.

M-R-P
Thursday 28th August 2014, 22:54
Tried taking mine out about 3 months ago and got nowhere, it was seized. The service interval is 160K miles according to the research I've done.

Pipe needs to be hot/warm to allow the lambda to free up.

JamesT5
Thursday 28th August 2014, 22:55
Pipe needs to be hot/warm to allow the lambda to free up.

Ok, next time I'll take it for a spin up around the bypass and get it nice and hot. Then put gloves on to whip it out.

graemewelch
Thursday 28th August 2014, 22:56
Ive got a rear one. Bosch new and 2 good used ones. Pm me if any good

Ettienne
Thursday 28th August 2014, 22:57
Thanks Graeme I've found some low miles ones in workshop.

M-R-P
Thursday 28th August 2014, 22:57
Ok, next time I'll take it for a spin up around the bypass and get it nice and hot. Then put gloves on to whip it out.

Yep, give it 10 minutes to cool a little as there's not many places to put your arms where they won't get burned.

T5RatherAmusin
Friday 29th August 2014, 09:51
a hot air gun will get it hot enough to remove ;)

960kg
Friday 29th August 2014, 10:41
There is no service maintenance from Volvo for O2 sensors as they give there best between 60 and 100,000 miles......should change both at the same time as they wear at the same rate.......most think that the front sensor is the only one that is important for fuel but the rear one communicates with the front one apart from checking the cats. efficiency and tells the front one to further fine trim the fuel........... wait for the emissions light or fuel economy and performance is bad!

Ettienne
Friday 29th August 2014, 11:26
Thanks I've had the light on but that was for an air leak, it's economy is the worst I've had, I'll try the matched pair of lambdas I have and see how that works out.

LeeT5
Friday 29th August 2014, 18:21
Parts for Volvo sell the front one. Bosch unit with OE sleeving and relevant clips.

Part# 0258007137 - £94.32 inc vat.

PFV ref: PFV908215.

Ettienne
Tuesday 2nd September 2014, 19:37
Checked my tyre pressures today (cold) 25-27 psi, may explain a little.

I've pumped them up to 36psi, should improv things slightly

LeeT5
Wednesday 3rd September 2014, 10:18
Checked my tyre pressures today (cold) 25-27 psi, may explain a little.

I've pumped them up to 36psi, should improv things slightly

err, that will improve things massively, let alone slightly!

You should check your tyre pressures more frequently.

Ettienne
Wednesday 3rd September 2014, 16:46
I had new tyres fitted and trusted the fitter to put correct pressure in, maybe there gauge was drastically out.

I have a digital gauge from when I used track ride bikes, very accurate but the asda digital pump is very good as well as I've compared the,.