rolling road today :-)

[caseyt5]

Well had mine rolling roaded today didn't expect that much bhp and definitely didn't expect 376ftlb of torque.

Overall came out at 301.2hp

First run made 307hp
Second run made 299.1hp
The first run was with the ebc set at 16psi
The second run was with an mbc running more boost but misfired. Probably caused by the afr's.

Thats on a hlm 304 map with a 16t running blue injectors at the moment.

3" throttle body n/a cams, rip kit, forged conrods, decat and a homemade exhaust.

getting a 19t next week so will fit and rolling road on the same dyno at the same boost and see the difference.

I cant post a pic from my phone but anyone who has me on facebook please feel free to upload for me :D.

[merc85]

Well done buddy, thats certainly nice power :)

[oblark]

Thats some good power :)

Was it dynoed at the Gosport dyno ?

[Wobbly Dave]

Just out of curiousity which RR was it?

Good results mind - if you get yourself a photobucket or dropbox account - it makes it easy to share from your phone,

[caseyt5]

Thanks mate, didnt expect that much to be honest I thought around 260/270bhp and thought thr torque would match. :-) atleast its a starting point for more mods.

[caseyt5]

It was devil development in Littlehampton and it was a dyno dynamics rolling road. :-)

[stribo]

I told you it was more than 260bhp ;) Good figures mate. :D

[caseyt5]

It just didn't seem that much and after alot of RRs with a 16t and 304 id seen on here most only make around 260/270 so kept my eyes on that sort of figure :-)

[AndysR]

Good power, no wonder it turned the times on the 1/4 that it did!

[caseyt5]

Thanks Andy :-)

[graemewelch]

good results there, just been talking to your mate mike batesman

[caseyt5]

Thanks mate, yes I still want an intake but can't open pms on my phone and couldn't remember who I spoke to. Gonna try and put an order in of 3 at a time :-)

[Wobbly Dave]

Here's your graph taken from FB

24518

[smithy]

I know I'm going to get slated for this but what was the whp please .good results by the way and good torque too

[caseyt5]

Thanks mate

[caseyt5]

I think it was around 250

[V70 Graham]

Nice figures, you must be pleased.

[stribo]

I know I'm going to get slated for this but what was the whp please .good results by the way and good torque too

Stop asking stupid questions, slating over. :P

[T5frankie]

Massive torque for a 16t mate

[caseyt5]

It has alot of room for improvement, it hunts on idle but can't find an air leak. It does pull effortlessly im hoping the 19t will improve the power later in the rpm

[Jamest5r]

That's bloody good for a.16t must be ringing it's neck to the max :)

[mike 850]

Very good figures mate, I always thought you couldn't break the 300 on a 16t without extensive headwork etc but I guess the cams will help up top, immense torque, my old 850 hit 280 bhp and 342ft lbs on a 15g which I thought was great, well done. You must be chuffed with that!

[T5frankie]

A 16t at 510nms??

[caseyt5]

It looks that way frankie

[T5frankie]

What boost was you running with mbc? Do you think n/a cams made that much difference?

[caseyt5]

It was 20psi on the mbc, I never noticed a difference but on my mates t5 they drive totally different in how power is delivered. It also pulls hard from him 3rd onwards almost like his has stopped the only mods different are 16t na cams rip kit and 3"throttle body but hes running at 1bar on his guage

[stribo]

Well, with all that power, you should be in the 13s. :P

[mike 850]

Sure you don't have a 19t already? lol. How was the timing set up on the cams and is it a 3" rip? also is the 16t angled?

[caseyt5]

Very good figures mate, I always thought you couldn't break the 300 on a 16t without extensive headwork etc but I guess the cams will help up top, immense torque, my old 850 hit 280 bhp and 342ft lbs on a 15g which I thought was great, well done. You must be chuffed with that!

thanks mate, didnt expect it to make anywhere near that I expected 260 ish as didn't believe cams etc would make any difference maybe small gains with a bigger turbo

[caseyt5]

Well, with all that power, you should be in the 13s. :P

oh steve you know how hard I was trying and how it destroyed my life by not getting that lol

[caseyt5]

Sure you don't have a 19t already? lol. How was the timing set up on the cams and is it a 3" rip? also is the 16t angled?

It is angled rip kit is 2.5 I think as its smaller then the throttle body but bigger then the standard pipe. I bought the kit off oblark :)

Deffo a 16t lol was the original that came with the car.

[caseyt5]

On the throttle body subject I still have the plastic wedge on mine as got it off a 2.5 960

[stribo]

oh steve you know how hard I was trying and how it destroyed my life by not getting that lol

Haha, we'll have to go to pod, my times are always better there.;)

[T5frankie]

oh steve you know how hard I was trying and how it destroyed my life by not getting that lol

I've been trying for years, my car has the power now just got to get it ready

[T5frankie]

Be a close thing our 850r's

P.s please lose the yellow car off signature, that's what I thought you had

[ROZER]

that's very impressive power and torque from a 16t I have a s60 t5 it has a ferrita downpipe full s/s catback and I only get 278bhp and 300 ft/lb torque from a rica stage 2 map or a hlm map with the same turbo ?? also mrp gets the same as me and there was another s60 t5 on here getting 278bhp as well seems to me the p2 t5 from 2000-2004 is way behind the power figures from the older 850 t5 or s70 t5 its just got me thinking why?????

[caseyt5]

Its gotta be done frankie next mod I think will be a focus box with a gripper diff Don't wanna lose drive ability either so lookimg at alternatives

[T5frankie]

that's very impressive power and torque from a 16t I have a s60 t5 it has a ferrita downpipe full s/s catback and I only get 278bhp and 300 ft/lb torque from a rica stage 2 map or a hlm map with the same turbo ?? also mrp gets the same as me and there was another s60 t5 on here getting 278bhp as well seems to me the p2 t5 from 2000-2004 is way behind the power figures from the older 850 t5 or s70 t5 its just got me thinking why?????

Your power is normal, I would be doubting his figures if he hadn't got such a good 1/4 mile tine

[caseyt5]

I think the p2 delivers it alot smoother then the 850/v70 but doesn't explain the power difference :-S

[caseyt5]

Your power is normal, I would be doubting his figures if he hadn't got such a good 1/4 mile tine


Would be good to get a few of us on the same rolling road to see a real difference in the hp between our cars

[ROZER]

I agree look at your torque 374ft/lb to mine 300ft/lb that's a big difference huge I think when they are the same engine.

[ROZER]

same turbo same blue injectors but you have a decat which am starting to think might be a good mod for a p2 also I see many 850s using a 3inch throttle body what is mine is that an upgrade too.??

[T5frankie]

Using an mbc gives you alot more torque than just a remap

[ROZER]

Using an mbc gives you alot more torque than just a remap

not that much mate don't forget am also running 18psi with mine. hes 74ft/lb torque better off than me cant get me head around it . I could if he was using a 19t with thoses mods but not a 16t crazy.

[M-R-P]

same turbo same blue injectors but you have a decat which am starting to think might be a good mod for a p2 also I see many 850s using a 3inch throttle body what is mine is that an upgrade too.??

P2 has 3" throttle as standard. what would help is changing the intercooler as they have 57mm ports.

[M-R-P]

Stribo is running over 350ft/lb on a 16t and straight flange iirc.

[ROZER]

P2 has 3" throttle as standard. what would help is changing the intercooler as they have 57mm ports.

can it really be that dude hes running 113 ft/lbs torque more than you with nearly the same turbo the same injectors same engine can it really be just that.?????? think I need to sell me p2 and go old school.

[M-R-P]

There's something odd about Stribo's engine mate, it's always produced crazy amounts of torque.
Mine has a 210k engine with the original cat/downpipe which I know is restricting flow somewhat. I'll be dealing with that soon and then it'll be back down to Southways automotive for another dyno session.

[stribo]

There's something odd about Stribo's engine mate, it's always produced crazy amounts of torque.
Mine has a 210k engine with the original cat/downpipe which I know is restricting flow somewhat. I'll be dealing with that soon and then it'll be back down to Southways automotive for another dyno session.

Oi, don't call my car odd :P My car has 343 lb/ft, but only 245 bhp, that maybe because the torque tails off quite sharply after 3500rpm (possible actuator issue), but yeah it's running a 16t with straight flange, and whites.

[M-R-P]

Oi, don't call my car odd :P My car has 343 lb/ft, but only 245 bhp, that maybe because the torque tails off quite sharply after 3500rpm (possible actuator issue), but yeah it's running a 16t with straight flange, and whites.

My mistake, I wasn't far off tho. :D

I can test your actuator some time if you like Steve.

[V70 Graham]

I can test your actuator some time if you like Steve.

He has a whatyamacallit kinda thingy

[caseyt5]

Hmmm, probably a stupid question but is the torque down to timing advanced or retarded?

[stribo]

Once the new turbo goes on, I'll probably fit a forge one, but it would be handy to know if this one's working properly.

[V70 Graham]

Hmmm, probably a stupid question but is the torque down to timing advanced or retarded?

Are you on about the car.....or driver ?

[ROZER]

There's something odd about Stribo's engine mate, it's always produced crazy amounts of torque.
Mine has a 210k engine with the original cat/downpipe which I know is restricting flow somewhat. I'll be dealing with that soon and then it'll be back down to Southways automotive for another dyno session.

mine has a ferrita 3inch downpipe that I got second hand from Hamish a few years back and you got the same bhp as me yes your torque figures is down compared to mine but its only going to bring it up closer to 300 like mine but where still way outside off the 850s also my engine has only done 104k theres something where missing .

[ROZER]

24519

[ROZER]

the blue line is rica the red is hlm autotech .

[merc85]

Its harder to get a increase in torque and Bhp together

[Jamest5r]

24519

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Yep buy an 850 mate :)

[M-R-P]

mine has a ferrita 3inch downpipe that I got second hand from Hamish a few years back and you got the same bhp as me yes your torque figures is down compared to mine but its only going to bring it up closer to 300 like mine but where still way outside off the 850s also my engine has only done 104k theres something where missing .

Simple answer... ME7.1.

It tries too hard to make the car feel smooth and ultimately strangles it.

[ROZER]

http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy185/jamesclancy/DSC_0673_zpskcqftkb_edit_1396713836678_zpsxpuwi3gi .jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/jamesclancy/media/DSC_0673_zpskcqftkb_edit_1396713836678_zpsxpuwi3gi .jpg.html)

Yep buy an 850 mate :)

that's not helping me dude. anyway you have big turbo on yours cheat.

[T5frankie]

Ill say it again any usage of an mbc or bleed valve will give massive torque gains early on but will leave you wuth less top end, but 510 nms is ridiculous i got 478 nms with my 19t at 21psi

[mike 850]

yeah mine was 436nms with a 19t @ 19psi

[caseyt5]

Ill say it again any usage of an mbc or bleed valve will give massive torque gains early on but will leave you wuth less top end, but 510 nms is ridiculous i got 478 nms with my 19t at 21psi

I suppose it's luck as alot of engines on here vary so much on torque figures

[M-R-P]

I suppose it's luck as alot of engines on here vary so much on torque figures

Just a shame mine let me down somewhat when I took you out in it last month. New downpipe on the wish list, hopefully that'll sort it :)

[caseyt5]

It was still quicker then mine with the vac line open ;) I feel the p2's are quicker then what they feel like in the car, I'll put a new seat in to take you out next time ;)

[stribo]

Just a shame mine let me down somewhat when I took you out in it last month. New downpipe on the wish list, hopefully that'll sort it :)

I know of an R one going spare.;)

[M-R-P]

It was still quicker then mine with the vac line open ;) I feel the p2's are quicker then what they feel like in the car, I'll put a new seat in to take you out next time ;)
Yeah, a seat that I can fit in would make it a lot more fun lol ;)

I know of an R one going spare.;)
Thanks Steve, I have my eye on a dp with a race cat which should become available around the time I have the money to pay for it. might be worth hanging-on to yours tho, in case someone's car fails it's emissions test I know yours was on the limit, mine probably will be too so it'll be handy as a backup for MOT purposes.

[caseyt5]

Or get a friendly MOT tester ;)

[M-R-P]

Or get a friendly MOT tester ;)

There is that option ;)