Avon 30/3/14 1/4 mile season opener

[MoleT-5R]

30/3/14 Avon public track weekend. Surprised I've not seen anything up already, but Avons season opener is rapidly nearing so who's up for it ??

1. MoleT-5R

[siamblue]

30/3/14 Avon public track weekend. Surprised I've not seen anything up already, but Avons season opener is rapidly nearing so who's up for it ??

1. MoleT-5R


1. MoleT-5R
2. Siamblue (if it is ready..)

[claymore]

bugger, I'm on the dyno that day :(

[stribo]

Hell yeah.:D

[Nealevo]

bugger, I'm on the dyno that day :(

Bugger i'm in Barcelona that week, ragging F type coupés till they die!!!

[stribo]

Bugger i'm in Barcelona that week, ragging F type coupés till they die!!!

Git.

[WOODY T5]

Working

[p fandango]

Bugger i'm in Barcelona that week, ragging F type coupés till they die!!!
as i have so much faith in British engineering you could be back in time then lol

[p fandango]

1. MoleT-5R
2. Siamblue (if it is ready..)
3. Stribo
4. Pedro

[ExternalError]

1. MoleT-5R
2. Siamblue (if it is ready..)
3. Stribo
4. Pedro
5. ExternalError (just to watch)

[Jamest5r]

Me subject to not raining the weekend before so my mapping can be done

[MoleT-5R]

bugger, I'm on the dyno that day :(

so that 14.77 will be stopping a little longer then, next one after that is 13/4/14

[Dangerous Dave]

Sadly I'm getting married on the 29th so won't be in any state to drive :(

[stribo]

so that 14.77 will be stopping a little longer then, next one after that is 13/4/14

That means we'll both be quicker than him for a bit longer.;)

[MoleT-5R]

That means we'll both be quicker than him for a bit longer.;)

we'll have to be on our toes, as now he has less power ,he might be able to get it of the line a bit quicker :ready2go:

[Nealevo]

Sadly I'm getting married on the 29th so won't be in any state to drive :(

That's no excuse!!!! Avon raceway is the perfect honeymoon destination.

[claymore]

so that 14.77 will be stopping a little longer then, next one after that is 13/4/14

I might try and get on the dyno early, then shoot down to shakey

[T5frankie]

ill be there dunno what in yet

[smithy]

I will be there spectating if not raining

[martin_r_smith]

I'll come along in old smokey if it doesn't die on the dyno on the 29th. Just to watch though as an 850 tdi has no place on a drag strip lol.

[T5frankie]

I might try and get on the dyno early, then shoot down to shakey

why you on another dyno

[claymore]

why you on another dyno
I've made a few changes, and I wasn't overly impressed with that dyno at Uxbridge, my boost dropped off as soon as it hit 1.2bar, but on the road it holds 1.2bar to the red line.

[T5frankie]

I've made a few changes, and I wasn't overly impressed with that dyno at Uxbridge, my boost dropped off as soon as it hit 1.2bar, but on the road it holds 1.2bar to the red line.

290bhp is bang on for an 18t at 1.2 bar mate

[claymore]

290bhp is bang on for an 18t at 1.2 bar mate
Possibly, but we will see, I would rather go on my usual dyno as it will be a better comparison between my two cars.

[WOODY T5]

u do know its mother`s day then?

[Hybusamini]

Were is this avon track never been to it?

[p fandango]

Were is this avon track never been to it?
Stratford upon Avon

[MoleT-5R]

It's here, only short drive from M40 J15, depending where you coming from. There postcode is CV37 8LL for peeps with sat-nav

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Shakespeare+County+Raceway/@52.1325819,-1.7495258,10z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x4870d08804b063fd:0x32ec4443d3ab8 13b?hl=en

[Wobbly Dave]

Put me down as a possible. I should have shaken things down by then

[martin_r_smith]

What time is everone getting there on sunday?

[Jamest5r]

I won't be.there till the afternoon probably 2ish

[claymore]

I won't be there till about mid day, I'm on the dyno in the morning.

[stribo]

We should be there early, though can't remember what time it opens.

[caseyt5]

We should be there early, though can't remember what time it opens.

I might follow you up if that's ok?

[stribo]

I might follow you up if that's ok?

No worries mate, if you come up the A34 we could meet at Tothill services.

[MoleT-5R]

We should be there early, though can't remember what time it opens.

scrutineering from 09.00 and first car away at 10.00. My car is still in bits so touch and go whether I'm competing or sitting on the side lines with Smithy, as I doubt he's finished his yet

[LiamT4]

I'll pop down to this after i finish work on sunday.

[Wobbly Dave]

Due to family commitments I will sadly have to bow out on this occasion.

[JUDGENINJA]

Is there camping Sat night?

Rolling road event Sat in Oxfordshire.... I wonder if it worth coming back...??

[MoleT-5R]

Is there camping Sat night?

Rolling road event Sat in Oxfordshire.... I wonder if it worth coming back...??

Yep it's a weekend event so saturday night camping will be on

[icooney]

might be down to watch... day before pay day :(

[JUDGENINJA]

Mother's Day and Zoe's birthday... I've got a lot of creeping to do in order to make this..

[Wobbly Dave]

I have already fallen foul of the MD thing. :cry:

Maybe I should just run away.

[Jamest5r]

I have already fallen foul of the MD thing. :cry:

Maybe I should just run away.

I've got a safe house you can use mate :)

[Wobbly Dave]

I need to get a 16T to Gary - who is coming up that day - are you about tomorrow James? Can I drop it with you?

[Jamest5r]

I need to get a 16T to Gary - who is coming up that day - are you about tomorrow James? Can I drop it with you?

Of course I'm not around I drive a truck for a living :)

[MoleT-5R]

got no wheels on her yet, so don't think I'm going to make this one
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/MoleT5R/Moles%20T5%20R%20Project%20Olive/DSC_0228_zps67cd2839.jpg (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/MoleT5R/media/Moles%20T5%20R%20Project%20Olive/DSC_0228_zps67cd2839.jpg.html)

[p fandango]

got no wheels on her yet, so don't think I'm going to make this one
BT's only got 3 so not going to make it either

http://imageshack.com/a/img18/7774/q3qs.jpg

[T5frankie]

has everyone actually dropped out of this now?

[claymore]

Well, I was still intending to go after I've been on the Dyno.

[T5frankie]

So those that are going aint gonna be there till the afternoon?

[stribo]

Nope, we're still going. :D

[T5frankie]

so stribo, claymore and jim, 2 of which won't be there till the afternoon, cracking lol

[claymore]

Blame it on being Mothers day

[stribo]

so stribo, claymore and jim, 2 of which won't be there till the afternoon, cracking lol

Rachel's going as well, as is CaseyT5.

[smithy]

I'm not going due to personnel reasons

[WOODY T5]

Me not going :(

[martin_r_smith]

so stribo, claymore and jim, 2 of which won't be there till the afternoon, cracking lol

I know the feeling. I was disappointed with the turn out for the rr day, made me look a right pillock to be honest. But hey live and learn.

I will still be going tomorrow, supposed to be a real nice day too weather wise. Still won't be putting old smokey through a 1/4 mile though, well not until I get a new clutch :)

[JUDGENINJA]

Zoe's birthday and Mother's Day.... But We're coming..

We'll be there around 09:00-10:00z

[MoleT-5R]

Zoe's birthday and Mother's Day.... But We're coming..

We'll be there around 09:00-10:00z#

sorry to be a let down, but engine isn't back in and today was one of those 2 steps back ones, so have a great day and crack some good target times for Stirbo and Frenkie and I hope to see you in 2 weeks time

spelling pistakes intended

[JUDGENINJA]

Now not going to make it before 11:00..

[Jamest5r]

Only just leaving London now with a massive hangover, I'll see how I feel when I get back north

[The Flying Moose]

Haha well for those that are there or rather do make it enjoy! If the weather is anything like the east coast then its perfect, dry and a little cloud cover perfect for intake temperatures.

Sorry I couldn't make it but I'm stuck sat in work!

[T5frankie]

Can't wait for the times 14.7 for Colin and 14.5 for stribo lol

[MoleT-5R]

Can't wait for the times 14.7 for Colin and 14.5 for stribo lol

at present steve can't get into the 14's, his best was 15.09 at last message

[claymore]

Well, Just got back, it was a lovely day and no Quing at all a ll day, I shan't tell you my best time :)

[stribo]

A good day, no queues whatsoever, but my performance and that of my car's, didn't match up to the weather :( My best time in the C70 was 15.09, and in the R 14.05, Rachel got 14.88 in the C70, and 14.04 in the R, so she's happy.

[T5frankie]

A good day, no queues whatsoever, but my performance and that of my car's, didn't match up to the weather :( My best time in the C70 was 15.09, and in the R 14.05, Rachel got 14.88 in the C70, and 14.04 in the R, so she's happy.

im even happier you didnt beat my time lol, so your missus is a better driver than you? lol

[JUDGENINJA]

Poor performing day for me 14.5 was the best I could do. I started to wind the MBC up, but is didn't make any difference was so ever.

[stribo]

im even happier you didnt beat my time lol, so your missus is a better driver than you? lol

Looks that way mate, know anyone that wants to buy a C70?;)

[merc85]

A good day, no queues whatsoever, but my performance and that of my car's, didn't match up to the weather :( My best time in the C70 was 15.09, and in the R 14.05, Rachel got 14.88 in the C70, and 14.04 in the R, so she's happy.

Different track, different times, much like a Dyno :wallbash:

[T5frankie]

Looks that way mate, know anyone that wants to buy a C70?;)

just get those mods on ffs

[graemewelch]

another good time showing the phase 2 is a better motor than the old school :uglyhamme

[T5frankie]

Different track, different times, much like a Dyno :wallbash:

1st track day at avon is quite slippy

[T5frankie]

another good time showing the phase 2 is a better motor than the old school :uglyhamme

yeah with a bigger engine 4wd an extra 60bhp? etc yeah much better

[merc85]

what was your terminal time stribo?

[martin_r_smith]

It was a very nice day, good to meet you all. But just mafe me want to get my clutch sorted and blast old smokey down the strip.

I got plenty of pics and vids so when I have time tomorrow I shall upload a few.

[stribo]

what was your terminal time stribo?

Got 99mph in the C, and 102.4 in the R.

[graemewelch]

yeah with a bigger engine 4wd an extra 60bhp? etc yeah much better

so even with the awd sapping the power it was still a fair bit quicker.

[T5frankie]

so even with the awd sapping the power it was still a fair bit quicker.

still not as quick as my old banger 850 though

[graemewelch]

still not as quick as my old banger 850 though


haha banging is hitting the nail on the head. it might be quicker but its pushed beyond the limits of reliability. best all round package is the p2.

[stribo]

still not as quick as my old banger 850 though

Ah but the R is still running ;)

[T5frankie]

Ah but the R is still running ;)

so is mine

[graemewelch]

Ah but the R is still running ;)

haha to slow again :uglyhamme

[T5frankie]

haha banging is hitting the nail on the head. it might be quicker but its pushed beyond the limits of reliability. best all round package is the p2.

in another 5 years time no-one will be talking about phase 2 t5's but the 850r is a classic

[jamesy12345]

haha banging is hitting the nail on the head. it might be quicker but its pushed beyond the limits of reliability. best all round package is the p2.

Wait til I get this bloody nitrous sorted :D

Anyway, quickest on the forum is an 850...u P2 lads are built for comfort not speed :)

[stribo]

Wait til I get this bloody nitrous sorted :D

Anyway, quickest on the forum is an 850...u P2 lads are built for comfort not speed :)

It's not an 850R though.;)

[stribo]

haha to slow again :uglyhamme

Sums up my day mate.

[caseyt5]

I got 14.014 Constantly boosting differently made me verrrrrry angry

[jamesy12345]

It's not an 850R though.;)

Assuming I get that T-5R from Dan, that nitrous kit is going straight on it.... Might even crack 14.999999999

[graemewelch]

Wait til I get this bloody nitrous sorted :D

Anyway, quickest on the forum is an 850...u P2 lads are built for comfort not speed :)

next time your in the country call by and ill fill you in with the new details


in another 5 years time no-one will be talking about phase 2 t5's but the 850r is a classic

dont be so stupid. a volvo will never be a classic. how many classic volvos are out there now. never going to happen. even a poxy fiesta xr2 is more of a classic than the 850 thats famous for being a jews car. ive never been gulable enough to think the s60 is going to be a future classic. just better than the chocolate 850 that keeps breaking down

[jamesy12345]

next time your in the country call by and ill fill you in with the new details



dont be so stupid. a volvo will never be a classic. how many classic volvos are out there now. never going to happen. even a poxy fiesta xr2 is more of a classic than the 850 thats famous for being a jews car. ive never been gulable enough to think the s60 is going to be a future classic.. just better than the chocolate 850 that keeps breaking down

LOL, will do mate

[T5frankie]

I got 14.014 Constantly boosting differently made me verrrrrry angry

good time what your spec?

[siamblue]

next time your in the country call by and ill fill you in with the new details



dont be so stupid. a volvo will never be a classic. how many classic volvos are out there now. never going to happen. even a poxy fiesta xr2 is more of a classic than the 850 thats famous for being a jews car. ive never been gulable enough to think the s60 is going to be a future classic. just better than the chocolate 850 that keeps breaking down

The P180 is a classic and was a volvo last time i looked lol..

[claymore]

Some in car vids, unfortunately my helmet cam didn't work the way I would have hoped, so you will have to just be content with these:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr3xF2okJ5k

[claymore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea4xkiyqXrc

[claymore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9eOSGQ0PMg

[caseyt5]

good time what your spec?
Its nothing special bud n/a cams rica map and 16t

[merc85]

Great vids Claymore :)

[smithy]

Nice vids but I still think you could of got over the line in 3rd gear

[martin_r_smith]

I got 14.014 Constantly boosting differently made me verrrrrry angry

Yeah you definitely had the boost gremlins, still good times though, and it did sound good!

[T5frankie]

Its nothing special bud n/a cams rica map and 16t

what boost you running?

[theflyingbrick]

Its nothing special bud n/a cams rica map and 16t

what?? is that all you've done?? cant be??

[T5frankie]

next time your in the country call by and ill fill you in with the new details



dont be so stupid. a volvo will never be a classic. how many classic volvos are out there now. never going to happen. even a poxy fiesta xr2 is more of a classic than the 850 thats famous for being a jews car. ive never been gulable enough to think the s60 is going to be a future classic. just better than the chocolate 850 that keeps breaking down

i think you should sell your volvo, you obviously have no interest in them whatsoever other than to make money off

[T5frankie]

what?? is that all you've done?? cant be??

stribo said forged engine, mbc etc

[p fandango]

what?? is that all you've done?? cant be??
stop messing about, get yours on the strip with that 19t & you'll be beating that anyway

[WOODY T5]

Nice vids lads and lasses any know times jimbo?

[T5frankie]

Nice vids lads and lasses any know times jimbo?

he didnt go mate

[claymore]

stribo said forged engine, mbc etc
yes, it's got n/a cams and forged rods, neither give you more power, have you thought that he might just be a very good driver ;)

[T5frankie]

yes, it's got n/a cams and forged rods, neither give you more power, have you thought that he might just be a very good driver ;)

they give you the ability to run more power, and he has an mbc so has low down boost, if you can get a 2.2 60ft then thats all you can do, race is done in the 1st 60ft

[Wobbly Dave]

I'd disagree with that Frankie - yes a good 60' is important but I can get 2.2 pretty constantly - but I am still 6 tenths off the pace of Dean's car.

[graemewelch]

Nice vids lads and lasses any know times jimbo?

your not worried are you:slap:

[T5frankie]

I'd disagree with that Frankie - yes a good 60' is important but I can get 2.2 pretty constantly - but I am still 6 tenths off the pace of Dean's car.

thats because you have a huge turbo that you dont seem to want to exploit, get it mapped properly by someone who knows how to do it and get it turned up to 2.5 bar, your car is no quicker than a 19t'd motor at the moment

[graemewelch]

thats because you have a huge turbo that you dont seem to want to exploit, get it mapped properly by someone who knows how to do it and get it turned up to 2.5 bar,

dave wont need to run stupid boost to make good power on that engine. the airflow in and out that engine will have very little restriction so the boost dosnt need to be sky high. 1.4 bar on a well set up engine will make 400 bhp easy

[T5frankie]

once the wheels have stopped spinning then its foot to the floor and changing gear, not too difficult

[caseyt5]

It was the chowmein colin :P on it was around a bar as it just touched the top of the boost guage. But it wouldn't run right and the boost wasn't consistent and seemed to have a mind of its own.

[T5frankie]

dave wont need to run stupid boost to make good power on that engine. the airflow in and out that engine will have very little restriction so the boost dosnt need to be sky high. 1.4 bar on a well set up engine will make 400 bhp easy

why buy that turbo then, when a smaller one would have done a better job? that turbo is rated at 600bhp,

[T5frankie]

It was the chowmein colin :P on it was around a bar as it just touched the top of the boost guage. But it wouldn't run right and the boost wasn't consistent and seemed to have a mind of its own.

what was your terminal?

[claymore]

dave wont need to run stupid boost to make good power on that engine. the airflow in and out that engine will have very little restriction so the boost dosnt need to be sky high. 1.4 bar on a well set up engine will make 400 bhp easy

Yep, mine was at 434bhp @ 1.5 bar

[caseyt5]

what was your terminal?
The slips in the car but I think it was 103 or 104

[T5frankie]

The slips in the car but I think it was 103 or 104

good times and terminal, don't forget to put your name on the quarter mile table, just above mine, git lol

[caseyt5]

Nope I lied it was 101.88

[Jamest5r]

Nice vids lads and lasses any know times jimbo?

No mate, didn't leave London till midday and with a raging hangover lol, spent the afternoon on the couch watching touring cars

[caseyt5]

good times and terminal, don't forget to put your name on the quarter mile table, just above mine, git lol
:P where is the table lol

[JUDGENINJA]

stribo said forged engine, mbc etc

Also spotted some bucket seats...

[T5frankie]

:P where is the table lol

just put it up

[graemewelch]

why buy that turbo then, when a smaller one would have done a better job? that turbo is rated at 600bhp,


Do i realy need to explain it. Theres many reasons. Most are obvious to me effiecentcy comes to mind.why have a small turbo going flat out and temps going through the roof and there for loosing power. Having been in daves car i wouldnt say its laggy either. Dosnt spool as quick as a k24 but not many turbos do

[Wobbly Dave]

thats because you have a huge turbo that you dont seem to want to exploit, get it mapped properly by someone who knows how to do it and get it turned up to 2.5 bar, your car is no quicker than a 19t'd motor at the moment

hang on a minute - I only had that engine 10 minutes - with a massive learning curve and issues to overcome, before it let go. there was certainly no lack of ambition on my part. When it let go after only 2500 miles I think it did me a favour - because I have been able to address issues which bugged me the 1st time around
If anything this year - personal circumstances more than the car may yet prevent me from putting up a fight.

But that wasnt my point. the point is the 60' is not the race winner. You got to be able to put it down all the way up. If you line up Dean's and my best ticket - its the 2nd 16th mile where I was losing out.

[martin_r_smith]

why buy that turbo then, when a smaller one would have done a better job? that turbo is rated at 600bhp,

Because he can?

[martin_r_smith]

Also spotted some bucket seats...

+5hp

[caseyt5]

Also spotted some bucket seats...

That's 10 bhp ;)

[T5frankie]

Do i realy need to explain it. Theres many reasons. Most are obvious to me effiecentcy comes to mind.why have a small turbo going flat out and temps going through the roof and there for loosing power. Having been in daves car i wouldnt say its laggy either. Dosnt spool as quick as a k24 but not many turbos do
I didn't say small just smaller built for 400 bhp

[caseyt5]

+5hp

Haha you beat me to it!!! Was good meeting you all today :) ill check them parts for you tomoz and if you want them bits sprayed if you pay for the paint ill do it for free :)

[martin_r_smith]

Haha you beat me to it!!! Was good meeting you all today :) ill check them parts for you tomoz and if you want them bits sprayed if you pay for the paint ill do it for free :)

Sounds good, a trip to portsmouth wouldn't hurt, especially at 48+mpg ;)

[Wobbly Dave]

GTX3071R turbo may support up to 560 bhp on medium displacement engines. FYI 2.5 bar is way outside it's efficiency envelope.

Frankie just bandies figures like chimps running a bar. Lot of noise & little accuracy.

[MoleT-5R]

so has anyone got a list of the volvo entries times ?????

[ExternalError]

GTX3071R turbo may support up to 560 bhp on medium displacement engines. FYI 2.5 bar is way outside it's efficiency envelope.

Frankie just bandies figures like chimps running a bar. Lot of noise & little accuracy.

Dave just ignore it take it slow and gradually turn it up other wise you will end up breaking it, no offence to frankie but if I were you I'd rather have a car thats fast but reliable than one that is a few miles off of breaking, its 2 different worlds frankie has the 1 race engine mentality which doesn't suit your project requirements of it also being a daily driver

[Wobbly Dave]

Thanks but I don't actually agree - well not exactly. Frankie is right to a point - I didn't show that well last year.

So I start again. All the money I've spent is pointless unless I can produce a competitive car come May/York.

My project mentality is that I accept that while I am trying something new, pushing the envelope, a bit different - I accept the lack of reliability. I have the luxury that I don't rely on this car to get me anywhere.

It was a really disappointing to end up with a PB in 2013 & a broken engine.

I've sunk a fair chunk of reddies into this & it wasn't to have a fast road car. I guess the true irony lies in the fact that refuse to sacrifice interior and A/C to achieve this goal.
Although - if this goes bang - I am done - I won't rebuild a third time.

Anyway, Good Luck everyone for 2014 - Dean I'm coming to getcha!!

[graemewelch]

Thanks but I don't actually agree - well not exactly.
All the money I've spent is pointless unless I can produce a competitive car come May/York.

My project mentality is that I accept that while I am trying something new, pushing the envelope, a bit different - I accept the lack of reliability. I have the luxury that I don't rely on this car to get me anywhere.

It was a really disappointing to end up with a PB in 2013 & a broken engine.

I've sunk a fair chunk of reddies into this & it wasn't to have a fast road car. I guess the true irony lies in the fact that refuse to sacrifice interior and A/C to achieve this goal.
Although - if this goes bang - I am done - I won't rebuild a third time.

Anyway, Good Luck everyone for 2014 - Dean I'm coming to getcha!!


for your engine to go bang was just bad luck. possibly a error by someone who had built the engine the first time. guess well never know and it dosnt realy matter now. garrets turbos on a t5 arnt a new thing though. theres loads out there just not many in the uk. its no secret that the 2.3 t5 internals are made of chocolate but youve replaced the diary milk rods and pistons. if you were to chuck a even bigger blower on im sure it would take the abuse for many years to come. but the suporting mods youve bolted on mean that high boost isnt required to achive good bhp. just a good map to bring it all together so it all work together as a unit. will you beat dean is another question. i still thing his suspension set up plays a huge part aswell as avery good map

[stribo]

for your engine to go bang was just bad luck. possibly a error by someone who had built the engine the first time. guess well never know and it dosnt realy matter now. garrets turbos on a t5 arnt a new thing though. theres loads out there just not many in the uk. its no secret that the 2.3 t5 internals are made of chocolate but youve replaced the diary milk rods and pistons. if you were to chuck a even bigger blower on im sure it would take the abuse for many years to come. but the suporting mods youve bolted on mean that high boost isnt required to achive good bhp. just a good map to bring it all together so it all work together as a unit. will you beat dean is another question. i still thing his suspension set up plays a huge part aswell as avery good map

That's not quite accurate mate, the later ones are much stronger, it's just the 850's that seem to have chocolate rods. Dave's engine failure was very strange, as he pointed out the other day when we were chatting via Facebook about it, he'd given it the beans all day long at Santa Pod, and not had a problem, it was only on a saunter home after a stop off on the way home that it let go. That has to be the hardest thing, not knowing why it failed, it's easy if an engine lets go on a run, but not on a gentle run.

[Wobbly Dave]

there was no way to know - could have been me - could have been a mistake in the build. Just dust myself off & start over, do it better then next time.

[Nealevo]

Can i just point out that Dean, still has his chocolate rods (for now :)) in that witchcraft car of his.... Just saying.

[WOODY T5]

Can i just point out that Dean, still has his chocolate rods (for now :)) in that witchcraft car of his.... Just saying.stop talking about my rods like that mate u might upset them ;)

[stribo]

Can i just point out that Dean, still has his chocolate rods (for now :)) in that witchcraft car of his.... Just saying.

Dean is the exception that proves the rule.:D

[graemewelch]

Dean is the exception that proves the rule.:D


The rule is simple. Proper mapping wont bend rods. But that generaly means a custom map not off the shelf rubbish.

[T5frankie]

The rule is simple. Proper mapping wont bend rods. But that generaly means a custom map not off the shelf rubbish.

Deans map wasn't even mapped for his car or his Turbo

[Wobbly Dave]

Personally I think Dean's augmented his flywheel to include a run for the VTEC hamster...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y81bW4jE9wI

[graemewelch]

Deans map wasn't even mapped for his car or his Turbo

dosnt mean its a poor map though.

[WOODY T5]

Deans map wasn't even mapped for his car or his Turboyes mate that's right but not alot between t28 and a 19t when next to each other tho