19T or 20T, What to do??

[Avinitlarge]

Ive just been given a nice unexpected PPI refund so I've been looking at 2 turbo's, 19T and 20T. Both have a billet compressor and 9 blade turbine. I am thinking 20t but any opinions will be great.

[oblark]

PPI pay out are nice as I've just received one :)

I'd go for the 20T

[p fandango]

Ive just been given a nice unexpected PPI refund so I've been looking at 2 turbo's, 19T and 20T. Both have a billet compressor and 9 blade turbine. I am thinking 20t but any opinions will be great.
It really depends on what other mods u've got on the engine, if the rest of it is stock then don't even think of a 19t. I ordered the 20t billet wheel this morning, but I'm running the 11blade exhaust wheel. The 19t with billet wheels been proved to be good for 344bhp

[Avinitlarge]

The Block is stock.
Other mods to go with it are
NA cams
Greens
3" Maf and intake
225 fuel pump
Ostrich
Custom Tune
3" TB and opened up inlet
3" OBX DP
BSR Exhaust

NON engine
Focus ST 6 speed Box with Quaife Diff
FoCus ST FW and clutch

[jamesy12345]

Owens 19T???

http://www.owendevelopments.co.uk/product/405/Owen_Developments_MHI_TD04_64HTA_Volvo_Upgrade/

No personal experience of using this, it was just on the list for the future (very far future when I win the lotto)

[Avinitlarge]

I did look at that a while ago, bloody expensive though. IIRC, it was about £1200

[graemewelch]

Change your rods befor fitting that turbo

[jamesy12345]

I vote for putting the PPI money into Premium Bonds and keeping it until you have enough for the Owen's 19T and rods

and get rid of that cone filter :D

Looks like our lasses cat needs rebuilding at the vets, so might be a while off before I get near one!

[Avinitlarge]

Well, the rods and bending were looked into. The main cause of bending rods is a bad tune, mainly cause by knock/Detonation. Make sense really. The tune it is having is going to be done over a long period of time with loads of data logging.

The Rods are on the list to do in the future at some point though, Ive got the money to do them but Im going to see how I get on.

Cone is going for so many reasons

[graemewelch]

Well, the rods and bending were looked into. The main cause of bending rods is a bad tune, mainly cause by knock/Detonation. Make sense really. The tune it is having is going to be done over a long period of time with loads of data logging.

The Rods are on the list to do in the future at some point though, Ive got the money to do them but Im going to see how I get on.

Cone is going for so many reasons


100% agree with you. Who tuned your car

[Avinitlarge]

I am tuning it. Ive done it before on a Mondeo, tuned it over a few weeks. That had stock rods, stock pistons which I had ceramic coated. T28 running 19psi, The only thing that I broke was the turbo and that was down to not using a restrictor on the oil feed.

[graemewelch]

I am tuning it. Ive done it before on a Mondeo, tuned it over a few weeks. That had stock rods, stock pistons which I had ceramic coated. T28 running 19psi, The only thing that I broke was the turbo and that was down to not using a restrictor on the oil feed.

i thought i reconised the user name. Did you used to be on meg

[Avinitlarge]

Ha, Yes, that was me. That will be why your name rings a bell too

[graemewelch]

Ha, Yes, that was me. That will be why your name rings a bell too


Small world eh

[T5frankie]

Owens 19T???

http://www.owendevelopments.co.uk/product/405/Owen_Developments_MHI_TD04_64HTA_Volvo_Upgrade/

No personal experience of using this, it was just on the list for the future (very far future when I win the lotto)

scott won the uxbridge dyno day with that turbo, around 338bhp iirc

[graemewelch]

scott won the uxbridge dyno day with that turbo, around 338bhp iirc

His turbo was a norm 19t. The owens one failed on him

[T5RatherAmusin]

chris had the owens 19t on that day at 332hp

[graemewelch]

Chris car isnt mapped for a 19t. He should be good for 370 with some mapping

[T5RatherAmusin]

ye i know it was runnin a custom mte map but still hitting 1.6 bar with it

[graemewelch]

itll be a animal with the correct mapping. his car was badly surging on the dyno. 1.6 bar is a lot of boost. i made 356 bhp with 1.25 bar of boost with a autotech map

[WOODY T5]

Got 342 from my 19t @ 1.3 bar

[Avinitlarge]

Small world eh

It is indeed, I loved that car, was sad to see it go, a proper ego killer not to mention a really good sleeper

Anyway, Bought the 20t :D

[t5 pete]

Looking forward to seeing how u get on with the 20t