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stribo
Sunday 17th November 2013, 20:21
We picked up our hairdressers car today, drove back all the way with the oil light on, flickering off occasionally, and no boost whatsoever, but no noise from a leaking hose, and none of them seem loose. Biggest problem of the day though was when we got it home, I lowered the roof, to make it easier to clean the interior out, then opened the boot to clean that out too. When I shut the boot the boot open warning light stayed on, and the roof won't raise (I'm guessing the roof won't raise if it thinks the boots open). Anyway I tried changing the lock mechanism over with my car, but no luck, then tried shorting the plug with a bit of wire to get the light out, but that didn't work either. To make matters worse I shut the boot without reconnecting the plug, so now I can't open it! Tried the key that doesn't open it, and obviously the interior release won't work.
So has anyone got any ideas how I can get into the boot? I've had a look at the ski hatch but it has a plastic liner, and I don't think my arm's long enough anyway, and once the boot's open, any ideas how I can get the boot open warning light off?

A couple of pics:
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/WP_000896.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/WP_000896.jpg.html)
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/WP_000900.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/WP_000900.jpg.html)
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/Volvos/WP_000895.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/Volvos/WP_000895.jpg.html)
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/WP_000901.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/WP_000901.jpg.html)
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/WP_000902.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/WP_000902.jpg.html)

Jamest5r
Sunday 17th November 2013, 20:24
Sorry mate but I just pmsl at that post lucky you got a garage

V70 Graham
Sunday 17th November 2013, 20:27
Sorry mate but I just pmsl at that post lucky you got a garage

You've obviously not seen all the stuff in his garage !
Sorry to hear that Steve, I suppose a code reader would clear the light (wouldn't it)

stribo
Sunday 17th November 2013, 20:27
Sorry mate but I just pmsl at that post lucky you got a garage
Yeah, was a rush job tidying it though, as it looked like this:

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/WP_000844.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/WP_000844.jpg.html)

stribo
Sunday 17th November 2013, 20:28
You've obviously not seen all the stuff in his garage !
Sorry to hear that Steve, I suppose a code reader would clear the light (wouldn't it)

Not a boot open light, would only do engine management light.

Biff
Sunday 17th November 2013, 20:42
Sorry mate can't help you but sounds like something I would do.
Car looks well!! :)

oblark
Sunday 17th November 2013, 20:49
This is sign.......................... you know the answer :)

stribo
Sunday 17th November 2013, 20:49
this is sign.......................... You know the answer :)
no.

oblark
Sunday 17th November 2013, 20:54
Who in they right mind fitted a tow bar to a C70 rag top !

Nealevo
Sunday 17th November 2013, 20:55
Will Charlie not fit through the ski hatch ??

V70 Graham
Sunday 17th November 2013, 21:01
Will Charlie not fit through the ski hatch ??

Good thinking Neal, he has to start earning his keep sometime lol

stribo
Sunday 17th November 2013, 21:14
Will Charlie not fit through the ski hatch ??

We can't get him out of the drivers seat:
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/WP_000897.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/WP_000897.jpg.html)

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/Volvos/WP_000899.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/Volvos/WP_000899.jpg.html)

stribo
Sunday 17th November 2013, 21:16
Who in they right mind fitted a tow bar to a C70 rag top !

Pass, it's a removeable one though.

jamesy12345
Monday 18th November 2013, 04:20
A little bit of info here, hopefully it's just the boot lid switch knackered...

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=171704

iancho
Monday 18th November 2013, 08:57
You probably need too heat the boot lock with a Hairdryer or Curling Tongs :P

Kingsford G
Monday 18th November 2013, 09:01
Can`t you get in by folding the back seats down?If it was close enough I`m sure I`d open it,dome many others in the past.Now if you are nice to Mr.Handyman he might help you.:)

stribo
Monday 18th November 2013, 11:12
Can`t you get in by folding the back seats down?If it was close enough I`m sure I`d open it,dome many others in the past.Now if you are nice to Mr.Handyman he might help you.:)

The back seats don't fold down, and the ski hatch is lined so gives no access to the boot, think I'll try taking the back seats out.

oblark
Monday 18th November 2013, 11:29
Just cut the boot open with a disc cutter :)

M-R-P
Monday 18th November 2013, 11:39
By "lined", can you not get a tool of some kind in there to grab the plug?
Also, being made for the US market, does it have an internal boot release handle?

oblark
Monday 18th November 2013, 11:44
By "lined", can you not get a tool of some kind in there to grab the plug?
Also, being made for the US market, does it have an internal boot release handle?

I think it`s broke :(

M-R-P
Monday 18th November 2013, 11:58
I mean one actually in the boot, usually on the boot lid itself. The yanks are really big on "trunk entrapment" (too many gangster movies lol) so they insist on having a method of escape in case you become trapped in your own boot.... why you'd get trapped in your own boot is beyond me... unless the Americans haven't realised that the the light DOES go out when you close the boot.

I wonder how many yanks get trapped inside their own fridge, trying to solve that exact same conundrum...?

jamesy12345
Monday 18th November 2013, 13:01
I mean one actually in the boot, usually on the boot lid itself. The yanks are really big on "trunk entrapment" (too many gangster movies lol) so they insist on having a method of escape in case you become trapped in your own boot.... why you'd get trapped in your own boot is beyond me... unless the Americans haven't realised that the the light DOES go out when you close the boot.

I wonder how many yanks get trapped inside their own fridge, trying to solve that exact same conundrum...?

If a tree falls over in the forest and there is no-one there to hear, does it make a noise?

M-R-P
Monday 18th November 2013, 13:05
If a tree falls over in the forest and there is no-one there to hear, does it make a noise?

Sound, by definition, is the detection of fluctuations in ambient air pressure caused by a physical event. If there's nothing there to detect the fluctuation, does it still make a sound?

Of course it bloody does. It's like saying a light bulb doesn't work unless there's someone around to see it.


:D

jamesy12345
Monday 18th November 2013, 13:17
Sound, by definition, is the detection of fluctuations in ambient air pressure caused by a physical event. If there's nothing there to detect the fluctuation, does it still make a sound?

Of course it bloody does. It's like saying a light bulb doesn't work unless there's someone around to see it.


:D

Fair do's. In space no-one can hear you scream and all that. Unless you are Sandra Bullock. Righto then, there's this cat, in a box, is it alive or dead...?

V70 Graham
Monday 18th November 2013, 13:25
Sound, by definition, is the detection of fluctuations in ambient air pressure caused by a physical event. If there's nothing there to detect the fluctuation, does it still make a sound?

Of course it bloody does. It's like saying a light bulb doesn't work unless there's someone around to see it.


:D


Fair do's. In space no-one can hear you scream and all that. Unless you are Sandra Bullock. Righto then, there's this cat, in a box, is it alive or dead...?

How on earth will this help Steve get into his boot lol

M-R-P
Monday 18th November 2013, 13:28
Fair do's. In space no-one can hear you scream and all that. Unless you are Sandra Bullock.
Sigourney Weaver ;)

Righto then, there's this cat, in a box, is it alive or dead...?
That would depend largely on how hard you've been hitting the box.

How on earth will this help Steve get into his boot lol
Who?

jamesy12345
Monday 18th November 2013, 13:34
How on earth will this help Steve get into his boot lol

Just trying to help work out how to tell if the boot light is still on, if the guy inside is still alive and, if so, can anyone hear him

stephenevans99
Monday 18th November 2013, 13:53
Found this on how to remove the rear seat:

Remove the seat base - this just pops up with a bit of lifting force in the front corners.

You can then get to the 2 bolts that hold the backrest in the bottom corners. The seatbelts need to be removed too - Hint, cable tie the seatbelt clips together. This stops them being recoiled into the recess which would be difficult to get them out of again. Once these bolts have been removed the seat will tilt forwards from the bottom.

Here's the tricky bit, you need to reach behind the seat to release the headrest - there's a little clip holding it in at the base of the headrest post. Difficult to explain, but easy to feel for. Once both headrests are out, the seat back will just lift (upwards) and out. Job done!!!

I think this can only be done with the roof down.

Hope the cat in the box is ok ;)

stribo
Monday 18th November 2013, 14:08
Just cut the boot open with a disc cutter :)
Feck off :P

By "lined", can you not get a tool of some kind in there to grab the plug?
Also, being made for the US market, does it have an internal boot release handle?
No, no internal handle, I think that's a more recent thing.

Found this on how to remove the rear seat:

Remove the seat base - this just pops up with a bit of lifting force in the front corners.

You can then get to the 2 bolts that hold the backrest in the bottom corners. The seatbelts need to be removed too - Hint, cable tie the seatbelt clips together. This stops them being recoiled into the recess which would be difficult to get them out of again. Once these bolts have been removed the seat will tilt forwards from the bottom.

Here's the tricky bit, you need to reach behind the seat to release the headrest - there's a little clip holding it in at the base of the headrest post. Difficult to explain, but easy to feel for. Once both headrests are out, the seat back will just lift (upwards) and out. Job done!!!

I think this can only be done with the roof down.

Hope the cat in the box is ok ;)

Thanks mate most helpful. :B_thumb:

partsforvolvos.com
Monday 18th November 2013, 14:15
The back seats don't fold down, and the ski hatch is lined so gives no access to the boot, think I'll try taking the back seats out.

its a solid bulkhead. got a feeling you cant get in that way. but there might be holes for subs there .

M-R-P
Monday 18th November 2013, 14:16
its a solid bulkhead

...With 2 10" holes in it, plus the ski hatch.

AndysR
Saturday 23rd November 2013, 17:46
I like the colour of that,and it works well with the interior colour too, that said it doesn't sound like it's got a lot going for it if the roof is faulty and the engine is potentially fubbard though... Hope they're all simple fixes...

stribo
Saturday 23rd November 2013, 17:51
I like the colour of that,and it works well with the interior colour too, that said it doesn't sound like it's got a lot going for it if the roof is faulty and the engine is potentially fubbard though... Hope they're all simple fixes...

It's not the roof, it's the boot open warning light, I think a wire may be broken somewhere.

AndysR
Saturday 23rd November 2013, 18:04
It's not the roof, it's the boot open warning light, I think a wire may be broken somewhere.

May not be that bad after all then? Perhaps worst case scenario you could break a rear light to gain access into the boot if they are the sort that the bulb holder is removed from inside the car?

Do you know what's wrong with the oil light, I am guessing it's electrical because you'd be foolish to drive it with an oil pressure fault.

stribo
Saturday 23rd November 2013, 18:09
I'm thinking it's the sensor, there's no noise from the engine to suggest it's got low oil pressure, even the top end is quiet, and I'd expect it to be quite tappety if there was low oil pressure.

V70 Graham
Saturday 23rd November 2013, 18:20
Did you manage to get into/look at the boot today mate ?

stribo
Saturday 23rd November 2013, 18:24
No mate, I'll have to do it tomorrow, which means I won't be at the Vine. :(

stribo
Sunday 24th November 2013, 14:54
Got a spare couple of hours to work on the car today, first off I took the back seat out (big thanks to Stephen Evans, instructions were spot on mate) and look what I found:

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/Volvos/WP_000904.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/Volvos/WP_000904.jpg.html)

Tempted to nick them for my car, but can't be doing with the hassle of wiring them up. Anyway with the seats out, I could take the ski hatch out, and with a metal bar managed to release the boot. :D I connected the boot lock back up, shut the boot (first checking the boot release worked) and the light went straight out :slap: Why couldn't it have done that last week? So now it has a working roof again. :funkybana

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/Volvos/WP_000908.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/Volvos/WP_000908.jpg.html)

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/Volvos/WP_000907.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/Volvos/WP_000907.jpg.html)

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/Volvos/WP_000905.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/Volvos/WP_000905.jpg.html)

Next up I started rerouting the boost hoses to bypass the intercooler so I could confirm/rule out if that is where it's leaking boost from. Unfortunately Rachel had to go to work, so it'll have to wait until next week now. :(

Harvey
Sunday 24th November 2013, 14:57
Nice to see the roof up,so not to bad of a job..

stribo
Sunday 24th November 2013, 14:59
Nice to see the roof up,so not to bad of a job..

The hardest part was getting the boot open because of the restricted access to the boot.

rikcougar
Sunday 24th November 2013, 15:07
Nice work Steve,car looks in good nick

Have you sold the "R" or wrapped it round a tree?

stribo
Sunday 24th November 2013, 15:13
Nice work Steve,car looks in good nick

Have you sold the "R" or wrapped it round a tree?

No, still got the R, this one's is purely to do up and sell on though Rachel's taken a shine to it.lol

V70 Graham
Sunday 24th November 2013, 15:14
Glad to see the roof/boot are sorted mate, bet you won't be making that mistake again eh lol

stribo
Sunday 24th November 2013, 15:15
Glad to see the roof/boot are sorted mate, bet you won't be making that mistake again eh lol

No, that's what happens when you're trying to work on the car, and look after a bored 1 year old. ;)

oblark
Sunday 24th November 2013, 15:53
Personally I would be concentrating on the low oil pressure. You now have a working roof but you could have ££££ed engine.

stribo
Sunday 24th November 2013, 15:57
Yes, but now the roof's up I've got the garage back.

oblark
Sunday 24th November 2013, 17:22
But the first thing you should have done when you got the car was to look at the oil pressure problem.

stribo
Sunday 24th November 2013, 17:27
I couldn't, the roof was stuck down, and as Rachel works weekends now I don't get a lot of time.

oblark
Sunday 24th November 2013, 17:29
I'll put my disc cutter away for the time being :)

oblark
Tuesday 26th November 2013, 17:02
If you are after any cream coloured trim panels then I know where they are 2 ME7 C70`s in a breakers at Emsworth :)

stribo
Saturday 7th December 2013, 15:15
Right got a bit of time on the C70 today, first off I changed the coilpacks, with nice new ones:
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/WP_000940.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/WP_000940.jpg.html)

The plastic piping around the wires has gone brittle, and is breaking up, is it worth wrapping them in insulation tape, or will they be o.k. left as is?

Second job was to adapt the boost hoses to bypass the intercooler to see if that was the cause of the boost leak:
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RSCougar/WP_000941.jpg (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/RSCougar/media/WP_000941.jpg.html)

Took the car for a spin, but there is still no boost. :slap: I'm guessing the turbo's goosed, as when I got back the pipe across the top of the engine was still cold, it also started making a screeching noise from the back of the engine as I was near home:

http://youtu.be/y_XBttQX6PA
So when I get time I'll take the inlet hose off and see if there's any movement in the turbo or if it's seized.

And Rob, the oil pressure problem will be checked when the oil pressure sensor arrives from JT, but the light hardly came on today.

V70 Graham
Saturday 7th December 2013, 15:39
My plastic piping has also gone brittle mate, I left mine like that and 18 months on everything is fine.

mikealder
Saturday 7th December 2013, 16:06
For the wiring to the coil packs get some new "split convoluted conduit" from the "bay" and replace it all, one it will look neater and secondly it will reduce the chances of bits of plastic dropping down the coil pack holes when you change the spark plugs.

As for your lack of boost are all the small vac lines connected, un-split and more importantly connected in the correct way, I would be checking the simple stuff such as this before assuming the turbo is goosed, also have a good look at the intercooler, is that holed or split, you won't get the turbo to spin up much with the car sat still but it is worth pulling the pipe of the turbos inlet and ensuring it can spin freely by hand.

For the oil pressure, I would replace the simple switch with a pressure sender then read the pressure on a gauge this lets you see what is going on with the oil pressure across a range of engine temperatures and revs, you can get sender units that act as dual function i.e. they provide a low pressure switch and give out an oil pressure signal for the gauge, this would be my first task on this engine before doing anything else as it could prove costly to fix if the oil pressure is as low as the light leads you to believe - Mike

oblark
Saturday 7th December 2013, 16:22
I think the oil pressure problem is nothing compared to the possible goosed turbo.

I'll warm the disc cutter up :)

graemewelch
Saturday 7th December 2013, 17:00
is that a d5 or a t5? i wouldnt be reving it or driving it. you can clearly hear theres a oil pressure issue. i bet the cams are now in poor condition. if it was mine. id rip the engine out and buy a new lump with turbo. i bet the turbo is either very worn or siezed due to lack of oil pressure.

stribo
Saturday 7th December 2013, 17:37
For the wiring to the coil packs get some new "split convoluted conduit" from the "bay" and replace it all, one it will look neater and secondly it will reduce the chances of bits of plastic dropping down the coil pack holes when you change the spark plugs.

As for your lack of boost are all the small vac lines connected, un-split and more importantly connected in the correct way, I would be checking the simple stuff such as this before assuming the turbo is goosed, also have a good look at the intercooler, is that holed or split, you won't get the turbo to spin up much with the car sat still but it is worth pulling the pipe of the turbos inlet and ensuring it can spin freely by hand.

I changed the pipework to bypass the intercooler in order to rule out the intercooler.

For the oil pressure, I would replace the simple switch with a pressure sender then read the pressure on a gauge this lets you see what is going on with the oil pressure across a range of engine temperatures and revs, you can get sender units that act as dual function i.e. they provide a low pressure switch and give out an oil pressure signal for the gauge, this would be my first task on this engine before doing anything else as it could prove costly to fix if the oil pressure is as low as the light leads you to believe - Mike


I think the oil pressure problem is nothing compared to the possible goosed turbo.

I'll warm the disc cutter up :)

Turbo's no problem, I have a spare. Step away from the disc cutter. :P


is that a d5 or a t5? i wouldnt be reving it or driving it. you can clearly hear theres a oil pressure issue. i bet the cams are now in poor condition. if it was mine. id rip the engine out and buy a new lump with turbo. i bet the turbo is either very worn or siezed due to lack of oil pressure.

It's no noisier than my C70, apart from the 'screeching' ;)

oblark
Saturday 7th December 2013, 18:09
:hilarious

isn`t the spare turbo meant to go on the gay gold c70 ??

daza-b
Saturday 7th December 2013, 18:12
That screeching sounds like a pully?

rikcougar
Saturday 7th December 2013, 18:13
Turbo's no problem, I have a spare. Step away from the disc cutter. :P



It's no noisier than my C70, apart from the 'screeching' ;)

Sounds a lot like mine Steve

If there is no boost at all and everything is physically ok then check the maf

I have had two cars in the past that have suffered from the same problem, both of which were fixed with a new maf

stribo
Saturday 7th December 2013, 18:18
:hilarious

isn`t the spare turbo meant to go on the gay gold c70 ??

Yep, so they'll be the old one from my C70 spare. ;)

stribo
Saturday 7th December 2013, 18:19
Sounds a lot like mine Steve

If there is no boost at all and everything is physically ok then check the maf

I have had two cars in the past that have suffered from the same problem, both of which were fixed with a new maf

Thanks Rik, I probably should have mentioned that the rad fan runs all the time, I think that has something to do with a faulty MAF too.

stribo
Saturday 7th December 2013, 18:20
That screeching sounds like a pully?

It does, but it's coming from the back of the engine, so I'm guessing turbo.

T5frankie
Saturday 7th December 2013, 18:24
bloody mafs do my bloody head in, i need another one now too

stribo
Saturday 7th December 2013, 18:27
bloody mafs do my bloody head in, i need another one now too

Luckily I have a spare MAF too, funny how many spare parts you can accumulate in 18 months.

AndysR
Saturday 7th December 2013, 23:49
I would swap the maf of your other car for testing purposes and see if that improves the boosting, but not before I was happy that the oil pressure light issue was just a sender fault and not an actual pressure fault as you will do a lot of damage in not a lot of time if you continue to use it with low to no oil pressure, if the pressure is at fault then it's very possible the noise your hearing from the turbo is indeed the turbo internals being destroyed due to insufficient lubrication. Fingers crossed it's simply the maf and oil pressure switch that are the issues, if it was my car however I wouldn't be so lucky on both counts.

In respect of the wiring covers I'd replace them for piece of mind and as mentioned above without the brittle plastic lying around you will have no chance of it entering the engine by accident when you change the plugs during a service etc.

merc85
Saturday 7th December 2013, 23:59
I've had oil pressure switches leak before but they still continued to do there job. Its quite rare for one to fail, why not take the switch out of the c70 coupe and try that in the cab?

Doesn't sound good tbh :(

stribo
Sunday 4th May 2014, 10:25
Well, project cabbie is over before it really began. About 4 weeks ago one of our neighbours hit it with their company van. :( It only needs the wing replacing and the front bumper respraying, but the insurance company have written it off. On the plus side they're giving us £1075 for it which is over double what we paid for it. :D