850t5 Mods to break 300 bhp

[stevojam]

Hi there,

I understand that if you fit after market exhaust, induction kit with a good remap you can get 270- 280 bhp.
What other! mods would you have to do to a 850 t5 to achieve over 300bhp

Cheers

Steve

[Kingsford G]

Bigger turbo 18or 19t and a custom map.

[Volvostorm]

Yup, thats about right, to get any more you are looking at serious mods to the engine.

[stevojam]

Are the mentioned turbos a direct fit?

[oblark]

Yeap :)

[p fandango]

Me7 turbos have slightly different coolant/oil line positions on them, but can easily be adjusted to fit non-me7 cars. Also you might need a different downpipe. I also recommend changing to a s60r exhaust manifold while your swopping turbos, just easy to do while you've got the turbo off anyway

[oblark]

Or just fit a S60R turbo with it`s manifold :)

[Ecurie Ecosse]

Bigger turbo 18or 19t and a custom map.

I'm looking at an 18T for my 850 T5 with blue, or possibly green, injectors.

Who offers the custom maps? Also, is the S60 R manifold a direct fit if using the 18T?

Many thanks

[p fandango]

Or just fit a S60R turbo with it`s manifold :)
Then replace it with a reliable turbo once its cracked lol

[merc85]

I'm looking at an 18T for my 850 T5 with blue, or possibly green, injectors.

Who offers the custom maps? Also, is the S60 R manifold a direct fit if using the 18T?

Many thanks

Yes, HLM,

[p fandango]

is the S60 R manifold a direct fit if using the 18T?
Yep

[Kingsford G]

S60R manifold is a straight fit but an S60R turbo is not the best and needs some piping done but 18t or 19t is a better option.Depending on where u r there r different good remap companies everywhere.You can get a pre mapped ecu from ARD for your mods.
http://www.ardtuning.com/1994-1997_c_13.html

[theflyingbrick]

S60R manifold is a straight fit but an S60R turbo is not the best and needs some piping done but 18t or 19t is a better option.Depending on where u r there r different good remap companies everywhere.You can get a pre mapped ecu from ARD for your mods.
http://www.ardtuning.com/1994-1997_c_13.html

shhh dont tell everyone about ard lol thats my secret weapon ;)

[Kingsford G]

shhh dont tell everyone about ard lol thats my secret weapon ;)

Sorry :hidesbehi.Is yr car likely to be done before the 16th mate?

[stevojam]

Cheers for input :) .

So am I right in saying that with S60R exhaust manifold with 18t, custom exhaust, air filter, remap 300bhp is possible

Is it also worth while upgrading the injectors and intercooler or can these parts handle the power hike?

Thanks

Steve

[M-R-P]

Injectors would be a wise choice - Blues... or if you go for a forged engine, custom i/c etc - go green injectors and custom map that lot ;)

[stevojam]

Cheers M R P :)

[Kingsford G]

As Martin said,blues will do the job nicely.

[T5frankie]

Without a Turbo change you'll only be looking at 250 after a remap not 280

[T5frankie]

Blues are no different to whites on an 850

[M-R-P]

The only difference between blues and whites is 4 ohms resistance - and blues look nicer ;)

[Nealevo]

My 850R has had a few bolt on/replacement parts added over the last 12 months,

18T turbo
S60R manifold
Blue injectors
3" TB
Performance airfilter
Full TME exhaust, + my new 3" downpipe with race cat (when i get it this week)
HLM 304 ECU, but this will be replaced will a full custom map this weekend

Hopefully with all this i will see 300BHP or as close to it as possible.
but its torque which i really want as i seem to have lost ground on the 1/4 mile in the middle so extra grunt is needed.

Hope your plans go well... and that you have deep pockets to keep ontop of things!!

[WOODY T5]

Yeah lots of ground lol

[Nealevo]

Yeah lots of ground lol

I was on about Frankie, i dont count you as you cheated!!!

[WOODY T5]

Who did wot?

[Wobbly Dave]

I have a set of green injectors if needed

[p fandango]

The only difference between blues and whites is 4 ohms resistance - and blues look nicer ;)
The ohmage will affect there reaction times, so both might do be same job but won't open as quickly when the ecu askes it too

[T5frankie]

I was on about Frankie, i dont count you as you cheated!!!

he has secret nitrous, thats all it can be, same power as dave and jim yet blows them away lol

[T5frankie]

I was on about Frankie, i dont count you as you cheated!!!

you'll always be playing catch up to me mate lol

[stevojam]

Got some nice mods Nealevo.

Be interested to see what gains you have after you custom map :)

Steve

[Kingsford G]

Blues are no different to whites on an 850
R u telling me blues,18t,wallbro 255,s60r many and custom map won`t go over 300bhp?

[T5frankie]

R u telling me blues,18t,s60r many and custom map won`t go over 300bhp?

no, i said blues are no different to whites on an 850

[Kingsford G]

no, i said blues are no different to whites on an 850

I won`t be going even close to 300 I`m sure lol

[T5frankie]

I won`t be going even close to 300 I`m sure lol

not with a 16t mate

[T5frankie]

i have all neals mods except a modified 19t

[Kingsford G]

i have all neals mods except a modified 19t

Would be nice to c the figures from a custom map mate.

[T5frankie]

Would be nice to c the figures from a custom map mate.

i want 320bhp

[p fandango]

i want 320bhp
JT got over that with his standard 19t so you should do

[graemewelch]

i want 320bhp

ive got that and more hahahahaha:smile:

[WOODY T5]

i want 320bhpcrank power tho

[T5frankie]

crank power tho

yeah mate

[Jamest5r]

R u telling me blues,18t,wallbro 255,s60r many and custom map won`t go over 300bhp?

Depends what dyno you use at the end of the day, i know of another car that had 450bhp but only 310whp, all dyno's should be used for is a bench mark then use the same one everytime you mod your car you know where you stand.

[smithy]

And only mention whp lol

[T5frankie]

Depends what dyno you use at the end of the day, i know of another car that had 450bhp but only 310whp, all dyno's should be used for is a bench mark then use the same one everytime you mod your car you know where you stand.

The same dyno that said I had 199whp though

[Jamest5r]

The same dyno that said I had 199whp though

Yeah and 300 at the crank lol

[WOODY T5]

Think it's time for a RR day at same place?

[smithy]

I'm up for that when the car gets back in the road .

[Wobbly Dave]

quite happy to do that.

[T5frankie]

Yeah and 300 at the crank lol

We all know my v70r had more than that mate it's been my quickest car to date

[T5frankie]

Think it's time for a RR day at same place?

Milton Keynes or hlm?

[smithy]

Nobel chesterfield if mines ready .or hlm could try it as a charity do .just ideas thats all.another one p.j.motorsport wolves and that's a hub dyno too and 4wd .

[T5frankie]

Stuff the hub dynos slow and boring

[Wobbly Dave]

Can't use hub dyno (unless it does both sides) - I think my LSD would have an issue. Its already wrecked a disk skimmer.

[T5frankie]

Can't use hub dyno (unless it does both sides) - I think my LSD would have an issue. Its already wrecked a disk skimmer.

They do both sides, too much waiting around to change cars

[Saaamon]

What exhaust is needed to fit a 19t on an 850? When you say you have to modify the pipes to the turbo, in what way?

[T5frankie]

What exhaust is needed to fit a 19t on an 850? When you say you have to modify the pipes to the turbo, in what way?

you can just use the exhaust you already have, or alternately get an angled downpipe, you dont have to modify anything for a 19t fitment

[p fandango]

What exhaust is needed to fit a 19t on an 850? When you say you have to modify the pipes to the turbo, in what way?
Your better off fitting a 3" aftermarket while your doing the job, & a s60r exhaust manifold (just saves messing under there twice). If you get the turbo off the same pre-ME7 as ur car it will be fine, but when they swopped to ME7 the coolant & oil pipes are in a slightly different place so need adjusting a bit

[Wobbly Dave]

Off the shelf - Standard 19T IIRC comes with a turbine housing with an angle flange. 850s will have straight flange downpipes - so you need to change one of these pieces & given that you'd want a higher flow D/P - that is often the one that is also changed.

[T5frankie]

Off the shelf - Standard 19T IIRC comes with a turbine housing with an angle flange. 850s will have straight flange downpipes - so you need to change one of these pieces & given that you'd want a higher flow D/P - that is often the one that is also changed.

that is correct but to save money you can just split the turbo and use the straight flange as i did on my v70r

[Saaamon]

Your better off fitting a 3" aftermarket while your doing the job, & a s60r exhaust manifold (just saves messing under there twice). If you get the turbo off the same pre-ME7 as ur car it will be fine, but when they swopped to ME7 the coolant & oil pipes are in a slightly different place so need adjusting a bit

When you say adjusting do you mean buying new pipes or just bending them abit?

Does anyone know of a 19t for sale?

[p fandango]

When you say adjusting do you mean buying new pipes or just bending them abit?
just bending a bit, but they are quite solid & i think the chap i know had to take them off & take them to a machine to get it done

[woz]

READ THIS LINK http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=10961
Apologies if someone has linked this already - I havent read all 60 posts in this thread:>)

Its a good little summary of info tips and tweaks for our cars.

Cheers and good luck.
Woz