6 speed gear upgrade

[oblark]

I brought a Ford focus ST225 from ebay during the week and stirbo collected and delivered to the southern dyno day.

Once getting back from changing Steve`s turbo on his 850R I bolted the box to my spare block.
All the bolt holes lined up and the standard 850 driveshafts fitted aswell just need to remake the linkage as it`s not the same as the 850 one.

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/IMAG0803.jpg
http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/IMAG0804.jpg
http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/IMAG0805.jpg

[T5frankie]

this has been done before

[JT]

nice work :)

is the extra gear high or low?

[oblark]

this has been done before

And ..............

[oblark]

nice work :)

is the extra gear high or low?

6th gear is 0.65 to 1, the m56 box 5th gear is 0.77 to 1

[M-R-P]

Sweet mate, does it have volvo stamped on the housing?

[oblark]

Sweet mate, does it have volvo stamped on the housing?

Of course :)

[theflyingbrick]

this could be a very good upgrade especially when it comes to motorway driving,i reckon its gonna save a few quid on petrol with an extra gear,how long before your driving it?? be good to know the results ;)

[JT]

6th gear is 0.65 to 1, the m56 box 5th gear is 0.77 to 1

dam n blast! lol

I need a low range box then......:(

[p fandango]

6th gear is 0.65 to 1, the m56 box 5th gear is 0.77 to 1
M56H is 0.70:1, the Volvo M66 also has a 0.70:1. Whats the FDR on the Crocus box?

[p fandango]

& according to HERE (http://www.focusstoc.com/forums/topic/20180-gear-ratios/) the Crocus is also 0.70:1 with a 4.0 FDR, exactly the same as 5th on the T-5

[stribo]

Glad it's fitted up O.K. mate.

[oblark]

& according to HERE (http://www.focusstoc.com/forums/topic/20180-gear-ratios/) the Crocus is also 0.70:1 with a 4.0 FDR, exactly the same as 5th on the T-5

http://www.focusstoc.com/forums/topic/47711-confirmation-of-gear-ratios/

[p fandango]

http://www.focusstoc.com/forums/topic/47711-confirmation-of-gear-ratios/
2009, seems longer ago than that lol. My mistake about the 4.00 FDR, i was looking at the M66W (which does have the 0.65:1 on 6th)

[nottsgreent5]

Dont quote me on this but think someone told me a while ago later v70/s60 fitted with the six spees boxes linkage will fit the 850 shift assembly

[oblark]

Dont quote me on this but think someone told me a while ago later v70/s60 fitted with the six spees boxes linkage will fit the 850 shift assembly

Thanks for that, I`ll look into it :)

[Nealevo]

I'm pretty gutted now, I had a complete ST which had been vandal damaged, I wanted the 18s and seats, looked into the gearbox fitting and was told it wouldn't fit, scrapped the whole car :(

[oblark]

Found this on a ford forum about m66 gear ratio`s

Post No. 4

http://www.volvocarclubsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?t=3300&p=54726

[Kingsford G]

Interestng upgrade,keep us posting mate.

[merc85]

Awesome mate, good luck with the build, looking smart

[p fandango]

Found this on a ford forum about m66 gear ratio`s

Post No. 4

http://www.volvocarclubsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?t=3300&p=54726
i'm not convinced he's got his numbers right, the Volvo ratios he's quoting are for the M66W yet with the FDR of the M66. He also says the F*rd box has 4.00 FDR

[p fandango]

M66 (S60R AWD)
FDR = 3.77:1
1st = 3.38:1
2nd = 2.05:1
3rd = 1.43:1
4th = 1.08:1
5th = 0.86:1
6th = 0.70:1
top speed = 182mph

M66W (T-5)
FDR = 4.00:1
1st = 3.39:1
2nd = 1.91:1
3rd = 1.27:1
4th = 0.95:1
5th = 0.78:1
6th = 0.65:1
top speed = 185mph

M66D (D-5)
FDR = 4.00:1
1st = 3.39:1
2nd = 1.91:1
3rd = 1.19:1
4th = 0.84:1
5th = 0.65:1
6th = 0.54:1
top speed = 223mph

[Harvey]

Found this in my book
http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r499/harveysr/607A2631-4C27-4B42-8547-A8D5E1A89A7B-2138-0000041F32BFBE13_zpse63c7a6d.jpg

[GregE102]

I have an M66 T5 fitted and working with mine now, Tim Williams did it all for me but he did have to make a custom linkage to make it work correctly!

[oblark]

M66 (S60R AWD)
FDR = 3.77:1
1st = 3.38:1
2nd = 2.05:1
3rd = 1.43:1
4th = 1.08:1
5th = 0.86:1
6th = 0.70:1
top speed = 182mph

M66W (T-5)
FDR = 4.00:1
1st = 3.39:1
2nd = 1.91:1
3rd = 1.27:1
4th = 0.95:1
5th = 0.78:1
6th = 0.65:1
top speed = 185mph

M66D (D-5)
FDR = 4.00:1
1st = 3.39:1
2nd = 1.91:1
3rd = 1.19:1
4th = 0.84:1
5th = 0.65:1
6th = 0.54:1
top speed = 223mph

Should have got a m66d box 223mph ;)

[p fandango]

Should have got a m66d box 223mph ;)
The TDi 5cog I've got does 203mph@6500rpm

[Brett855tdi]

I bet the d5 box would be good for mpg, but i also guess it would be too long for a t5.
I take it the M66w and M66D are the same box just different ratios, and the d5 box would fit?

what cars were the M66w fitted to?

[p fandango]

I bet the d5 box would be good for mpg, but i also guess it would be too long for a t5.
I take it the M66w and M66D are the same box just different ratios, and the d5 box would fit?

what cars were the M66w fitted to?
S60 t-5

[lance]

I love the 6 speed box in my v50 t5 same as the focus 70 mph = 2400 rpm so better mpg, plus when you have had 6 gears going back to a 5 is like going back to a 4 your always looking for the extra gear that's not there!

[oblark]

As the sun was shining I set the spare sub frame, bolted on the engine block,head and turbo then the 6 speed gearbox.

Will have make a custom rear gearbox mount as they isn`t much space between the turbo,gearbox and the rubber mount :(

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/IMAG0833.jpg
http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/IMAG0834.jpg

Apart from the rear mount the gearbox fits :)

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/IMAG0835.jpg

[claymore]

What's different about the rear mount?

[oblark]

The M56 will not fit on the M66 box, and the M66 mount will not fit under the turbo

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/picture087ph4_s60mount.jpg

[Wobbly Dave]

How are you going to get around the reverse gate problem?

[oblark]

How are you going to get around the reverse gate problem?

What reverse gate problem ?

[Wobbly Dave]

To engage the reverse gear (up & far left) on the 6 speed manual you have to push the lever down before you can get it. It sits adjacent to 1st.
That gate protection is on the stick/selector AFAIK. Without it I am fairly sure you can select reverse whilst moving forward (unlikely) or more likely select reverse, when setting off.

[oblark]

To engage the reverse gear (up & far left) on the 6 speed manual you have to push the lever down before you can get it. It sits adjacent to 1st.
That gate protection is on the stick/selector AFAIK. Without it I am fairly sure you can select reverse whilst moving forward (unlikely) or more likely select reverse, when setting off.

On the box I`ve got reverse is over by 5th and 6th

1 3 5
2 4 6 R

[Wobbly Dave]

Must be different to the one on my diesel s40 then. I thought they were all

R 1 3 5
_ 2 4 6

not that I was trying to throw a spanner in the works, just more of a heads up.

[stribo]

The R has the same layout as Rob's, i.e. with reverse next to 6th

[lance]

Yeah the 2.0d and t5 use a different pattern

[oblark]

Made the most of the weather on Saturday and knocked up the rear engine/gearbox mount

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/IMAG0847.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/IMAG0847.jpg.html)
http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/IMAG0848.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/IMAG0848.jpg.html)

The next job will be to make a new downpipe :)

[MA'R'K]

Interesting project.....gearbox will probably be my next build, so watching closely ;)

[oblark]

Finally finished the gear linkage bracket off and fitted it tonight :)

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/IMAG0901.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/IMAG0901.jpg.html)

Here`s a short video of me going up through the gears


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HixuAz5iZug

[GregE102]

You will Love it! I love my 6 speed box they are great!

[cherry1809]

Also looking at doing the same. Good write up :)

[Biff]

I'd love to carry this conversion off.
Nice handy work fella.

[oblark]

Got bored at work today so I made these............................ some brass linkage bushes.

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/20130711_162418.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/20130711_162418.jpg.html)

[graemewelch]

nice touch. wish i could do a bit turning and milling

[jdavis]

good work there!

[Tomcat]

Awesome write up, looking forward to seeing it finished, then I can go find one for myself,lol.

[M-R-P]

Got bored at work today so I made these............................ some brass linkage bushes.

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u433/oblark/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/20130711_162418.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/oblark/media/volvo%20850%20t5/Engine%20rebuild%20project/20130711_162418.jpg.html)

The brass bush kit for the Toyota MR2 is a direct fit if anybody's looking to replace their bushes (a good idea when fitting the short-shift kit)

[Tomcat]

Where's the short shift kit available from?

[M-R-P]

I think IPD do one. There may be one or two of mine floating about somewhere but I don't have any.

[oblark]

The brass bush kit for the Toyota MR2 is a direct fit if anybody's looking to replace their bushes (a good idea when fitting the short-shift kit)

The mr2 bush cost money and mine cost nothing :)

[charlie-r]

I think IPD do one. There may be one or two of mine floating about somewhere but I don't have any.

Got any pics of the ones you (used to) do? Tried hunting but can't see any if you don't mind of course :) cheers.

[M-R-P]

Got any pics of the ones you (used to) do? Tried hunting but can't see any if you don't mind of course :) cheers.

Maybe Stribo, Nordic or TheFlyingBrick can post a pic.

V70Graham might have had a pic on his "relentless pursuit of perfection" thread.

[stribo]

I haven't got a pic of mine. :(

[Tomcat]

Wouldn't mind a short shift kit, fancy making some more?

[M-R-P]

I haven't got a pic of mine. :(

go and take one then.
lazy git :)

[M-R-P]

Wouldn't mind a short shift kit, fancy making some more?


I'll look for the pattern I was working on for the 2nd version of the plate.

no promises tho.

[theflyingbrick]

yeah short shift kit mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm its tasty :redface: sorry haven't got any pics

back on topic....I love the linkage pics your work is outstanding mate :)

[M-R-P]

Lazy gits...

Here's a pic of Graham's plate, now on Stribo's car...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/graham1326/P1010023.jpg