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graemewelch
Thursday 6th March 2014, 19:50
anyone ever removed the base from a s60. got my front seats out but need to seperate them for the next stage of renavation. im sure ill sus it out tomora but if anyone has some diagrams or has done it befor then that would be handy

Harvey
Thursday 6th March 2014, 21:49
What was wrong with the seats ?.

graemewelch
Thursday 6th March 2014, 22:06
What was wrong with the seats ?.

the general condition of the leather dosnt meat my standard. its starting to crack and look old. so ive been to the furniture clinic today and spent £100 on stuff to fully refurb them. just had my carpets professionally clean and all plastics have been cleaned and dressed. i want the leather to be like new so the inside is mint.


http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/IMG_9624_zps6c8eb3cf.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/IMG_9624_zps6c8eb3cf.jpg.html)

i cant live with the seats in this condition

Harvey
Thursday 6th March 2014, 22:15
This was my front seat.
Before & After

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?15891-Restoring-leather-interior-(Liquid-Leather)&p=478999&viewfull=1#post478999

graemewelch
Thursday 6th March 2014, 22:20
This was my front seat.
Before & After

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?15891-Restoring-leather-interior-(Liquid-Leather)&p=478999&viewfull=1#post478999


good results there. very good match to. ill post up some pics when i start doing the work.

Harvey
Thursday 6th March 2014, 22:26
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/IMG_9624_zps6c8eb3cf.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/IMG_9624_zps6c8eb3cf.jpg.html)


I think give then a clean then condition them leave for a couple of weeks then the same again.
They should come up quite well,looking at them I take it you haven't cleaned & condition them before you should be doing then every 3 months or so

Harvey
Thursday 6th March 2014, 22:33
Just make sure you don't put the key in the car ignition barrel or you will get a air bag fault if you unplug the seats.

T5RatherAmusin
Thursday 6th March 2014, 22:35
thats what you get for letting the collie drive it grae ahahah ;)

graemewelch
Thursday 6th March 2014, 22:42
I think give then a clean then condition them leave for a couple of weeks then the same again.
They should come up quite well,looking at them I take it you haven't cleaned & condition them before you should be doing then every 3 months or so


they wernt in the best condition when i got the car. they cleaned up well but since me accident ive let the car go abit. im abit anal and want things to be as close to perfect as possible. only way to do that is to dismantle the seat, strip the top coat off and then apply a several coats of dye. if i ££££ it up ill get it done by the pros. but its not rocket science.

graemewelch
Thursday 6th March 2014, 22:44
Just make sure you don't put the key in the car ignition barrel or you will get a air bag fault if you unplug the seats.

battery is disconected and wont be connected untill the seats are fitted again. i can get rid of srs codes/lights with my i softloader anyway


thats what you get for letting the collie drive it grae ahahah ;)

hes banned lol. every now and again he sneaks in the car when im not looking.

JamesT5
Thursday 6th March 2014, 23:54
If you want really perfect then get some new leather covers from Volvo, failing that see if a breakers yard has some tidier ones. But if you are refurbishing the seats there are companies that do it for a fee but also there is Gliptone leather restorer which is supposed to be quite good.

Harvey
Friday 7th March 2014, 07:48
If you want really perfect then get some new leather covers from Volvo
James do you know how much new seat covers are for our cars ?.
I think they are around £300 just for the base cover and the same again for the top seat,£600 per seat so I don't think anyone would change for new covers.
But with a bit of TLC you can make a very big difference to them.

JamesT5
Friday 7th March 2014, 09:15
James do you know how much new seat covers are for our cars ?.
I think they are around £300 just for the base cover and the same again for the top seat,£600 per seat so I don't think anyone would change for new covers.
But with a bit of TLC you can make a very big difference to them.

My top swab is torn on the stitching down the side (a common fail pint from what I can gather), so I may end up ordering a new top cover at some point. Better start saving! :D

Harvey
Friday 7th March 2014, 10:17
My top swab is torn on the stitching down the side (a common fail pint from what I can gather), so I may end up ordering a new top cover at some point. Better start saving! :D

Sorry I was wrong about the price !.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281107663264


Upholstery, right View Product

Stock Code: 39897788
Price:
$ 860.93
Categories: Body and interior > Interior
Assemblies: Upholstery, upholstery front seat frontseat police VOLVO Ocean Race (vor) "black sapphire" code BX7X V70 xc, XC70, -2004 code AX51 V70 -2004 code AX7X S60 -2004 code BX8X code BX5X, 2005- code dxxc code AX8X "inscription" S60, V70 2005- (CH 428900- CODE 9576
CODE A576 V70 FC 1; CH 461733-, FC 2; CH 462729-, S60 CH 428900-)
Additional Images:

graemewelch
Friday 7th March 2014, 11:58
If you want really perfect then get some new leather covers from Volvo, failing that see if a breakers yard has some tidier ones. But if you are refurbishing the seats there are companies that do it for a fee but also there is Gliptone leather restorer which is supposed to be quite good.

james i think youve completly misunderstud what my intensions are. ive no untrested in fitting seats from a scrapyard. i am not looking to tidy them up but fully refurbish them myself. im aware of gliptone products and these seats are beyond that. theres nothing wrong with the leather just the finish its self. my seats will look like new when finished.

JamesT5
Friday 7th March 2014, 12:23
Sorry I was wrong about the price !.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281107663264


Upholstery, right View Product

Stock Code: 39897788
Price:
$ 860.93
Categories: Body and interior > Interior
Assemblies: Upholstery, upholstery front seat frontseat police VOLVO Ocean Race (vor) "black sapphire" code BX7X V70 xc, XC70, -2004 code AX51 V70 -2004 code AX7X S60 -2004 code BX8X code BX5X, 2005- code dxxc code AX8X "inscription" S60, V70 2005- (CH 428900- CODE 9576
CODE A576 V70 FC 1; CH 461733-, FC 2; CH 462729-, S60 CH 428900-)
Additional Images:

I think the design of the leather is very slightly different to mine but still, not a bad price at all!

JamesT5
Friday 7th March 2014, 12:25
james i think youve completly misunderstud what my intensions are. ive no untrested in fitting seats from a scrapyard. i am not looking to tidy them up but fully refurbish them myself. im aware of gliptone products and these seats are beyond that. theres nothing wrong with the leather just the finish its self. my seats will look like new when finished.

No, I haven't misunderstood at all. The way I see it you want to restore the appearance of your seats and ultimately the overall appearance of the inside of your car. Replacing the seats with ones in better condition is just one option of many, so is the gliptone, both of which were just suggestions that might actually help you out?

graemewelch
Friday 7th March 2014, 12:45
No, I haven't misunderstood at all. The way I see it you want to restore the appearance of your seats and ultimately the overall appearance of the inside of your car. Replacing the seats with ones in better condition is just one option of many, so is the gliptone, both of which were just suggestions that might actually help you out?


But you wont get mint used seats. Plus a decent facelift leather will be over 350 and still not up to my standard. Gliptone wont restore the finish of the seats. Its just make the crack a bit more subtle.

V70 Graham
Friday 7th March 2014, 12:52
I hope you do a before and after Graeme, so we can all see the results.

graemewelch
Friday 7th March 2014, 13:10
I hope you do a before and after Graeme, so we can all see the results.

ill try and take pics through all the stages but once i start something i like to get my head down and just get on with it. i just hope ill be happy with the car again after all this hard work thats going into it

Harvey
Friday 7th March 2014, 13:12
I think the design of the leather is very slightly different to mine but still, not a bad price at all!

I think you should ask Volvo how much a new cover is just for a laugh. :hilarious then :jaw:

stribo
Friday 7th March 2014, 13:13
Do yourself a favour Graeme, and source an Atacama interior.;)

graemewelch
Friday 7th March 2014, 13:17
Do yourself a favour Graeme, and source an Atacama interior.;)


why would i do sumit as gay as that :uglyhamme. need to decied to a good dressing for the plastics. havnt decieded what i use. ive got stp but might try one of the posh ones to see if i can get a longer lasting satin finish

new windscreen coming soon but i havnt told the mrs yet. might keep that one quiet

Jimmie
Friday 7th March 2014, 13:21
Do yourself a favour Graeme, and source an Atacama interior.;)

That used to cost a £1000 to redo the complete interior properly.
Check Volvokids posts for cleaning info

mikealder
Friday 7th March 2014, 14:17
This is one of my posts from elsewhere, it shows how to take the S60 seats to bits and recover them

Have you got an S60 with leather seats but no seat heaters fitted as they can be quite cold in the winter mornings, this little lot shows what can be done to add heater pads to both parts of the front seats, not a difficult job but does take a few hours to get it right:

This write up assumes you know how to remove the front seats and the necessary precautions when messing around with front seats that contain airbags. In short you need to remove the four bolts that hold the seat to the chassis before disconnecting the cars battery only then can you disconnect the seats electrical connector(s) to remove the seat from the car.

Firstly you need to remove all the hog rings securing the bottom of the leather cover to the base of the seat, best removed using wire cutters by twisting the ring to undo it before threading it out of the seat material:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/542/s9t1.jpg

Underneath the seat at the rear of the base are a few more hog rings attaching the leather cover to the seat springs, again remove the rings to release the cover

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/199/olls.jpg

With all the hog rings removed from around the base the sides should pull up over the base foam insert:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/607/25oe.jpg

Carefully lift the leather cover up to expose the first hog ring connecting the cover to the foam base then remove it, take care not to apply too much vertical force though as you don't want to pull the metal rod out of the foam base

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/24/7wq7.jpg

Continue removing hog rings from both sides of the base until you get to the first set of rings running across the base of the seat, remove the hog rings

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/542/9rnf.jpg

Then continue working further rearwards to get to the next set of rings running across the seat, remove these rings

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/713/o177.jpg

Eventually you will have the leather base cover removed although we left the rear most hog rings in place as we could work around them but you should end up with the seat base looking something like this:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/841/lxsb.jpg

Place the heater mat on to the foam base and push the electrical wires through to the rear of the seat, push the seat heater down in to the channel where the hog rings need to go running side to side and mark the area with a felt tip pen:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/546/djrh.jpg

Working further forwards again push the heater mat in to the next channel in the foam base running side to side and mark the location with a felt tip pen:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/820/14vg.jpg

Towards the rear of the heater mat is a temperature switch, this needs to sit in to a small recess in the foam otherwise you will feel it when sitting in the seat, simply tear out a small chuck of foam from the base to accommodate the temp sensor:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/30/x210.jpg

The location of the seat temperature sensor although it is difficult to see from the picture, it is very easy to locate by feel:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/440/uzql.jpg

Cut the heater mat where marked up but don't cut the outer 1" strips as these run the power forwards to the rest of the seat heater mat, the slots are required to re-secure the seat cover later on:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/18/hkum.jpg

The lower side of the heater mat is covered with self-adhesive strips, remove the backing paper and secure the mat in to position making sure that at the two channels running side to side you push the may in to the groove to seat it fully:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/812/82g6.jpg

Finally put a length of adhesive tape over the leading edge of the heater mat to secure it to the foam base:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/89/am7e.jpg

Here we decided to cheat using more modern kit than the hog rings removed earlier as getting new hog rings in place was nigh on impossible due to the restricted access, firstly tywraps were fitted to the leather seat cover:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/845/myqg.jpg

mikealder
Friday 7th March 2014, 14:18
The tywraps were then pushed under the metal rod in the foam base and tensioned:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/6/3whm.jpg

Pushing the leather cover down in to the gap allows the tywrap to be fully tightened up:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/577/nedq.jpg

Finally cut the tail off the tywrap then rotate the tywrap so the head of it is sat under the wire in the foam base (this way you won't feel it when you are sat on the seat, continue to add and secure the tywraps until all the leather cover attachments are in place and secured:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/19/z79a.jpg

The sides can then be secured using hog ring pliers as the access is somewhat easier:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/600/uefj.jpg

New hog rings securing the sides in place:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/11/cygp.jpg

Applying more new hog rings to secure the front of the leather seat cover to the metal seat frame:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/823/3r3x.jpg

That's the first half back together, next up is the seat back:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/547/k9go.jpg

Four hog rings secure the front of the seat back to the front at the lower rear edge of the seat:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/845/8iil.jpg

Remove the rings and the seat back cover starts to release:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/856/dwpg.jpg

The side flaps simply stretch over the plastic side parts of the seat:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/855/t4pe.jpg

Guess what is stopping the seat back cover from coming off, yes more hog rings, again much in the same way as the base came to bits these rings have to be removed one by one without exerting too much pressure on the rods that are part of the foam as you don't want the rod to pull out:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/96/8ii9.jpg

Work methodically from the base of the seat removing the rings from the vertical channels then once exposed remove the rings from the horizontal channels:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/200/ey7o.jpg

We stopped at the second horizontal channel for the hog rings as the seat heater mat was only long enough to get this far up the seat (no point making even more work):

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/607/yjo1.jpg

Pop the heater mat in to position and mark out the location of the horizontal channel with a felt tip pen:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/12/0ii2.jpg

Cut through the heater mat avoiding cutting the outer 1" section then secure the mat down to the foam using the self adhesive strips:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/706/pc6c.jpg

mikealder
Friday 7th March 2014, 14:19
Again more tywraps applied in the same way as we did the work on the base:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/4/3dlx.jpg

Finally you get to the rear opening of the seat which needs clipping together:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/811/0tb0.jpg

More hog rings and that is the seat upholstery work completed, the wiring and control relay was clipped up under the seat and it was time to pop the seat back in to the car:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/189/c9eh.jpg

Passenger seat two stage heat control switch:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/707/lr68.jpg

Drivers side two stage heat control switch:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/51/hcjl.jpg

Green denotes stage one heat:

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/850/eml8.jpg

Red denotes stage two heat:
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/708/chg8.jpg

For the power to supply the seat heaters we used the Volvo fitted seat heater supply lines which is a Blue wire with red stipe (+12) in pin one of the seat connector and the Black wore in pin 3 of the seat connector is 0V (-) - The 15A fuses were already fitted which was an added bonus - All four seat heater pads are now working, total time spent was between 5 and 6 hours to complete both front seats - Mike

graemewelch
Friday 7th March 2014, 14:21
looks like you done a good job. ill be spliting my seats into two halfs later today. just waiting on a phone call to say my dye is mixed

JamesT5
Friday 7th March 2014, 14:22
You're the first man I've ever seen that has 3 hands.... :D

LeeT5
Friday 7th March 2014, 20:15
Thats an outstanding write up! Many thanks. Glad I don't have to do it!

LeeT5
Friday 7th March 2014, 20:19
I think you should ask Volvo how much a new cover is just for a laugh. :hilarious then :jaw:

I did, before Christmas. Basically, each cover is £500. So that's...:dunce: £2000 just for the front seats. + 2 days work to install.

Harvey
Saturday 8th March 2014, 17:05
Any news how it's going.photos would be even better.

graemewelch
Saturday 8th March 2014, 17:23
Any news how it's going.photos would be even better.

ive split the drivers seat into two halves, thats about as far as ive got so far.

Harvey
Saturday 8th March 2014, 17:26
Have you picked up the dye yet ,if so what's the colour like.

merc85
Saturday 8th March 2014, 17:38
I hate bloody hog rings lol, ive recently done the drivers seat on the 850, and it was a ball ache, Zip ties make it so much easier refiiting :)

graemewelch
Saturday 8th March 2014, 18:29
Have you picked up the dye yet ,if so what's the colour like.


Not yet. They promised theyd ring when it was mixed but they didnt ring so ill chase it up on monday. Im sure the colour will be 100% perfect match.

graemewelch
Monday 10th March 2014, 21:34
i promised myself i wouldnt post anything untill im finished and the seats are back in the car but im so impressed with what ive done so far im putting up a sneak preview. i wont go into details about what ive done as ill do a thread about that later.


befor
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/IMG_9622_zps34b4a2c5.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/IMG_9622_zps34b4a2c5.jpg.html)

the oh ££££ i hope this is going to work moment

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20140310_161349_zpsbvyrnfto.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20140310_161349_zpsbvyrnfto.jpg.html)

two coats with sponge and one with airbrush. still a few coats to go and satin laquer

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20140310_211832_zpsqfi48xmz.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20140310_211832_zpsqfi48xmz.jpg.html)

Harvey
Monday 10th March 2014, 21:47
Looking good.

LeeT5
Monday 10th March 2014, 23:33
Before you put the leather back on the seat it's worth considering replacing the seat base foam. Volvo do an up rated firmer foam for the P2 models. It's not that expensive if I remember rightly.

graemewelch
Monday 10th March 2014, 23:41
Before you put the leather back on the seat it's worth considering replacing the seat base foam. Volvo do an up rated firmer foam for the P2 models. It's not that expensive if I remember rightly.

the foam on the base isnt in bad condition at all. but the back rest isnt all that good. ill phone up tomora and see how much the foam kit is. only down side is more striping as ive only seperated the base from the backrest.

graemewelch
Tuesday 11th March 2014, 21:09
i promised myself i wouldnt post anything untill im finished and the seats are back in the car but im so impressed with what ive done so far im putting up a sneak preview. i wont go into details about what ive done as ill do a thread about that later.


befor
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/IMG_9622_zps34b4a2c5.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/IMG_9622_zps34b4a2c5.jpg.html)

the oh ££££ i hope this is going to work moment

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20140310_161349_zpsbvyrnfto.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20140310_161349_zpsbvyrnfto.jpg.html)

two coats with sponge and one with airbrush. still a few coats to go and satin laquer

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20140310_211832_zpsqfi48xmz.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20140310_211832_zpsqfi48xmz.jpg.html)

now the lacquers have been put on. factory like finish. im now happy to plod on with the rest of the seats

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20140311_200946_zps12gkyob6.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20140311_200946_zps12gkyob6.jpg.html)

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20140311_201001_zpsygr3sjkc.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20140311_201001_zpsygr3sjkc.jpg.html)

merc85
Tuesday 11th March 2014, 21:11
your doing a great job there buddy :)

Redbrick
Tuesday 11th March 2014, 21:56
Great post, never seen this done before.

Interesting about new foam being available, my drivers seat after having been sat in for 210K miles is a bit flat and lacking in bolstering. Would give it a real refresh changing the foam.

graemewelch
Tuesday 11th March 2014, 22:00
Im going to take my seat to a local triming place. Its a old fellow who works part time. Im sure it wont cost a fortune, i hope.

graemewelch
Friday 14th March 2014, 10:20
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20140313_202249_zpsmktnasf2.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20140313_202249_zpsmktnasf2.jpg.html)

V70 Graham
Friday 14th March 2014, 10:27
Very nice Graeme, well worth the trouble.....just the passenger seat to do now.

graemewelch
Friday 14th March 2014, 12:48
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20140314_121926_zpsdav36rem.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20140314_121926_zpsdav36rem.jpg.html)

Better than they were i suppose.

soothingduck
Friday 14th March 2014, 13:00
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20140314_121926_zpsdav36rem.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20140314_121926_zpsdav36rem.jpg.html)

Better than they were i suppose.

Nice job and well done.
Nice to see the man who is going to make my exhaust as a gentle touch and not just a metal basher :)

graemewelch
Saturday 15th March 2014, 21:04
seat no 2 complete. will be back in the car tomora. im not going to bother doing a write up but should anyone want any info drop me a pm and ill see it when i next log on

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20140315_190434_zpsertqsp9d.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20140315_190434_zpsertqsp9d.jpg.html)

Harvey
Saturday 15th March 2014, 23:34
Looking great nice to see the diffrance.

V70 Graham
Saturday 15th March 2014, 23:40
The fronts do look good.....just the rear to do now, you know you want to lol

t5 pete
Sunday 16th March 2014, 00:19
Awesome work gra I wonder if Volvo still stocks new foam for the 850's

laughjimbo
Thursday 20th March 2014, 15:00
They are looking real good mate, I am going to have to tackle doing mine too.

craigieboy
Sunday 23rd March 2014, 19:56
Looks greate mate u wanna do mine ?