P2 tuning query

[Kingsford G]

Just wondering what sort of power can standard clatches take and is there a SMF avalable for these or can you fit something else?I know the stock one cost a lot of money,near 1G I believe.With a remap what can you achieve with a stage 1 map and stock exhaust and as I hear about cracked housing on these what causes that?

[jdavis]

Martin (M R P) has just had his p2 t5 remapped at hlm and saw good gains on his base bhp.
Rica or bsr website will give you ideas of what to expect from remaps

[M-R-P]

Autotec map sees these engines past 320bhp.
Smf conversion is about 400 quid. I got a LUK dmf for 370 quid. The only difference between the standard clutch and the R clutch appears to be the springs.

[Kingsford G]

Martin (M R P) has just had his p2 t5 remapped at hlm and saw good gains on his base bhp.
Rica or bsr website will give you ideas of what to expect from remaps


Autotec map sees these engines past 320bhp.
Smf conversion is about 400 quid. I got a LUK dmf for 370 quid. The only difference between the standard clutch and the R clutch appears to be the springs.
Apparently you need greens going 320bhp+,just want to hear a personal experience ideal with a dyno chart.

[M-R-P]

Graeme is still running blues with no trouble mate.

[T5frankie]

estate/station wagon with 4/5 seats
How long?
4710 mm
How heavy?
1549 kg
What size engine?
2.4 litre, 2401 cm3
How many cylinders?
5, Straight
How much power?
260 PS / 256 bhp / 191 kW @ 5500 rpm
How much torque?
350 Nm / 258 ft.lb / 35.7 kgm @ 2100-5000 rpm
How quick?
0-60 mph: 6.40 s
How quick?
0-100 km/h: 6.80 s
How fast?
250 km/h, 155 mph
How economical?
12.8/7.4/9.5 l/100km urban/extra-urban/combined
What carbon dioxide emissions?
226 CO2 g/km

[M-R-P]

nice to know my remap is showing more torque :)

[t5 pete]

I think dreamer on t5d5 is now mapping these

[M-R-P]

I think dreamer on t5d5 is now mapping these

I thought he'd just done a live data logging program. Don't recall seeing. anything about a map. but then I'm not on there much.

[graemewelch]

i got 328 bhp on blue injectors. no need for greens. i even ran stg 2 on blue with no problems. ill see if i can find the dyno print out for you. anything you need to know give me a shout

[Kingsford G]

I think dreamer on t5d5 is now mapping these
Yes he does but would like someones personal experience on that.

i got 328 bhp on blue injectors. no need for greens. i even ran stg 2 on blue with no problems. ill see if i can find the dyno print out for you. anything you need to know give me a shout

Cheers mate.How much am I looking to spend on the system and down pipe mate?

[graemewelch]

Yes he does but would like someones personal experience on that.


Cheers mate.How much am I looking to spend on the system and down pipe mate?

525 mate, just so happens i have all the stuff lying about to do another v70 exhaust apart from middle silencer, here are the hlm graphs. not the best pic and i cant find the graph anywear

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20120608_222649.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20120608_222649.jpg.html)

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/gwexhausts/20120608_222453.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/gwexhausts/media/20120608_222453.jpg.html)

[Kingsford G]

That looks good mate.The torque comes in much earlier after mapping.So You got 327bhp.Did u have the exhaust done as well

[graemewelch]

That looks good mate.The torque comes in much earlier after mapping.So You got 327bhp.Did u have the exhaust done as well

at the time it had tgi filter 200 cell and exhaust and a fmic. it also had a dodgy lamda to which showed up as soon as it was mapped. it drove much better when i replaced it. since then ive added a few more toys which if anything have sharpened throttle responce.

[Kingsford G]

Now I`ve driven her properly for the 1st time and in gears 2,3,4 as from 1500rpm she pulls similar to a diesel so is this how it suppose to be as stock?As far as I know before sale they put a stock sofware back on ex-plods or am I wrong?

[V70 Graham]

Now I`ve driven her properly for the 1st time and in gears 2,3,4 as from 1500rpm she pulls similar to a diesel so is this how it suppose to be as stock?As far as I know before sale they put a stock sofware back on ex-plods or am I wrong?

I think what it is mate is that it's sitting so high up, remember oxygen is thinner the higher the altitude !

[Kingsford G]

I think what it is mate is that it's sitting so high up, remember oxygen is thinner the higher the altitude !

LOL.Its not breathing with its @ss mate.

[graemewelch]

Now I`ve driven her properly for the 1st time and in gears 2,3,4 as from 1500rpm she pulls similar to a diesel so is this how it suppose to be as stock?As far as I know before sale they put a stock sofware back on ex-plods or am I wrong?

thats how they are. useable power throughout the rev range. 40mph in 6th and they still pull hard

[LiamT4]

What is the tax on a 54-55 plate 2.4 t5?

[Kingsford G]

thats how they are. useable power throughout the rev range. 40mph in 6th and they still pull hard

I see.It makes it more relaxing to drive without down shifting to accelerate.Even urban gear change at 2000k like you do on diesels is very good,absolutely loving it.

[T5RatherAmusin]

What is the tax on a 54-55 plate 2.4 t5?

150 ish on mine

get the xorst dont kingsford. thats a good price from grae!!
some realllll nice gains from the downpipe!! spools much quicker!! ;)

[expolicev70t5]

What is the tax on a 54-55 plate 2.4 t5?

240 for 12 months tax on ex plods :D

[LiamT4]

I see.It makes it more relaxing to drive without down shifting to accelerate.Even urban gear change at 2000k like you do on diesels is very good,absolutely loving it.

That's why I love big v8s. 60mph@1500rpm in top and it would still pull.

[Kingsford G]

What is the tax on a 54-55 plate 2.4 t5?
£123 for 6 months

That's why I love big v8s. 60mph@1500rpm in top and it would still pull.

I actually thought while driving her,hmm,is this what Liam ment by saying a big NA power?

[Kingsford G]

150 ish on mine

get the xorst dont kingsford. thats a good price from grae!!
some realllll nice gains from the downpipe!! spools much quicker!! ;)

I have to save up for this one but really interested.

[LiamT4]

£123 for 6 months


I actually thought while driving her,hmm,is this what Liam ment by saying a big NA power?

I can't remember if i've been in a 2.4t5, but my 540 drove quite a bit differently to the 2.3 s60t5s I've driven. But the 2.4 does have a few bits that are different to the 2.3, the turbo for a start, maybe the k24 is less laggy the ones in the 2.3.

[M-R-P]

the 2.4 is a lot less laggy and the blower can be turned up a lot too.

[Dream3r]

You've got the wrong end of the stick, I said I recommend greens or vxr's as it appears the greens get pushed hard at 330 bhp. I also said you should look at the OE setup for a big clue, meaning the 300BHP R's came with greens.

A dyno print is one thing but no-where do I see injector opening time or duty cycle. For all you know they could be running at 120%!! Also target AFR and actual AFR can give a clue but we don't see that either.

I know of a few R's that have run out of injector running a hybrid K24 on greens. Fuel pump duty cycle is another variable but I reckon it's close to 100% pump duty cycle and very high injector DC at 330bhp @ 5500rpm on blues, conjecture of course but have a look and do the maths.

[Wobbly Dave]

I have a BNIB TTV DMF replacement. I was going to use it on my rebuild but now will send it back to Dom @Kalmer Union unless you want it. It's a DMF solid replacement so you will need a sprung clutch friction plate to go with it.

Glossary of Terms (apologies for using too many TLAs)
BNIB = Brand New in Box
TTV = Racing parts company - http://ttvracing.com/
DMF = Dual Mass Flywheel
TLA = Three letter abbreviations.

[V70 Graham]

glossary of terms (apologies for using too many tlas)
bnib = brand new in box
ttv = racing parts company - http://ttvracing.com/
dmf = dual mass flywheel
tla = three letter abbreviations.

wtf ?

[Wobbly Dave]

You want me to add that to the glossary of terms too?

[V70 Graham]

You want me to add that to the glossary of terms too?

Hahahahaha you'd better not.

[M-R-P]

Now I`ve driven her properly for the 1st time and in gears 2,3,4 as from 1500rpm she pulls similar to a diesel so is this how it suppose to be as stock?As far as I know before sale they put a stock sofware back on ex-plods or am I wrong?
They don't map plod cars mate (except in very special situations like SCO response cars but it's very rare) they just remove the speed limiters. The later engines are designed not to feel like a turbo, so you won't get that kick-up-the-bum as it pulls through the revs that you get with the older cars.