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MacXC60T5
Monday 12th May 2014, 14:55
As been away for a while from Volvo I have been looking at two vehicles that I am very impressed with. I have been offered a very good price for my BMW 116i against a 2011 S60T6 and a S60T5 As I only cover 3.5 to 4k per year mpg is not a problem the T6 has every conceivale extra Volvo could fit as it was an ex management car with 36k. The T5 is Dec 2010 has done 6k only so as new. What surprised me was the T5 @ 242 bhp with the T6 @ 300bhp. Any comment about the two vehicles would be appreciated My last Volvo was a V70T5. Things have changed a bit LOL

M-R-P
Monday 12th May 2014, 15:02
I believe the T5 you were looking at is a 4-pot (I know - sacrilege aint it!)

I'd go for the T6 and slap a polestar map on it :D

stribo
Monday 12th May 2014, 15:34
I believe the T5 you were looking at is a 4-pot (I know - sacrilege aint it!)

I'd go for the T6 and slap a polestar map on it :D

The T5s are still 5 pot, which is the one I'd go for as the T6 are auto only.

M-R-P
Monday 12th May 2014, 16:07
The T5s are still 5 pot, which is the one I'd go for as the T6 are auto only.

Really? there was a stint of calling some 4-pot motors T-5, I thought they'd carried it on.

stribo
Monday 12th May 2014, 16:15
Really? there was a stint of calling some 4-pot motors T-5, I thought they'd carried it on.

According to Wikipeadia they have 2L 5 pot engines, but other sources say they're 2.5 5 pot, I can't seem to find a definitive answer.

M-R-P
Monday 12th May 2014, 16:21
The S40 had a 2.5 Focus ST 5-pot but I was reading the brochures in my local stealers when they did my DIM and there were second gen S60s that came with a 2.0L 4-pot turbo with 243bhp called a T-5. The sales assistant didn't appreciate me grilling him over it and declined to comment weather it was a Ford derived lump.

T5RatherAmusin
Monday 12th May 2014, 16:28
it kills me they never did a manual t6!

jamesy12345
Monday 12th May 2014, 16:30
Parkers has one of the T5s down as a 2.0 litre 4-pot

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/volvo/s60/saloon-2010/51493/

stribo
Monday 12th May 2014, 16:31
The S40 had a 2.5 Focus ST 5-pot but I was reading the brochures in my local stealers when they did my DIM and there were second gen S60s that came with a 2.0L 4-pot turbo with 243bhp called a T-5. The sales assistant didn't appreciate me grilling him over it and declined to comment weather it was a Ford derived lump.

Yeah, just found this:
http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/press/releases/2010/s60_2010.shtml

M-R-P
Monday 12th May 2014, 16:34
told ya :haha:

Plodmonkey
Monday 12th May 2014, 16:38
4 pot t5 that's like having a Non turbo auto supra

stribo
Monday 12th May 2014, 16:40
told ya :haha:
:whatever::talktohan

Wobbly Dave
Monday 12th May 2014, 17:02
The T5 is dead - long live the T6

M-R-P
Monday 12th May 2014, 17:06
Wash your mouth out Mr wobbly!



...Besides, they'll all be tiny 4-pots with hooj turbos soon any way.

MacXC60T5
Monday 12th May 2014, 22:42
This is a current picture of the 2010 T5. Not sure about the colour if I can live with it, seems to be growing on me but reminds me of the runny stuff.
Only done 6k miles since new
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/T5008_zps01c4736a.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/T5008_zps01c4736a.jpg.html)
This view it does not look too bad
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/T5007_zps23229b1f.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/T5007_zps23229b1f.jpg.html)

This is the T6 I am viewing 24k miles
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/volvo-s60-t6-304-se-lux-premium-4dr-awd-geartronic-petrol-saloon-77017654-1_zpsca2952df.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/volvo-s60-t6-304-se-lux-premium-4dr-awd-geartronic-petrol-saloon-77017654-1_zpsca2952df.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/volvo-s60-t6-304-se-lux-premium-4dr-awd-geartronic-petrol-saloon-77017654-2_zps723a14df.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/volvo-s60-t6-304-se-lux-premium-4dr-awd-geartronic-petrol-saloon-77017654-2_zps723a14df.jpg.html)

Could be a better buy or could it any suggestions?

Plodmonkey
Monday 12th May 2014, 22:55
I would love the new t5 or a t6 awd but no manual in a t6 = CRAP

stribo
Monday 12th May 2014, 23:07
This is a current picture of the 2010 T5. Not sure about the colour if I can live with it, seems to be growing on me but reminds me of the runny stuff.
Only done 6k miles since new
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/T5008_zps01c4736a.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/T5008_zps01c4736a.jpg.html)
This view it does not look too bad
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/T5007_zps23229b1f.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/T5007_zps23229b1f.jpg.html)

This is the T6 I am viewing 24k miles
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/volvo-s60-t6-304-se-lux-premium-4dr-awd-geartronic-petrol-saloon-77017654-1_zpsca2952df.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/volvo-s60-t6-304-se-lux-premium-4dr-awd-geartronic-petrol-saloon-77017654-1_zpsca2952df.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/volvo-s60-t6-304-se-lux-premium-4dr-awd-geartronic-petrol-saloon-77017654-2_zps723a14df.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/volvo-s60-t6-304-se-lux-premium-4dr-awd-geartronic-petrol-saloon-77017654-2_zps723a14df.jpg.html)

Could be a better buy or could it any suggestions?

Saffy or black, hard choice, especially as we have both.

volvokid
Monday 12th May 2014, 23:13
No one notice the polestar badge on the boot ;)
I don't like all the silver trim on that T6 and I've seen sportier alloys on a kia.

M-R-P
Monday 12th May 2014, 23:14
T6 mate, it's got semi-manual so you get a bit involved.

Oh poo, I'm advocating autos...

M-R-P
Monday 12th May 2014, 23:14
No one notice the polestar badge on the boot ;)

Sod the gearbox... It's mapped :)

MacXC60T5
Monday 12th May 2014, 23:44
Being new on the latest Volvo scene. I believe it has been remapped to 330 bhp. This T6 has been run by Volvo and only just come onto the open market. It has every conceivable extras available. Up for
£15500.00. The T5 with 6k miles is up for £14000.00. Very good deal on my BMW 116i M Sport all of 121 bhp.

I am leaning towards the T5 @£200 +a bit road tax as against £500 for the T6. Do not like in principal paying that amount to HMG. The T5 is Manual which would be great for a remap. As said before only done 6k miles and would be just like buying a new vehicle SHMBO says it's a 5hit colour but it is growing on me, something different than the blacks greys and silvers. Out of general interest how much would a Polestar remap for a T5 cost.

Blackdog
Tuesday 13th May 2014, 06:57
They don't appear to list one for the T5. So you will need to check it out with a main dealer to see if it can be "officially" mapped. If they do offer a polestar map expect to pay in the region of £850-£900 for it...... Maybe time to look at the aftermarket boys.

lance
Tuesday 13th May 2014, 08:06
I would hate to say it go for a manual D5 and map that. Good to see you back Mac could you live with an end of line V50 or S40 they have a very tuneable 2.5 t5 engine lovely 6 speed box and £265 road tax isn't too bad :-)

M-R-P
Tuesday 13th May 2014, 08:12
Hang the road tax, you only have to pay it once a year - I'd have the big angry T6 :)

Do they still do the 4.4L V8? that had 330bhp standard and sounded naughty ;)

T5RatherAmusin
Tuesday 13th May 2014, 08:54
Tuff choice lol. Gold ones got nicer wheels tho lol :/

MacXC60T5
Tuesday 13th May 2014, 13:14
I am NOW leaning towards the T6. SWMBO has stated that she is not riding around in a car the same colour as 5hite!!!!. Just put a deposit on the T6 so that looks like the way I am going. 36k miles so in three years it will have done 46k miles so it may be worth possibly £10k if very lucky. As said every conceivable extra has been fitted.

MacXC60T5
Tuesday 13th May 2014, 13:16
Tuff choice lol. Gold ones got nicer wheels tho lol :/

I think that is the only extra I would fit on the T6 would be a nice set of wheels.

M-R-P
Tuesday 13th May 2014, 13:18
I think that is the only extra I would fit on the T6 would be a nice set of wheels.

Those Ixion wheels on the T5 also come in 18", 19" and 20" :yikes:

M-R-P
Tuesday 13th May 2014, 13:20
19" ixions on Jimka's beautiful C70 T5...

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g413/martinrpeachey/meets/DSCF0280_zps198e493a.jpg (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/martinrpeachey/media/meets/DSCF0280_zps198e493a.jpg.html)

don kalmar union
Tuesday 13th May 2014, 17:37
Volvo did sell just a few current S60 and S70 T5s here which did in fact have the Ford Ecoboost 2 litre engine, same as the current Focus ST.

The 'T6' is a Ford Bridgend built engine which is going out of production very shortly and by most accounts the mandatory auto. is pretty unsatisfying.

The problem with all current Volvos is their incorporation of a PINCODE in the ECU that prevents anyone from flashing in after market software with the exception of a dealer who can.....naturally, sell you the humdrum 'polestar' branded stuff. I say humdrum as their current offering for a T6 gives I believe enhanced outputs of 329bhp and 480nm of torque against 360bhp and 520nm from MTE. MTE however do have to open the ECU to initiate a software upgrade........

So disappointed have Volvo been with the take-up of the 'polestar' branded software, despite the obstacle of their PINCODE BANDITRY to others' reasonable entry into the market I understand that Volvo dealers can, of a few days ago, practically give it away......

Regards, Don.

MacXC60T5
Wednesday 14th May 2014, 12:43
Hang the road tax, you only have to pay it once a year - I'd have the big angry T6 :)

Do they still do the 4.4L V8? that had 330bhp standard and sounded naughty ;)

Approximately 2 years ago they did the S80 with the V8 which had the V8 Yamaha engine which was also in the XC90. I had the option to buy but missed out as it went to France. It was a great driving car but never really sold in the UK. To be honest it was like 5hit of a shoval. The one I viewed had 9k miles and been in the dealer for 6months. Never seen one since. Those days have now gone for good.

MacXC60T5
Wednesday 14th May 2014, 12:51
Sod the gearbox... It's mapped :)

Spoke to Avia yesterday to tell them that my new car was re-mapped by Polestsr, they were not interested!!!. Premium has gone from Fully Comp on the BMW to fully comp on T6 by £18.00. Benefits of being an OAP boring old fart. Looking forward to Auto Box as getting bored with changing gear. Also just love the kickdown, I assume it has one?

jamesy12345
Wednesday 14th May 2014, 12:58
Spoke to Avia yesterday to tell them that my new car was re-mapped by Polestsr, they were not interested!!!. Premium has gone from Fully Comp on the BMW to fully comp on T6 by £18.00. Benefits of being an OAP boring old fart. Looking forward to Auto Box as getting bored with changing gear. Also just love the kickdown, I assume it has one?

I think all modern autos do

MacXC60T5
Thursday 15th May 2014, 06:07
Well !!! Deposit paid. Test drive on Friday. Should go well. Return home with 2011 S60T6 36k miles 1 lady owner, every conceivable extra including a Polestar Remap, which I believe takes it to 330 bhp. 3 years Volvo warranty, New tyres, discs and pads all round. Puts me back into the Volvo fold, this will be my seventh Volvo.

jamesy12345
Thursday 15th May 2014, 06:25
Pictures please!!

MacXC60T5
Thursday 15th May 2014, 06:43
A few more Pictures
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4725_zpsc69dd9fa.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4725_zpsc69dd9fa.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4729_zpsa71bafe5.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4729_zpsa71bafe5.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4728_zps343164a9.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4728_zps343164a9.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4733_zpsc4e81e12.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4733_zpsc4e81e12.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4730_zps6ae85697.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4730_zps6ae85697.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4731_zpsc12b68ef.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4731_zpsc12b68ef.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4736_zpsf7c3783f.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4736_zpsf7c3783f.jpg.html)

As requested

stribo
Thursday 15th May 2014, 06:53
A few more Pictures
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4725_zpsc69dd9fa.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4725_zpsc69dd9fa.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4729_zpsa71bafe5.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4729_zpsa71bafe5.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4728_zps343164a9.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4728_zps343164a9.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4733_zpsc4e81e12.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4733_zpsc4e81e12.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4730_zps6ae85697.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4730_zps6ae85697.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4731_zpsc12b68ef.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4731_zpsc12b68ef.jpg.html)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/ClanMackay1942/IMG_4736_zpsf7c3783f.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ClanMackay1942/media/IMG_4736_zpsf7c3783f.jpg.html)

As requested

Very nice, the same colour combination as our S60R. :DBTW not all photos are working.

MacXC60T5
Thursday 15th May 2014, 06:56
Strange works on mine. Maybe a glitch somewhere.

stribo
Thursday 15th May 2014, 06:57
Strange works on mine. Maybe a glitch somewhere.

Now working. :D

jamesy12345
Thursday 15th May 2014, 07:18
Very nice, like the little blue sticker

Not all pics working for me however I get the inernet via two bean cans and string

volvokid
Thursday 15th May 2014, 07:33
Brilliant, to have all those extras is amazing also and those seats should be the expensive leather, looks really nice. I would need to change a few things on the outside, the T6 is volvos only answer to a modern day R, it shouldn't look like every other S60, but that's my taste.

Harvey
Thursday 15th May 2014, 08:41
Photos not working for me.