finally fitted my induction cone, not impressed

[no1tosh]

i managed to nab an old intercooler pipe from an xc60 we've had in work, so straight home and fitted my pipercross.
i took it out and all i can here is a plasticy sigh when i let off the throttle. No induction noise, no wastegate chatter, just what sounds like the turbo pushing air back through to the cone when i let off and he rest of the time like i still have the airbox on!!!! :mad:

[T5frankie]

have you fitted the blanking plate on the turbo?

[no1tosh]

ya mate, there's a forge one fitted because of the dump valve.

[T5frankie]

how much boost you running?

[no1tosh]

0.75 bar on a bleed valve, baileys dump valve and forge blanking plate.

[stribo]

Have you taken the insulation off under the bonnet?

[no1tosh]

not yet, although it did cross my mind

[merc85]

ditch the bailey DV, there pony, wouldnt surprise me if its faulty

[no1tosh]

problem is, the car came with it and i have no recirclation valve to refit. or is there another way?

[merc85]

yeah run without it, i have been for two years never had a problem

[claymore]

Just run without a recirc valve

[no1tosh]

can i just ask if you have no dump valve and no recirclation then where does the spare boost go?? and what effect does it have???

cheers

[claymore]

the effect is what you are looking for. :)

[no1tosh]

cool ok, so no lack of performance then?

so i just pull the vac pipe off, block or leave open?

so does anyone have the plastic pipe from the top of the intercooler to the throttle body. the last owner has cut it in half to install the dump valve

[claymore]

No, you can't just pull the vac pipe off, because it's a boost pipe as well, it keeps the dump valve closed under boost.

[Biff]

Block it off with a bolt or similar jubilee clipped. Mine chatters with standard air box & no DV.

[M-R-P]

I've seen the dv removed and the head of a hammer jubilee clipped in its place lol.

[MIKESC70T5]

I've seen the dv removed and the head of a hammer jubilee clipped in its place lol.

Was it Frankies car :hidesbehi

[T5frankie]

Was it Frankies car :hidesbehi

so now my cars are bodge jobs as well? :rolleyes:

[no1tosh]

just blocked off the dv happyness, sod dump valves ive just turned every head in darwen hahahaha. That is so much more perverse than a dv.

i just need to get that plastic pipe now and get that thing out from under there:smile:

thanks again guys

[Biff]

That's the way son! Big fat cone goin under my bonnet soon. Lol

[merc85]

just blocked off the dv happyness, sod dump valves ive just turned every head in darwen hahahaha. That is so much more perverse than a dv.

i just need to get that plastic pipe now and get that thing out from under there:smile:

thanks again guys


Well done mate enjoy :)

[M-R-P]

Get a video up dude ;)

[Biff]

Get a video up dude ;)

Can I upload a video to photo bucket & link it like a photo Martin?

[M-R-P]

Best if you upload it to youtube mate, you'll only be able to link it to the pb page that it's on and the buffering is crap on pb.

Or email it to me and I'll put it on my youtube channel :)

[Biff]

Think that would be best. I wanna do a before & after with the induction kit. Lol
Cheers mate!

[M-R-P]

Think that would be best. I wanna do a before & after with the induction kit. Lol
Cheers mate!

Don't forget to ditch the soundproofing from the bonnet ;)

I did a mod to my recirc valve the other day, it cost me 2p and makes the induction bark before the woosh :)

[Biff]

That's long gone mate! Went the day I drilled my air box.
Stick a video up of it with an explanation of the mod. The bark might send my spaniel crazy!

[M-R-P]

Imagine the first bit of the chatter you get with a blanking plate and no dv/recirc just a single bark then the woosh of 16 psi going through a 3" custom maf to air pipe.

I'll try getting a vid next time I drive it.

[Biff]

Imagine the first bit of the chatter you get with a blanking plate and no dv/recirc just a single bark then the woosh of 16 psi going through a 3" custom maf to air pipe.

I'll try getting a vid next time I drive it.

Your just showing off now! Did the 2p sit inside the blacking plate spacing the spring more?

[M-R-P]

Your just showing off now! Did the 2p sit inside the blacking plate spacing the spring more?

Actually - yes.

[Biff]

Actually - yes.

What a guess. I was actually sat here thinking what you could of done... Lol
Good minds think alike?!

[M-R-P]

I wouldn't recommend it, getting a recirc valve back on is a right PITA!

[Biff]

It was a pita when I did mine, basically had to strip the right side of the engine, top mount & all the frame that sits on the side of the engine. I'll just put a big filter on. Lol

[Wobbly Dave]

If tuning was just about the noise it makes then I'd be fine.

[M-R-P]

It was a pita when I did mine, basically had to strip the right side of the engine, top mount & all the frame that sits on the side of the engine. I'll just put a big filter on. Lol
I didn't take anything off, just rolled the car up some bricks and dragged my ass under neath to undo 2 bolts, then got the 3rd from the top. Being lanky helps ;)

If tuning was just about the noise it makes then I'd be fine.
Still need a video of your recirc setup Dave ;) I wanna hear it dump to see if it's the sort of noise I want before I go chopping things up :D

[MIKESC70T5]

so now my cars are bodge jobs as well? :rolleyes:

if you say so, I just thought they were Max Power Wannabees. Did you use to try and get your automobiles featured in said retired magazine?

[Wobbly Dave]

Come to Trax and experience it first hand ;)

Below spring pressure on the TIAL - there is a lot of chatter & now that I have removed the sound deadening the suction from the turbo is audible as is the chatter.

At WOT the noise is overtaken by the exhaust but in between changes - I don't hear very much.

[M-R-P]

if you say so, I just thought they were Max Power Wannabees. Did you use to try and get your automobiles featured in said retired magazine?

I have Max Power pedal covers on my P2 :D

[M-R-P]

Come to Trax and experience it first hand ;)

Below spring pressure on the TIAL - there is a lot of chatter & now that I have removed the sound deadening the suction from the turbo is audible as is the chatter.

At WOT the noise is overtaken by the exhaust but in between changes - I don't hear very much.

I won't be at Trax mate but I'll be watching the videos ;)

[Plodmonkey]

I have Max Power pedal covers on my P2 :D

You need to be shot if that is true

[MIKESC70T5]

I have Max Power pedal covers on my P2 :D

Put them on the Starlet mate lol.

[M-R-P]

Nope - they look good in my footwell with the Volvo logo projected on them ;)

[stribo]

I have Max Power pedal covers on my P2 :D

Are you in competition with your neighbour to see who can be the biggest chav?

By the way lanky is tall and thin, and you only fulfil one of the criteria. :P

[M-R-P]

Dunno what you mean lol, I'm a prime specimen of butchness :D

You've seen my pedals, they look pretty good. Bolt - on too, none of this strapon crap, I had to drill them ;)

[Wobbly Dave]

You've got a way to go yet Martin, init...

http://www.bigredvolvos.co.uk/images/myOldVolvo740/FRONT%20Inside.JPG

[stribo]

You've got a way to go yet Martin, init...

http://www.bigredvolvos.co.uk/images/myOldVolvo740/FRONT%20Inside.JPG

That could well be the look he's going for, but in pink rather than red.;)

[oblark]

Dunno what you mean lol, I'm a prime specimen of butchness :D

You've seen my pedals, they look pretty good. Bolt - on too, none of this strapon crap, I had to drill them ;)

Have you drilled holes in your wifes car ? does she know ? :)

[M-R-P]

You've got a way to go yet Martin, init...

http://www.bigredvolvos.co.uk/images/myOldVolvo740/FRONT%20Inside.JPG

Ummm...

I prefer Betsy's interior mate ;)

[Wobbly Dave]

I thought you'd be up for a spot of footwell neon?

[M-R-P]

projectors are the way forward mate ;)

[no1tosh]

haha look what talking about a dump valve has started. got some more pipe from work, i found a secret stash in the paint room. so i can get that bladdy dv out.

it runs so much better without it, feels so much responsive.

so whats this coin trick then? do you put a 2p inbetween the blanking plate and the spring?

[weagie]

I am now confused about this dump valve/ induction cone thing. I have a k&n induction kit and it sounds like the car is breathing out when i lift off. Kinda like Darth Vader lol. I like it but I'm guessing its not meant to sound this way? I've yet to fit my forge bov but to be honest i don't know were its meant to go and i don't have a blanking plate. Do i need a blank or just raid the piggy bank for a 2p? Besides, were is the recirc valve? I don't know what it looks like. NA engines are far easier lol

[Rudeyboy18]

I am now confused about this dump valve/ induction cone thing. I have a k&n induction kit and it sounds like the car is breathing out when i lift off. Kinda like Darth Vader lol. I like it but I'm guessing its not meant to sound this way? I've yet to fit my forge bov but to be honest i don't know were its meant to go and i don't have a blanking plate. Do i need a blank or just raid the piggy bank for a 2p? Besides, were is the recirc valve? I don't know what it looks like. NA engines are far easier lol


http://youtu.be/56ZKczCvvj4

Just blank the recirculating vlave off that's actually on the turbo its self. Don't fit a dump valve and remove the lining on the underside of bonnet and it will sound similar to this

[weagie]

http://youtu.be/56ZKczCvvj4

Just blank the recirculating vlave off that's actually on the turbo its self. Don't fit a dump valve and remove the lining on the underside of bonnet and it will sound similar to this

hehe that's the muts nuts :)

[no1tosh]

i just took my missus out, she hares it lol, but ive just took off the sound deadning. awsome!!!!!

get a forge turbo blanking plate, get it fitted and smile all the way home:cool:

i still want to know where behind the blanking plate i put this 2p, i want BARK hehe

[Wobbly Dave]

Just for Martin... I went for a spin (at lunch time)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKGPmLbJeEY

[Wobbly Dave]

[video=youtube_share;56ZKczCvvj4]

Just blank the recirculating vlave off that's actually on the turbo its self. Don't fit a dump valve and remove the lining on the underside of bonnet and it will sound similar to this

Lambda light is on - oops.

[M-R-P]

That's lovely Dave. A nice mix of chirps and whistles. Were you trying to do a low 14s off that roundabout? :D

[Biff]

I am now confused about this dump valve/ induction cone thing. I have a k&n induction kit and it sounds like the car is breathing out when i lift off. Kinda like Darth Vader lol. I like it but I'm guessing its not meant to sound this way? I've yet to fit my forge bov but to be honest i don't know were its meant to go and i don't have a blanking plate. Do i need a blank or just raid the piggy bank for a 2p? Besides, were is the recirc valve? I don't know what it looks like. NA engines are far easier lol
You want a forge blanking plate dude, it replaces the original re-circ on the turbo. Martin put the 2p inside the blanking plate behind the spring to space it out giving the spring more pressure resulting in a "bark" as Martin put it. Cost ya about £30 for the plate & its fairly straight forward to fit if you have patience to take things off to get to it. Best mod I've done so far. Lol

[M-R-P]

i just took my missus out, she hares it lol, but ive just took off the sound deadning. awsome!!!!!

get a forge turbo blanking plate, get it fitted and smile all the way home:cool:

i still want to know where behind the blanking plate i put this 2p, i want BARK hehe

You might be getting a blanking plate mixed up with the recirc valve mate. A blanking plate replaces the recirc valve to allow you to fit a DV. The recirc is bolted to the side of the turbo with 3 10mm bolts and is a pig to get off. Remove it, pull the rubber disk off (spring will come with it) stick 2p in the bit where the spring sits and put it all back on.

I'm struggling to get the bark every time, it seems to only do it at 3/4 boost under certain circumstances. I think I needed another 2p lol.

The other option is to fit a one way valve in the pipe that operates the recirc valve, then you get this noise...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zul7U5AFr9c

[Wobbly Dave]

That's lovely Dave. A nice mix of chirps and whistles. Were you trying to do a low 14s off that roundabout? :D

I only did it to demonstrate the noise - you did say you wanted to know. So have I started a trend then?

[M-R-P]

It's a good sound - suits the car and not too intrusive in the cabin. I think it's easy to overdo these things and end up with a barrage of intrusive/annoying noises. I might get round to doing something similar one day ;)

Thanks for the vid Dave :)

[stribo]

Have I stumbled onto the Subaru Impreza forum by mistake? Really? Are we now going to see who's car sounds the most like a chav's? Tell you what lets see whose got the biggest tailpipe too. :rollseyes:

[M-R-P]

Have I stumbled onto the Subaru Impreza forum by mistake? Really? Are we now going to see who's car sounds the most like a chav's? Tell you what lets see whose got the biggest tailpipe too. :rollseyes:

And who's just bought a noisy Zorst for their R...?

[tichai]

Have I stumbled onto the Subaru Impreza forum by mistake? Really? Are we now going to see who's car sounds the most like a chav's? Tell you what lets see whose got the biggest tailpipe too. :rollseyes:

Easy one, that Mazda at the softies meet last Sunday :D

[M-R-P]

Easy one, that Mazda at the softies meet last Sunday :D

Should've got a pic of those fake tailpipes with the pea-shooters inside lol.

[stribo]

And who's just bought a noisy Zorst for their R...?

It's not much noisier, and still looks pretty standard.:P

[V70 Graham]

Should've got a pic of those fake tailpipes with the pea-shooters inside lol.

I did, will try and post it later.

[M-R-P]

It's not much noisier, and still looks pretty standard.:P
Bit of a let-down then ;)

I did, will try and post it later.
Good man ;)

[Wobbly Dave]

Have I stumbled onto the Subaru Impreza forum by mistake? Really? Are we now going to see who's car sounds the most like a chav's? Tell you what lets see whose got the biggest tailpipe too. :rollseyes:

It was Martin wot made me do it LOL.

Even so - Do you like it? (and yes I am digging for compliments)

[T5frankie]

Have I stumbled onto the Subaru Impreza forum by mistake? Really? Are we now going to see who's car sounds the most like a chav's? Tell you what lets see whose got the biggest tailpipe too. :rollseyes:

if you went on the impreza froum you would see that they hate chavs as much as anyone else, same as the ford forums

[Wobbly Dave]

if you went on the impreza froum you would see that they hate chavs as much as anyone else, same as the ford forums

Just as well we have you then ;)

[T5frankie]

Just as well we have you then ;)

we all have our part to play here :remybussi

[stribo]

if you went on the impreza froum you would see that they hate chavs as much as anyone else, same as the ford forums

Are you trying to tell me that no-one on the Impreza forum likes loud dump valves and big exhausts? Lol

[M-R-P]

Are you trying to tell me that no-one on the Impreza forum likes loud dump valves and big exhausts? Lol

lol, and nobody on the starlet forums like Burberry and white baseball caps!

[T5frankie]

Are you trying to tell me that no-one on the Impreza forum likes loud dump valves and big exhausts? Lol

about the same as on any other forum

[Craig1985]

Those vids sound so so nice, I love the chatter. It noticeable enough without being too annoying and with the different vids a few different sounds depending on how its done.
Love it.

[shrekblackR]

Going over to see MRP in a bit ill get him to vid mine on a run ill show ya how loud things can be lol

[M-R-P]

Ya bloody chav.


I'll get me camera lol.

[V70 Graham]

Should've got a pic of those fake tailpipes with the pea-shooters inside lol.

Piccy, as promised.....

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/graham1326/P1010773_zpsf7d24186.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/graham1326/media/P1010773_zpsf7d24186.jpg.html)

[M-R-P]

As promised, a couple of minutes in Shrek's car...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ8hQQJDheM

[V70 Graham]

Are you sure that's not YOU making those noises ?

[M-R-P]

And another quick one :)

[claymore]

Unfortunately, you can't hear my chatter over all the other noise, ohh, and who's that ahead of me?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR36A7FDJdE

[shrekblackR]

Wow !! That's sounds amazing man well done

[weagie]

Unfortunately, you can't hear my chatter over all the other noise, ohh, and who's that ahead of me?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR36A7FDJdE

I want that noise in my life!

[Craig1985]

I do love the way these sound, they all have slightly different sounds behind them. I love the chatter like in Martins one and the change between chirp and chatter in shrekblackR's, turbo chatter is brilliant.
I was wondering though is this what they call compressor stall? I thought that compressor stall was quite a bad thing for turbos although it sounds so good?
Or am I just getting confused between the different things?

[claymore]

It's not compressor stall as such. it's just the blades chopping up the air, plus the Volvo turbos are to small to be harmed by compressor stall.

[Craig1985]

It's not compressor stall as such. it's just the blades chopping up the air, plus the Volvo turbos are to small to be harmed by compressor stall.


That's cool, I just wasn't sure as one of my previous turbos a few years back had it and it did start to have an affect on the turbo but the chatter was amazing. Sounded like a proper external wastegate and so on.
I was just bearing it all in mind as still looking for one at present and then looking at what things I'd do as and when I do get one.
Didnt think people would be recommending doing it if it actually did kill off the turbos on these in that way.