carbon fiber cam cover

[ebbrell]

hi

ive been builing a 850 t5 engine really slowly at the moment due to other commitments anyway ive been looking at building a new cam cover out of carbon fiber i cant think why this wouldnt work but i would like some info if anyone has done it before

thanks

[stephenevans99]

I'm certain carbon spark plug covers are available.

[jamesy12345]

I'm certain carbon spark plug covers are available.

Volvo make one or at least used to, part number is 9166807......no idea if you can still get them but would look good

http://www.wothrline.com/images/new_wothrline/Priscilla_engineroom.jpg

After some comments about the state of my engine bay from T5 Pete and Shepbomb - I tried to tidy a bit but my standard plastic one didn't brush up too well.....

[ebbrell]

not the spark plug cover the cam cover i attached the picture of it above i should have said this is the part

[partsforvolvos.com]

we have 2 left in stock if you are interested.
I don't think we will re order anymore when these are sold.

http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/images/large_images/PFV906262_large.jpg

linky (http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/product_info.php?products_id=6269)

[M-R-P]

Sounds like a brave thing to try - lots of potential problems.

Would look the muts nuts tho.

[partsforvolvos.com]

lol, we posted at the same time now I can say doh! wrong bit ........

[partsforvolvos.com]

these is a company I know of who have made the later cambelt covers out of CF, but they were too expensive.

ask martyn to cover it for you? he does a good job

[M-R-P]

these is a company I know of who have made the later cambelt covers out of CF, but they were too expensive.

ask martin to cover it for you? he does a good job

It would melt pretty quickly and then it would stink...
....Don't think I haven't thunk about that Jamie lol ;)

[ebbrell]

there is a guy in usa who has built a full block based on a zetec engine out of carbon fiber i thought about doing the same but on a smaller scale like the cover i thought carbon fiber was heat resistant

[M-R-P]

there is a guy in usa who has built a full block based on a zetec engine out of carbon fiber i thought about doing the same but on a smaller scale like the cover i thought carbon fiber was heat resistant

Depends on the level of heat - get it too hot and the resin will turn to powder.

[partsforvolvos.com]

I believe normally for direct high heat they have a reflective/protective layer applied like the gold a maclaren f1 has in the engine bay # $$$$$$$$

the top covers we sell do not have any extra protection on them but I imagine anything near the exhaust will want it. presumably the resin melts not the mesh.

[jamesy12345]

not the spark plug cover the cam cover i attached the picture of it above i should have said this is the part

sorry I thought you were talking about the spark plug cover

23601

....doesn't scrub up very well!

[M-R-P]

sorry I thought you were talking about the spark plug cover

23601

....doesn't scrub up very well!

Errr....


Ignoring the image...


A dishwasher is quite effective ;) (at cleaning car parts, not genitalia)

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can a dishwasher clean that picture from my mind though

[M-R-P]

can a dishwasher clean that picture from my mind though

Maybe if you drop it on your head!

[Wobbly Dave]

If this is for cosmetic purpose then surely getting the top of the aluminium CF dipped is a much easier option? And cheaper too.

[mikealder]

Hydro dipped might work but talk to a few companies first and ask how heat resistant it is.

As for a solid carbon cam cover I think you would be in to thousands to get one right with plenty of scrap produced along the way, access to an autoclave and producing the mould wouldn't be cheap.

Then look in to dissimilar thermal expansion of carbon vs the alloy the lower part of the head is made from, get this wrong and the cams will tighten up leading to a snapped belt and ruined engine - Mike

[stephenevans99]

Hydrodipping....there's only one company I'd talk to: Aquagraphix

https://www.facebook.com/aquagraphixuk --- http://www.aquagraphix.co.uk/

They assure me that it's good to 250 Degrees C & it looks very nice imo.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/stephenevans99/Volvo%20S60%20D5%202004/HydroGraphics/DSC04419.jpg (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/stephenevans99/media/Volvo%20S60%20D5%202004/HydroGraphics/DSC04419.jpg.html)

[jamesy12345]

Errr....


Ignoring the image...


A dishwasher is quite effective ;) (at cleaning car parts, not genitalia)


can a dishwasher clean that picture from my mind though

A dishwasher you posh buggers

[M-R-P]

A dishwasher you posh buggers

Yep - we gotta toilet inside too :)

[Wobbly Dave]

I would have thought the cam cover is very unlikely to reach 250 degrees? Water cooled engine running roughly around 90 degrees? I thought about things like this - but cosmetic niceties can always be added later. I'd focus on getting your engine right first.

[graemewelch]

Yep - we gotta toilet inside too :)

your just showing off now

[Wobbly Dave]

Hydrodipping....there's only one company I'd talk to: Aquagraphix

https://www.facebook.com/aquagraphixuk --- http://www.aquagraphix.co.uk/

They assure me that it's good to 250 Degrees C & it looks very nice imo.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/stephenevans99/Volvo%20S60%20D5%202004/HydroGraphics/DSC04419.jpg (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/stephenevans99/media/Volvo%20S60%20D5%202004/HydroGraphics/DSC04419.jpg.html)

Still umming and aring about weather to get my covers painted or dipped. Think I am leaning towards dipping.

[M-R-P]

your just showing off now

You wanna see how we deal with darkness...

We have little round glass things that magically light up! No setting fire to gas lamps and candles for us, oh no - we're all modern down here ;)

[stephenevans99]

Still umming and aring about weather to get my covers painted or dipped. Think I am leaning towards dipping.

Dave....You could've had a good look at my bits at last Sundays Two Henrys meet (ooooerr). May have helped make your mind up.

[partsforvolvos.com]

an engine's coolant should'nt get any hotter than about 115 degrees.
the thermostat opening at 90' is only halfway across the gauge.

the exhaust area is a different matter ......

[graemewelch]

Dave....You could've had a good look at my bits at last Sundays Two Henrys meet (ooooerr). May have helped make your mind up.

i think you might of spent to much time in thailand you dirty old man, he might be intrested in your engine bay though

[stephenevans99]

lol...