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chriskay
Saturday 31st May 2014, 22:10
but what are Phase 2 models?

foammanmark
Saturday 31st May 2014, 22:12
From 2000 onwards, with the 'bulging' sides. But there are also the classic models with the AWD 250bhp engines, which are referred to as p2's.

Santa
Saturday 31st May 2014, 22:13
Volvo S80 from 1999-2006. Volvo V70(R)/XC70 from 2000-2007. Volvo S60(R) from 2001 - 2007. Volvo XC90. Don't think I'm missing any.

p fandango
Saturday 31st May 2014, 22:16
but what are Phase 2 models?
P2's are the one's Ford helped with

stribo
Saturday 31st May 2014, 22:18
Must resist ;)

foammanmark
Saturday 31st May 2014, 22:22
Must resist ;)

Resist what mate?

T5frankie
Saturday 31st May 2014, 22:36
phase 2 v70'rs are 98-99 models

chriskay
Sunday 1st June 2014, 15:19
So my S60 D5 2002 is Phase 2. Pity about the Ford bit.

JamesT5
Sunday 1st June 2014, 15:29
Must resist ;)

Resistance is Futile..... :borg_ani: :borg_ani: :borg_ani:

LiamT4
Sunday 1st June 2014, 15:30
So my S60 D5 2002 is Phase 2. Pity about the Ford bit.

Yes, and it is a phase 1, phase 2 ;)

JamesT5
Sunday 1st June 2014, 15:33
Just to confuse matters further, the S80 "Phase 2" is actually an S80 Phase 1, with the 'Phase 2' S80 actually being on the "Phase 3" platform.

I understand what I meant but for the 'Lay man' - #confused.com :insane: :help:

chriskay
Sunday 1st June 2014, 19:48
Yes, and it is a phase 1, phase 2 ;)
??????????

p fandango
Sunday 1st June 2014, 19:56
Yes, and it is a phase 1, phase 2 ;)


??????????
its a pre-facelifted phase 2, the facelifted being a phase 2 phase 2 which makes yours a phase 1 phase 2. I need a drink

jamesy12345
Sunday 1st June 2014, 19:57
??????????

98 to 2006 was P2 platform, 2006+ was Ford platform....so yours is a first-generation P2 car

edit

too slow again

vote for Pedro!

p fandango
Sunday 1st June 2014, 20:01
vote for Pedro!
i've got the T-shirt with that on (ps thats not me in the picture)

https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.svpply.com/large/1795575.jpg?1401372679

jamesy12345
Sunday 1st June 2014, 20:07
i've got the T-shirt with that on (ps thats not me in the picture)

https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.svpply.com/large/1795575.jpg?1401372679

^^^http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/ubelesteph/borat.jpg

stephenevans99
Sunday 1st June 2014, 20:09
Which Phase is my D5-R?

p fandango
Sunday 1st June 2014, 20:13
Which Phase is my D5-R?
it must be the same phase as this one

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Volvo_T_25.1.jpg

stephenevans99
Sunday 1st June 2014, 20:16
pmsl....

stribo
Sunday 1st June 2014, 20:20
Resist what mate?

Resist explaining for the 1000th time how they're not Fords. ;)

p fandango
Sunday 1st June 2014, 20:22
Resist explaining for the 1000th time how they're not Fords. ;)
http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-youll-never-win.png

LiamT4
Sunday 1st June 2014, 21:04
??????????

Don't worry about it, its just that for each phase, they'll be at least one update. Facelift, update, phase, they mean the same thing really.

LeeT5
Monday 2nd June 2014, 13:40
but what are Phase 2 models?

To answer your Q, Phase 2 refers to the second phase of the P1 model which is the first shape after the 850. P1 models ran from 1997-2000. Then the later shape P2 ran from 2000-2007 (as per my sig).

There is no 'phase' for the P2 models, only facelift, which was from 2005>

P1 models had 3 phases. Phase 1, 2 and 3.
P2 models didn't. They just had facelifts.

This should help you, thou it mainly concerns the R models:

There were 3 phases of R-AWD produced between 1997 and 2000:-

Phase 1 :- were produced from 1997 till February 1999 (UK P - S reg)and were available with either the B5234T-4 (2319cc) engine (18T turbo 250bhp/350nm)and 5-speed manual gearbox or the B5234T-6 engine (16T turbo 240bhp/310nm) and 4-speed 3 mode automatic gearbox. Both engines used the Motronic 4.4 engine management system. (0-60 7.3/8.1, 152/143mph)

Phase 2 :- were produced from March 1999 (UK S - T reg) and were only available with the B5234T-8 (2319cc) engine (18T turbo 250bhp/310nm) and 4-speed adaptive automatic gearbox. These cars use the ME7 engine management system with fly-by-wire throttle and variable exhaust camshaft valve timing. (0-60 7.8 143mph)

Phase 3 :- were produced from September 1999 till March 2000 (UK V - W reg) and were only available with the larger B5244RT (2435cc) engine (19T turbo 265bhp/350nm) and 5-speed adaptive automatic gearbox. Engine used stronger internal components. These also use the ME7 engine management system, Fly-by-wire and VVT. These cars were fitted with twin tail pipes (first time Volvo fitted twin exhaust system), WHIPS" system and larger side SIPS airbags for head protection and vented rear performance disc's. (0-60 7.3 152mph)
Latest generation of Road Traffic Information Satellite Navigation used on the Phase III’s, this is the same CD based system used by Volvo up until 2003 and on the C70 till 2006.
Roof rails were changed now the same as V70XC.
Volvo sold 74 Phase III’s in the UK, split by colour:
Black stone 5
Nautic Blue Pearl 10
Dark Olive Pearl 3
Silver Metallic 17
Laser Blue Metallic 33
Venetian Red Pearl 6

Trim and spec levels remained virtually un-changed throughout the 3 phases. Trim was Leather and Alcantara in either Beige or Grey/Black with aluminium trim on the dash and console (dark wood was an option on P1 and P2 cars). On P1 cars the steering wheel was also leather/alcantara, but phase 2 and 3 had a thicker rimmed leather only wheel. Phase II and III had blue engine covers. Phase 3 cars had the option of contrasting grey/beige trim. These cars were virtually "fully-loaded" with very few options available (mainly pro-logic (£600), 6 CD boot mounted changer (£600), RTI-Satellite Navigation(£2500)) as they cost £37,000 when new.

The colours available were I think as follows :-

Phase 1 :- Saffron, Black Stone, Nautic Blue, Silver, Regency Red

Phase 2 :- Laser Blue, Black Stone, Nautic Blue Pearl, Silver Metallic, Cassis, Venetian Red Pearl, Dark Olive Green

Phase 3 :- Laser Blue, Black Stone, Nautic Blue Pearl, Silver Metallic, Venetian Red Pearl, Dark Olive Green.

After this it was onto P2 platform. Totally different car, totally different kettle of fish. Also, P2 platforms had input from Ford and only because this was the around the time ford were buying Volvo.
Ford input (sadly) didn't really come into place in its entirety until around 2007> around about the time they dropped the R models. If you pull parts off a V50 for example you will find Ford everywhere, however, you won't find any on a P2.

M-R-P
Monday 2nd June 2014, 13:55
As above.

The "P2" refers to the floorpan/chassis, also known as "N" in many countries.