Max stable psi anyone has out of 16t, 18t and 19t?

[T5REU]

What's the max stable psi anyone has had of these turbo's? I have a stage 2 shark map and I hold 15psi to the red line. I ask have a fmic fitted and 05 air box and larger pipe. Also got w/I too but not used as yet. Shark haven't mapped for these extras as yet. Not sure if they would get me more then 15psi if they did also they seem to think they can. Any one got more? The car is the 01 s60.

2nd has anyone ever fitted at 18t or 19t wheel or turbo to their s60 or v70 phase 2?
What max psi did u get and how would u compare against the 16t these turbos arnt that big in any event and only slightly larger.
3rd who can provide maps for an 18t or 19t on a phase 2?shark can, they aren't too keen and say it will take a week of messing around to get a custom map costing £600 for the 19t . They say I wouldn't really get a noticeable boost to justify the extra cost of the map and upgrading the rods.

[M-R-P]

The rica 310 is supposed to be designed for the 18t.

I've been running a stable 16psi with my 16t for a while with a bleed valve ;)

[T5REU]

Bleed valve? Does that work on a phase 2 thought they only worked on phase 1's. I have a spare 19t turbo in the garage with focus rs injectors. I was thinking of install them but shark seem to think there is no point as the 19t will boost to fast and bend my rods and not much difference in bhp. I was going to buy a new wheel for it and was thinking of a bullet 18t or a 19t clipped wheel as they boost slightly better. I'll message shark and see what they have for a 18t. Don't want to b without a car for a week.

[M-R-P]

Mine boosted to 22psi at 2200 rpm and didn't bend anything.

You won't need those injectors - loads of people are running 2.4 T5s with 320+ bhp and blue ME7 injectors.

[graemewelch]

ive never heard of rods bending in a phase 2. just go for it. tell shark youll sign a clause saying they arnt responsible if you bend rods. they are probobly just being cautious

[T5frankie]

19T's can run 22psi

[T5REU]

Just taken car out on the track. On lpg the 16t is boosting 15psi but causing too much wheel spin due to weather will do another run tomorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjryUima1RY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[T5REU]

My car is the 2001 s60 rids are weaker I'm told :(. Like u say I have the 19t already so no big job to fit it. Just won't have a car for a week as will take that long for them to tune it

[T5REU]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjryUima1RY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[M-R-P]

You need better tyres mate.

Anf ffs turn Elton off before filming :D

[V70 Graham]

You need better tyres mate.

Anf ffs turn Elton off before filming :D

I was quite enjoying that lol

[M-R-P]

I was quite enjoying that lol

gay.

[T5RatherAmusin]

fpmsl at the chilling music there bud!
thats quite bad traction there even mine does fine in the wet :D
your 19t will be fine on current map too. but as you know, need more boost! :D

[stribo]

I was quite enjoying that lol


gay.

Can't beat a bit of Daniel. :D

[M-R-P]

Can't beat a bit of Daniel. :D

Which bit?

[T5REU]

Love a bit of Daniel, that's a good reply hahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXUQ52sHGL8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[T5REU]

Raining really hard here and The track is proper slippy there.

[M-R-P]

Needs a service now lol.

[T5REU]

Will get some longer and better runs in the week. Any choice of music? Ha

[T5REU]

Stop taking the pics haha. Need to get that stupid light off. Will plug Vida back in see if I can delete it from there

[T5REU]

My phone does like swear words. Piss not pics ha

[T5REU]

So need to get people to list their max psi they got with the turbo fitted. Want to know what's the max anyone has had out of the 16t, 18t and 19t range of turbos. I've heard 15psi is the max I can get? Plus do the 2.3 t5 have the same injectors as the 2.4's? So wish I'd bought a bloody facelift t5 now. Although my car is loads of fun once u hit a target I find I always want more ha

[M-R-P]

So need to get people to list their max psi they got with the turbo fitted. Want to know what's the max anyone has had out of the 16t, 18t and 19t range of turbos. I've heard 15psi is the max I can get? Plus do the 2.3 t5 have the same injectors as the 2.4's? So wish I'd bought a bloody facelift t5 now. Although my car is loads of fun once u hit a target I find I always want more ha

Blue injectors (which yours should have) will be fine mate. they're in all T5 ME7 cars as far as I know.

[T5frankie]

So need to get people to list their max psi they got with the turbo fitted. Want to know what's the max anyone has had out of the 16t, 18t and 19t range of turbos. I've heard 15psi is the max I can get? Plus do the 2.3 t5 have the same injectors as the 2.4's? So wish I'd bought a bloody facelift t5 now. Although my car is loads of fun once u hit a target I find I always want more ha

there is a reason its mapped to 15 psi because that is whats safe, if you put a 19t on at 15psi it will will boost harder than a 16t at 15psi so you will have more power just from changing the turbo

[T5REU]

Little history with the chrome map setup. I got the car mapped 2 years ago. Rolling road prior to map was 248bhp after map was 251bhp. Ben tested everything and saw that the actuator was shot. Didn't have one in Stock so sent me away saying get a new one fitted and bring us the car back so we can set it up. Anyway a week later Tim Williams sent me a Spare old actuator he had knocking around. I installed that and the boost went from 9psi to 15psi and the car was ace. I never went back to shark to get them to set it up due to a 2 hour drive and I planned o doing other mods before returning which I have now only just completed. I called them last week and they said bring the car back and we will fine tune it with the extras u now have for £170 plus vat which I thought is good. Ben said if I stall the 19t it would be a weeks work for then to tune £600 instead for only a small about of extra power. He said it wasn't possible to guess what the bhp would likely to be due to every car being different and they do t do many 19t's on s60s

[T5REU]

You need better tyres mate.

Anf ffs turn Elton off before filming :D

Need get some winter tyres on. Summer tyres fitted.

Funny quote lol

[T5REU]

What gaskets and fittings do I need to fit the 19t . thought I'd keep the exhaust housing in place and just release the banjo clip and swap the compressor, what u think? Will get forge actuator to.

[T5frankie]

Little history with the chrome map setup. I got the car mapped 2 years ago. Rolling road prior to map was 248bhp after map was 251bhp. Ben tested everything and saw that the actuator was shot. Didn't have one in Stock so sent me away saying get a new one fitted and bring us the car back so we can set it up. Anyway a week later Tim Williams sent me a Spare old actuator he had knocking around. I installed that and the boost went from 9psi to 15psi and the car was ace. I never went back to shark to get them to set it up due to a 2 hour drive and I planned o doing other mods before returning which I have now only just completed. I called them last week and they said bring the car back and we will fine tune it with the extras u now have for £170 plus vat which I thought is good. Ben said if I stall the 19t it would be a weeks work for then to tune £600 instead for only a small about of extra power. He said it wasn't possible to guess what the bhp would likely to be due to every car being different and they do t do many 19t's on s60s

you can get alot more power form a 19t than a 16t mate

[p fandango]

19t (with billet wheel), 344bhp@1.5bar

[T5frankie]

19t (with billet wheel), 344bhp@1.5bar

can get more with a tim williams map

[p fandango]

can get more with a tim williams map
would that be using the 100bhp transmission loses of Power Engineerings dyno lol

[T5frankie]

would that be using the 100bhp transmission loses of Power Engineerings dyno lol

power engineering?

[p fandango]

power engineering?
PowerStation, near enough lol

[Brett855tdi]

What gaskets and fittings do I need to fit the 19t . thought I'd keep the exhaust housing in place and just release the banjo clip and swap the compressor, what u think? Will get forge actuator to.

From what i know that wont work.... different sized compressor needs a different wheel (meaning the turbo will need to also be re balanced if you change it)

Also as most of us know the 3" flange and 3" DP is what you really want on a 19T setup

[T5REU]

[QUOTE=Brett855tdi;659759]From what i know that wont work.... different sized compressor needs a different wheel (meaning the turbo will need to also be re balanced if you change it)

Also as most of us know the 3" flange and 3" DP is what you really want on a 19T setup[/QUOTE

I'm told the hot side wheels are the same for all td04hl range its only the cold side are different sizes.

I have a 3 inch down pipe. 3" flange? Not sure if I have that. Where do I get that from and where does it fit?

[T5RatherAmusin]

when did you get the 3"dp? lol

[p fandango]

I'm told the hot side wheels are the same for all td04hl range its only the cold side are different sizes.
they are. I'd also recommend a 3" throttle body & 3" Rip with a 19t, i was very disappointed with the lag without them

[T5frankie]

my 19t has a straight outlet

[Brett855tdi]

[QUOTE=Brett855tdi;659759]From what i know that wont work.... different sized compressor needs a different wheel (meaning the turbo will need to also be re balanced if you change it)

Also as most of us know the 3" flange and 3" DP is what you really want on a 19T setup[/QUOTE

I'm told the hot side wheels are the same for all td04hl range its only the cold side are different sizes.

I have a 3 inch down pipe. 3" flange? Not sure if I have that. Where do I get that from and where does it fit?

Yea the hot side wheels are the same... as they are all TD04 units.... however the cold side wheels are different

The hot side output of the turbo (where your dp bolts onto) Is usually a 2.5" bore 15g 16t etc etc
So theres not too much point in a 3" system if your running a 2.5" flange... a bottle neck is a bottle neck
Im not 100% sure where the 3" hotside came from but im under the impression its from the s60r 19t (im sure i will be corrected if im wrong there)

[stribo]

[QUOTE=T5REU;659770]

Yea the hot side wheels are the same... as they are all TD04 units.... however the cold side wheels are different

The hot side output of the turbo (where your dp bolts onto) Is usually a 2.5" bore 15g 16t etc etc
So theres not too much point in a 3" system if your running a 2.5" flange... a bottle neck is a bottle neck
Im not 100% sure where the 3" hotside came from but im under the impression its from the s60r 19t (im sure i will be corrected if im wrong there)

S60R has a KKK K24 turbo, not a 19t.

[deathrider311271]

P1 ME7 onwards have the 3" angled hotside

[T5REU]

when did you get the 3"dp? lol

Came last week. U sent me the link u forgotten lol

[T5REU]

[QUOTE=T5REU;659770]

Yea the hot side wheels are the same... as they are all TD04 units.... however the cold side wheels are different

The hot side output of the turbo (where your dp bolts onto) Is usually a 2.5" bore 15g 16t etc etc
So theres not too much point in a 3" system if your running a 2.5" flange... a bottle neck is a bottle neck
Im not 100% sure where the 3" hotside came from but im under the impression its from the s60r 19t (im sure i will be corrected if im wrong there)
So not much point in installing the 3inch down pipe then. Do all phase 2 have the bottle neck flange?

[T5REU]

Where would I get a 3inch throttle body from? What is a rip?

[M-R-P]

The 3" dp allows for a larger cat and therefore better flow. Remember, the cat is restrictive so the better the flow through it the better it breathes.

[M-R-P]

Where would I get a 3inch throttle body from? What is a rip?

You already have a 3" throttle and a rip - it's the pipe that runs over the top of the engine. These 850/P1 boys often forget that Volvo made engines properly after 1999 ;)

[smithy]

You already have a 3" throttle and a rip - it's the pipe that runs over the top of the engine. These 850/P1 boys often forget that Volvo made engines properly after 1999 ;)

I've never seen a whiteblock do over a million mile like the engines of old that Volvo built .sorry I had to get that one in pmsl

[T5REU]

The 3" dp allows for a larger cat and therefore better flow. Remember, the cat is restrictive so the better the flow through it the better it breathes.
I have a s60r downpipe fitted without the cat. So running no cat at all. I also have a 3 inch down pipe without a car which I haven't fitted yet. Not sure if the 3 inch down pipe will give me any more benefit over the R decat one fitted now. The R downpipe was bigger then the standard 01 fitted to my car

[M-R-P]

Probably ok as you are then mate. But have you had the rear lambda deleted? ME7 gets hissy with a decat otherwise.

[T5RatherAmusin]

the dp youd of ordered is much better than the std r one. trust me ull notice a nice gain and responsivness!
if theres anything u need help with jus msg me phil ;)

[p fandango]

These 850/P1 boys often forget that Volvo made engines properly after 1999 ;)
with such reliable features like the DIM & ETM, theirs not many P2 owners who can afford to modify the cars once they've got them running again so they do get forgotten about lol

[kyekye09]

with such reliable features like the DIM & ETM, theirs not many P2 owners who can afford to modify the cars once they've got them running again so they do get forgotten about lol

ah but most p2 owners are die hard and will persist.....

why repair when you can modify lol :D

[stribo]

You already have a 3" throttle and a rip - it's the pipe that runs over the top of the engine. These 850/P1 boys often forget that Volvo made engines properly after 1999 ;)

Isn't that because Ford had bought them by then?

[Nealevo]

Isn't that because Ford had bought them by then?

dammm you steve, you beat me to it!!!

[T5REU]

Probably ok as you are then mate. But have you had the rear lambda deleted? ME7 gets hissy with a decat otherwise.
How will I kno
W if it's been deleted? Would shark have done that or would I have to have asked them first? I get no dash lights on. What sort of effect would my car display of its not bee. Deleted?

[T5RatherAmusin]

if youve got no eml , shark wouldav done it....
ive got a o2 bung spacer- does the job lol

[stribo]

dammm you steve, you beat me to it!!!

Lol, you need to get up earlier.;)

[graemewelch]

dammm you steve, you beat me to it!!!


with such reliable features like the DIM & ETM, theirs not many P2 owners who can afford to modify the cars once they've got them running again so they do get forgotten about lol


Isn't that because Ford had bought them by then?

owned mine 3 years now and can honestly say ive barley spent anything on it for repairs. its had tyres front brakes and a dmf nd clutch. apart from that trouble free. i wont include the ppc going wrong as thats nothing to do with the car but the rica machine going pete tong

[T5REU]

So let's get this straight; clearly not many phase 2 guys are running 18 or 19t's but fitting the 19t on shouldn't do the car any harm and my 16t 15psi will feel loads more running the 19t I have?

Would I be best to upgrade the 19t whee to a ARD or ADR bullet wheel? Clipped or or 12x12 or 11x11?https://ardideas.3dcartstores.com/Billet-Wheels_c_134.html
They even do a 20t wheel which will hold over 25 psi
https://ardideas.3dcartstores.com/850-1994-1997_c_13.html
3) would I gain much from fitting the 3 inch decat down pipe from the S60r decat one I have fitted?

[graemewelch]

down pipe wise if youve fitted a 2.5 inch one thats its not going to be as good as the 3". try drinking from a straw and put a slight kink in it. this is what your doing to your turbo. your making it work harder than it needs to.

[kyekye09]

So let's get this straight; clearly not many phase 2 guys are running 18 or 19t's but fitting the 19t on shouldn't do the car any harm and my 16t 15psi will feel loads more running the 19t I have?

Would I be best to upgrade the 19t whee to a ARD or ADR bullet wheel? Clipped or or 12x12 or 11x11?https://ardideas.3dcartstores.com/Billet-Wheels_c_134.html
They even do a 20t wheel which will hold over 25 psi
https://ardideas.3dcartstores.com/850-1994-1997_c_13.html
3) would I gain much from fitting the 3 inch decat down pipe from the S60r decat one I have fitted?


stupid question but........
doesn't the T5 come with an 18T....???? I was looking at getting my turbo refurbed and doing a 19T but according to turbo technics it runs an 18T I will try and find the info I was reading

[kyekye09]

link

http://www.turborebuild.co.uk/p/product/1108164731-Mitsubishi+TD04HL-18T+CHRA+Core+49189-08540/

[T5frankie]

stupid question but........
doesn't the T5 come with an 18T....???? I was looking at getting my turbo refurbed and doing a 19T but according to turbo technics it runs an 18T I will try and find the info I was reading

err no, 16t

[Brett855tdi]

Isn't that because Ford had bought them by then?

Personally i think ford ruined volvos... I often borrow my dads 2.4 v50 and hate it

It even smells like a 90s escort

Give me an 850 anyday!

[kyekye09]

err no, 16t

can you tell im from a Honda back ground.... lol



so is the 18 or 19T an easy swap onto the T5 s60

[p fandango]

They even do a 20t wheel which will hold over 25 psi
https://ardideas.3dcartstores.com/850-1994-1997_c_13.html
i'm currently building a 20t, you will need to either buy the 20t housing or might possibly be able to get the 19t machined out as the wheel is only 1.04mm wider on the inducer side. They also recommend you use the upgraded 11blade exhaust wheel with the 20t to control the boost better

turbo cfm inducer exducer

TD04H-15g 428 42 56
TD04H-16t 435 43.4 56
TD04H-18t 485 45 56
TD04H-19t 500 46 58
TD04H-20t ??? 47.04 58

[T5REU]

Take a look at this from the part owner of ipd us http://www.ardtuning.com/ARD-TD04HL-Billet-20T_p_228.html
400bhp 20t turbo. Just reach the 19t cold wheel. Wow!

[T5frankie]

can you tell im from a Honda back ground.... lol



so is the 18 or 19T an easy swap onto the T5 s60
yeah direct fit mate