Which coilovers?

[Wobbly Dave]

I've always been dead set against them for the harsh ride they give on the road, however I think my car has already passed the point of no return, where any aspect of GT comfort is lost, since going down the GTX route with the turbo.

Just thinking out loud really & wondering which brand to get. Should I stick with Bilstein? My Bilstein B4s are about mid-life/ perhaps a little over.

And the other think is I wanted a lower stance/centre of gravity.

[Plodmonkey]

Paid £670 for mine and fantastic comfort on soft to breaking your back on hard

http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/br-series-coilovers

[MoleT-5R]

I think its time I started tucking a little bit to one side and getting myself something like that, as the handling department is lacking something as present

[WOODY T5]

Paid £670 for mine and fantastic comfort on soft to breaking your back on hard

http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/br-series-coiloversgot these on my car great bit of kit at a good price :)

[Shinsplintz 101]

I've got gaz golds on mine, they're past their best so the rides a bit harsh but when you unleash the beast it feels like the old car is on rails. Will be upgrading in the near future once funds allow & after much research will be getting a set of KWs. BCs get good reviews from those that have them & are good value, the gaz gold are good but a bit delicate for general road use & the KWs although the most money seem give the best of both worlds, reasonable comfort with great handling. I'm working on the principle you get what you pay for & it still only works out about £350 a corner for th KWs so not too bad :)

[T5RPete]

got these on my car great bit of kit at a good price :)

Get those BC Racing ones. Deans car certainly does handle!! It was the set I was looking at for mine purely for that reason.

[Wobbly Dave]

Get those BC Racing ones. Deans car certainly does handle!! It was the set I was looking at for mine purely for that reason.

Is there any reason to prefer the External reservoir ones ?

[Plodmonkey]

Is there any reason to prefer the External reservoir ones ?

Looks rather cool

[Redbrick]

Dave I'm sure you remember my red R on KW's. ROFL. Trust me the set on my silver T5 are infinitely better than those!

The newer KW's on my silver T5 are different to the set on my red R. They have changed the design over the years deleting the helper springs and presumably changing the spring rating/design, I called KW to check they weren't missing and they confirmed they no longer come with them. The other point is the red R was slammed and ran 18's with 35 profile tyres. The silver R is lower than standard but not slammed and I run 235/40 17 tyres.

Greg had BC coilovers and is now running KW's. Food for thought!

I'm at the MRG/T5D5 track day at Castle Combe next Friday, come on down and have some passenger laps. That invitation is to everyone on here as well. :eclipsee_

[S70T5Chris]

Dave I'm sure you remember my red R on KW's. ROFL. Trust me the set on my silver T5 are infinitely better than those!

The newer KW's on my silver T5 are different to the set on my red R. They have changed the design over the years deleting the helper springs and presumably changing the spring rating/design, I called KW to check they weren't missing and they confirmed they no longer come with them. The other point is the red R was slammed and ran 18's with 35 profile tyres. The silver R is lower than standard but not slammed and I run 235/40 17 tyres.

Greg had BC coilovers and is now running KW's. Food for thought!

I'm at the MRG/T5D5 track day at Castle Combe next Friday, come on down and have some passenger laps. That invitation is to everyone on here as well. :eclipsee_

Greg had the original V1' BC's though. Not the same as the BR series.

I had the BR series BC Coilovers on my S70, and that is what I'll be fitting on my 850. Incredible value for money, they work extremely well, and the ride comfort is not overly compromised. When you take into account the new top mounts (fronts are camber adjustable), @ less than £700, they are a steal.

If money isn't a consideration, the new style Variant 2's are the daddy. Whilst maintaining superb handling, Mr Williams commented that on a day to day basis they ride just like a new modern car on the road. So I suppose you couldn't ask for better. But once you factor in new top mounts, they are over twice the price of the BC's. As much as I piss money away on my cars, it's not worth it IMO.

[Redbrick]

Greg had the original V1' BC's though. Not the same as the BR series.


Good point Chris.

[stribo]

Paid £670 for mine and fantastic comfort on soft to breaking your back on hard

http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/br-series-coilovers

They look like excellent value for money, may have to upgrade when I have the money.

[t5 pete]

I think the gul will be getting a set of these as im sure ill soon get fed up of the original handling

[WOODY T5]

Yep great all round pete have mine on 7 to 10 clicks for the road then just keep adjusting them for track or 1/4mile runs

[stribo]

Yep great all round pete have mine on 7 to 10 clicks for the road then just keep adjusting them for track or 1/4mile runs

So if I get a set will I get in the 13s in the C70? :D

[WOODY T5]

So if I get a set will I get in the 13s in the C70? :Dno end of ;)

[Jamest5r]

Yep great all round pete have mine on 7 to 10 clicks for the road then just keep adjusting them for track or 1/4mile runs

Set of them and a diff are the next things on my shopping list :)

[stribo]

no end of ;)

You shouldn't have said that, Frankie told me I wouldn't get in the 14s, and guess what. :D

[WOODY T5]

14s are easy tho.

[Wobbly Dave]

There are 2 types for my model year - which one?

http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/applications/volvo-coilovers/volvo-s70-c70-v70-p1-97-00-850-855/br-series-coilover-type-ra-1.html

[stribo]

There are 2 types for my model year - which one?

http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/applications/volvo-coilovers/volvo-s70-c70-v70-p1-97-00-850-855/br-series-coilover-type-ra-1.html

Looks like the second set are stiffer on the rear, if you'll pardon the expression. ;)

[Wobbly Dave]

Dave I'm sure you remember my red R on KW's. ROFL. Trust me the set on my silver T5 are infinitely better than those!

The newer KW's on my silver T5 are different to the set on my red R. They have changed the design over the years deleting the helper springs and presumably changing the spring rating/design, I called KW to check they weren't missing and they confirmed they no longer come with them. The other point is the red R was slammed and ran 18's with 35 profile tyres. The silver R is lower than standard but not slammed and I run 235/40 17 tyres.

Greg had BC coilovers and is now running KW's. Food for thought!

I'm at the MRG/T5D5 track day at Castle Combe next Friday, come on down and have some passenger laps. That invitation is to everyone on here as well. :eclipsee_

I'd love to come but I am severely restricted on movement at the moment. Perhaps next year.

[t5 pete]

Set of them and a diff are the next things on my shopping list :)

Group buy?

[Wobbly Dave]

Looks like the second set are stiffer on the rear, if you'll pardon the expression. ;)
Yeah but which one's is more appropriate?

[stribo]

Yeah but which one's is more appropriate?

The first one's, as they're in stock. ;)

[Jamest5r]

Group buy?

Worth a shout, me, you and wobbly for starters only need a couple more for some sort of deal I would imagine

[Wobbly Dave]

See if our friend Adam - of Volvaxo fame can't have a quiet word

[t5 pete]

Worth a shout, me, you and wobbly for starters only need a couple more for some sort of deal I would imagine

Yep im sure Chris said he's going to get a set

[stribo]

I'd like a set, just depends on what price can be negotiated.

[S70T5Chris]

I haven't bought mine yet. Originally they were on T5D5 as a group buy @ around £570 IIRC

[t5 pete]

I haven't bought mine yet. Originally they were on T5D5 as a group buy @ around £570 IIRC

If we could get that deal again can you remember how many were on the group buy

[S70T5Chris]

10 or so i think. May be worth someone contacting BC direct to see if they can do it again.

It was when they first developed the kit for our cars though, so they may not require as many people this time round? If they were willing of course!

[Nealevo]

Ill have some too :) if its a group buy

[Jamest5r]

10 or so i think. May be worth someone contacting BC direct to see if they can do it again.

It was when they first developed the kit for our cars though, so they may not require as many people this time round? If they were willing of course!

I think I was reading that thread today lol from 2011, can't do the link on my phone but if Google bc coilovers 850 the thread comes up for those that want a read

[Plodmonkey]

Dave I got mine from Option Auto house for £670 They may do delivery for a little more it took 2 days from order to me picking up

[Wobbly Dave]

I will make contact - and let you all know what they have to say.

[hybriduno]

I have got the ball rolling, thanks for the contact Dave, as a bc racing sponsor I have the right inside contacts ;) lol

[Saaamon]

Can only back up what Redbrick said, i have KW v2s set at a sensible ride height with them 1/4turn off full soft and there spot on, normal driving you'd never know the car was on coil overs, we've done some lengthy trips to europe driving for 20+ hours and even on poor sections of Spanish motorway its never been comfortable and certainly not harsh. As for handling its like driving my old track ready Saxo just a bit longer and heavier.

[Wobbly Dave]

Adam, I really appreciate the help. I am happy to commit the this. If anyone else is in then put your name under here.

1. Wobbly Dave
2. Jamest5r
3. Nealevo

[stribo]

1. Wobbly Dave
2. Jamest5r
3. Nealevo
4. Stribo

[t5 pete]

Just read up to about page 20 will read rest later but to cut to the chase Chris did they change the rear springs for taller ones?

[WOODY T5]

dont know on that one pete but i did but when rang them the guy did tel me about this so taller is wot i have :)

[deathrider311271]

very tempted dependant on price and time scale

[WOODY T5]

Got mine £525 delivered

[S70T5Chris]

Just read up to about page 20 will read rest later but to cut to the chase Chris did they change the rear springs for taller ones?

I can't remember TBH Pete.

I seem to remember that the first couple of sets they sent out as the test had a couple of teething problems, and they were also the not so good V1's, not the BR series. I had a set of the BR's on the S70, did loads of track days, and never had one problem.

[Wobbly Dave]

1. Wobbly Dave
2. Jamest5r
3. Nealevo
4. Stribo

Anyone else -more peeps we have - the cheaper it will be!

[T5RatherAmusin]

was talking to craig(peacey) the other day and i swear he said he got his BCs for his track v70 slag for something like £420!

[abdul]

had them on my v70 t5 found them very hard for everyday use but good on motorway

[abdul]

what would a second hand set be worth

[Wobbly Dave]

What type of BC coilovers do you have?

[t5 pete]

Anyone else -more peeps we have - the cheaper it will be!

Price depending as ide would normally have been looking at possibly getting some for when the gul is done.
Also if any one has any feed back as to what there like on the road that would be great

[t5 pete]

had them on my v70 t5 found them very hard for everyday use but good on motorway

Which series did you have Abdul and also was it still harsh on the soft setting

[Wobbly Dave]

Price depending as ide would normally have been looking at possibly getting some for when the gul is done.
Also if any one has any feed back as to what there like on the road that would be great

me too but I think that coilovers have improved a lot of the last few years. We need the numbers to get the discount

[Jamest5r]

Which series did you have Abdul and also was it still harsh on the soft setting

It will be.fine with.your fat arse :)

[t5 pete]

It will be.fine with.your fat arse :)

Douche bag

[martin_r_smith]

Me too please

1. Wobbly Dave
2. Jamest5r
3. Nealevo
4. Stribo
5. martin_r_smith

[Wobbly Dave]

I will put your name on the group buy thread

[hybriduno]

Obviously I run bc coilovers........I think there awesome. ive had cheapo's before but there's no match for quality.
Yes I know they sponsor me, but im not saying it just for the sales, as I won't benefit >< lol
And yes i would buy a set ......or should i say, will be buying a set for the next project ;)

[Wobbly Dave]

What did your sponsors say about our group buy, Adam? Did they indicate any minimum numbers & discount banding?

[MoleT-5R]

I'm in as long as the price is good... and going from his thread Adam should be able to get a cracking deal.....he says hopefully !!

1. Wobbly Dave
2. Jamest5r
3. Nealevo
4. Stribo
5. martin_r_smith
6. MoleT-5R

[Wobbly Dave]

I am beginning to regret setting up the other thread now.

[Wobbly Dave]

Stick your names down here (http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?56414-BC-Coilover-(BC-Series)-Group-Buy)

[MoleT-5R]

Stick your names down here (http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?56414-BC-Coilover-(BC-Series)-Group-Buy)

Sorry Dave,I did a WD and didn't update myself on how this thread has moved on since I left it this morning, any ideas of how long till the envisaged buy date, just for a budgeting target to work to, as it is a busy season this year, a lot of pounds in a lot of different directions, I'm still in though

[t5 pete]

Just to pi$$ dave of a little more
Put me down as a provisional on them depending on when there going to be ready to buy

[Wobbly Dave]

For your lovely custard box of shi_te I'll put you down to make up the numbers.

[abdul]

What type of BC coilovers do you have?

Bc for street and track

[abdul]

Which series did you have Abdul and also was it still harsh on the soft setting

Bc street and trck they where still hard on soft setting

[Sweep]

If it ends up being >£600 then I'd be interested, does it matter on model by the way? I'd be after some for an 850.

[stribo]

If it ends up being >£600 then I'd be interested, does it matter on model by the way? I'd be after some for an 850.

Do you not mean less than £600 ( <£600) or is that too cvheap for youy. :P

[Sweep]

Do you not mean less than £600 ( <£600) or is that too cvheap for youy. :P

Absolutely, I refuse to pay any less.

Stupid phone :P

[Wobbly Dave]

Bc for street and track
You're not really narrowing it down. BR series?

[hybriduno]

I have spoken to the top man at bc racing ;) I should have a price by Monday evening. as he's having a weekend away this weekend.......also he did say that to get the best price then shipping them over by boat is a lot cheaper than air. so this would bring the price down, but will make the process longer.
All the best Adam

[martin_r_smith]

Any joy yet?

[hybriduno]

20% discount on Volvo kits for 8+ orders based on bringing them by sea.

25% non refundable deposit paid up front.

8-10 week lead time.

Remaining 75% due 1 week before the boat docks.

Payment by debit card (no surcharge), bank transfer (no surcharge) credit card (2% surcharge) or Paypal (2% surcharge).


£615.20 inc vat, £9.20 UKL carriage

[Nealevo]

10 weeks❕❕❕❕❕ I'm out.

[claymore]

I think that's about £30 more than when T5D5 did a group buy

[stribo]

20% discount on Volvo kits for 8+ orders based on bringing them by sea.

25% non refundable deposit paid up front.

8-10 week lead time.

Remaining 75% due 1 week before the boat docks.

Payment by debit card (no surcharge), bank transfer (no surcharge) credit card (2% surcharge) or Paypal (2% surcharge).


£615.20 inc vat, £9.20 UKL carriage

I'm now out anyway, but the discount is only because they're coming by sea, and not air by the looks of it.

[Sweep]

20% is a nice chunk off, but 10 weeks is a fair old wait!

[Plodmonkey]

I payed 670 for mine and got them next day ha that's a joke also they were 760 on bc website

[Jamest5r]

I was expecting 20% ish off around the 670 mark ie 550 territory

[Plodmonkey]

You can always speak to the lad who got mine and if there is a bulk buy he may knock more money off and have them delivered to youse

[Sweep]

I payed 670 for mine and got them next day ha that's a joke also they were 760 on bc website


Not sure what site you're looking at, £684 on my screen.

[Plodmonkey]

http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/applications/volvo-coilovers/volvo-v70-s70-c70-coupe-fwd-s60-00-09/br-series-coilover-type-ra-1.html

I have a s60 plus got 14 quid of :) and didn't have to wait 10 weeks

[martin_r_smith]

I was expecting 20% ish off around the 670 mark ie 550 territory

That's the figure I had in mind too

[sye73]

That's the figure I had in mind too

agreed
i dont mind waiting fwiw, but they're too pricey

[martin_r_smith]

So what's the deal now then?

[S70T5Chris]

I'm out I'm afraid, 10 weeks is far too long for me to wait this time around. Certainly not for a £60 saving!

[Wobbly Dave]

So who if anyone is interested - I am in no rush so the lead time doesn't worry me.

[MoleT-5R]

Sorry mate, but due to a majorly large commitment that has come along in between I'm out unfortunately, I had thought this group buy had died a death on price to be fair, not that I was worried by the price, but my new suspension will have to wait a while longer now. Good luck hope you get a good deal

[Wobbly Dave]

Looks like I will have to end up buying these on my own :cry:

[MoleT-5R]

Looks like I will have to end up buying these on my own :cry:

looks like you might mate, as it's gone a bit quiet on this of late

[Wobbly Dave]

I was expecting 20% ish off around the 670 mark ie 550 territory

From the BC site they are 770 - http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/applications/volvo-coilovers/volvo-s70-c70-v70-p1-97-00-850-855/br-series-coilover-type-ra-1.html

so I didnt think £615.20 inc vat, £9.20 UKL carriage was a bad price?

[Jamest5r]

Only 680 Inc vat and delivery on corby motorsport, and the same on larkspeed, shame bc started at 100 quid more before any discount

[Wobbly Dave]

The ones on Corby are the V1 series - not the RA.

http://www.corbymotorsport.com/volvo-c70-9800-bc-racing-coilover-kit-p-8252.html

I was specifically looking at the newer model - namely the RA series, not the V1 (which I can only assume stands for version 1).

[T5RatherAmusin]

680 here
http://www.madmotors.co.uk/bc-coilovers-volvo-850-p1-92-97-br-ra-coilovers.html

might be an idea to ask them on group buy as said your already starting at a lower price...

range of volvo coilovers
http://www.madmotors.co.uk/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?limit=32&manufacturer=1169&p=11

[Wobbly Dave]

I sent them a cheeky mail

[martin_r_smith]

I called the chaps at larkspeed and the best they can do is £650 with free delivery.

[Jamest5r]

I sent them a cheeky mail

Let us know what they say, im still well interested just being a tight bastward lol

[martin_r_smith]

What he said ^^^^

[martin_r_smith]

If the delivery didn't cost the earth I'd get them here....

http://bcracingsuperstore.com/bc-racing-br-type-coilover-for-98-00-volvo-s70/

With the current exchange rate that's around £580!

[Wobbly Dave]

Well they eventually replied. Just a smidge cheaper but nothing to shout about.


Hello David,

Thank you for your enquiry and sorry for the delay

We are not fully operational until Monday, due to expansion work at our premises.


The best we can offer is £599 + £10 delivery per kit.


Please let me know if you require any further information and I will be happy to assist.


Many thanks.


Rob.

Sales.


Mad Motors Ltd.

Tel : (0044) (0)1422 330682

Email : sales@madmotors.co.uk

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[ExternalError]

Hmm id be interested at 599 starting to get fed up with the coilovers i have wrecked another top mount the other day and it looks like the passenger side one has a bit of movement

[Wobbly Dave]

Any takers at 599? Personally I'd sooner pay the manufacturer the 615 given that I can be confident that I getting the genuine article.

[Jamest5r]

I'm out for the moment, my spare monies is being spent on a.diff and.box :)

[T5RatherAmusin]

have you forwarded madmotors reply to bc to tell them you can get the same cheaper even when theres a middle man involved...

[Wobbly Dave]

have you forwarded madmotors reply to bc to tell them you can get the same cheaper even when theres a middle man involved...

I thought that would be unwise to upset the relationship between the main dealer & supplier?

[ExternalError]

Any takers at 599? Personally I'd sooner pay the manufacturer the 615 given that I can be confident that I getting the genuine article.

It would be 615 with a 10 week wait and we need 8+ people interested though, what wait is mad motors and what was the group buy numbers or is it just a straight discount and why can a 3rd party do a better deal than the manufacters. I'm interested in 599 or 615 to be honest but I dont want to wait 10 weeks as my current setup is already causing damge which is the reason for wanting to change but I dont want to wait to long and have to pay for a repair when i will be replacing the setup anyway

[Wobbly Dave]

The amount of expected VPCUK procrastination I think it will be more than 10wks. Find me 8 people willing to buy - that's where the main issue lies.

[ExternalError]

what was the mad motors group by qty was it 8+ or was it just an agreed discount price with no numbers dependent, I'll be looking to place an order somewhere between now and the end of the month, I have the cash as i was going to order a intercooler and downpipe but will get these instead as my current setup isnt great and I dont want to keep having to repair the strut mounts and spring seats.

[Wobbly Dave]

I believe it was numbers dependent, but I can check.

[Wobbly Dave]

Minimum is 5 & I double checked the version



Hello David,


Thank you for your reply.


It is the RA and we would need 5+ orders.



Please let me know if you require any further information and I will be happy to assist.


Many thanks.


Rob.

Sales.


Mad Motors Ltd.

Tel : (0044) (0)1422 330682

Email : sales@madmotors.co.uk

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[ExternalError]

well i'm in so just 3 more if your in also otherwise ill bite the bullet and get them for 680 also whats the wait time once we have 5 orders

[ExternalError]

so do we have 5 willing to get them from mad motors have the money ready now

[martin_r_smith]

so do we have 5 willing to get them from mad motors have the money ready now

I can give you a definite yes or no by the end of next week

[t5 pete]

I can give you a definite yes or no by the end of next week

you need to off load some wheels by any chance?

[Jamest5r]

you need to off load some wheels by any chance?

No he's got a wife now things take longer to blag lol

[t5 pete]

pmsl I always smile at the ill ask the Mrs comment Donna only dreams of such things lol

[MoleT-5R]

you need to off load some wheels by any chance?

but I have found a set .....and a p1800.... will have too build a larger man cave down the garden, not sure a bout the hot tub though ....lol

[t5 pete]

but I have found a set .....and a p1800.... will have too build a larger man cave down the garden, not sure a bout the hot tub though ....lol

Oh dear now I have wheel and car envy lol

[graemewelch]

Id be intrested in a set if price was around 550. If this happens someone will have to msg me or get intouch with me as im not what you call a regular on here now a days

[martin_r_smith]

No he's got a wife now things take longer to blag lol

I'm still free until Wednesday lol.

[Wobbly Dave]

Id be intrested in a set if price was around 550. If this happens someone will have to msg me or get intouch with me as im not what you call a regular on here now a days

You can't get them for 550 - you can set notifications on threads.