need to order a s60r clutch need reg or part number

[graemewelch]

im just about to order a s60r clutch for my car. just wondering can some confirm this is the correct part number LUK Clutch Kit 624325319 or pm e there reg number so i can get the place im ordering from to confirm its the correct part number. my car isnt a r so i cant use my reg

[T5frankie]

copy one on ebay mate

[graemewelch]

already thought of that but are all gaytronics

[T5frankie]

here is one shame the reg is omitted

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/708/3189/39269094001_large.jpg

[M-R-P]

You need to find out what gearbox you have mate. The R clutch uses a 23 tooth output shaft, there's a good chance yours is a 20 tooth.

[graemewelch]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-S30-C70-S60-S40-2-4D-LuK-Repset-Clutch-Only-624325619-/271140837385?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Cars%20Type%3A2.4%20T5&hash=item3f2140d809&_uhb=1

now im getting confused. surley this cant fit all these models, sumit dosnt seem right

[merc85]

I'd certainly be changing the concentric slave mate if you was going to the clutch,

That part number of luk clutch is just a 2 part unit

[graemewelch]

I'd certainly be changing the concentric slave mate if you was going to the clutch,

That part number of luk clutch is just a 2 part unit

is it common for them to fail? car has just turned 80k so hopping the dmf is in ok condition still. i havnt got 600 spare to do the lot.

[stribo]

reg sent.

[merc85]

Hi Bud, its the hydrolic release bearing i was talking about not the DMF (dual mass flywheel) all that kit comprises of is cover and plate

[Jamest5r]

reg sent.

Does that mean he's getting a "Dale" clutch :)

[merc85]

Here,

http://toc.luk-as.de/toc/en/9FEFE499253800427537D5FBC018BC9C.srv;jsessionid=9F EFE499253800427537D5FBC018BC9C?view=VIndexFrameset Jsp

Luk Rep set pro is what you need, but you will need you chasis number to confirm which kit

Click on the s60r awd far left hand side

[M-R-P]

And No. of splines on the shaft...


nothing worse than having your car in many bits, only to find the parts you ordered don't fekkin fit..!

[stribo]

Does that mean he's getting a "Dale" clutch :)

Don't you bloody start. :lol:

[merc85]

And No. of splines on the shaft...


nothing worse than having your car in many bits, only to find the parts you ordered don't fekkin fit..!

Chasis number is fine.

[Harvey]

is it common for them to fail? car has just turned 80k so hopping the dmf is in ok condition still. i havnt got 600 spare to do the lot.

Yes very common to fail,I had it fail on my D5 S60 the plate,flywheel were fine when removed wear wise but were covered in fluid which killed the plate.
Have a look at the pole about this problem I think you will change it after you read it.
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=131170

[M-R-P]

Chasis number is fine.

Wasn't on mine...

[Harvey]

here is one shame the reg is omitted

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/708/3189/39269094001_large.jpg

Nice ,even parked straight

[merc85]

Wasn't on mine...

id be blaming the peeps who looked it up then

[graemewelch]

ive decieded im going to use the clutch that should be fitted and not a r clutch, and im def going to change the slave. im hoping i can pay a local gargae to set the self adjusting bit as i havnt got the tooling for that

[stribo]

It's hydraulic, so it doesn't need an adjuster, same as your brakes.

[Harvey]

It's hydraulic, so it doesn't need an adjuster, same as your brakes.

I think he means this bit ,If you don't you will be doing the job again if the motor is maped it will slip easily on full power starts
http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthread.php?181287-S60r-clutch!-!&p=1984167&viewfull=1#post1984167

[graemewelch]

theres a self adjusting mechanism on the presure plate. if you dont reset it befor fitting the clutch wont last as long as it should.

[graemewelch]

You need to find out what gearbox you have mate. The R clutch uses a 23 tooth output shaft, there's a good chance yours is a 20 tooth.
done a bit research and ive got a m66 gearbox. so i can fit the dmf and clutch from a s60r. no problems and long as i dont mix and match clutch and flywheel

[M-R-P]

M66 in a 2002? Odd.

So long as you're sure mate, from experience, it's a nightmare when bits don't fit.

[graemewelch]

M66 in a 2002? Odd.

So long as you're sure mate, from experience, it's a nightmare when bits don't fit.

mines the 2.4 t5 2005 model.

[M-R-P]

D'oh! I was thinking of somebody else!
My brain's been elsewhere recently, sorry ;)

[volvokid]

done a bit research and ive got a m66 gearbox. so i can fit the dmf and clutch from a s60r. no problems and long as i dont mix and match clutch and flywheel

I know when I come to replace my clutch I wont be using the R one, I will be going with the AP racing one its stronger and its apparently a fraction of the price.

[graemewelch]

I know when I come to replace my clutch I wont be using the R one, I will be going with the AP racing one its stronger and its apparently a fraction of the price.

you got any more info

[volvokid]

you got any more info

No but give pyap a PM on t5d5.

[Harvey]

you got any more info

Sounds like this is what you are looking for.

http://kalmar-union.com/parts/volvo-s60_s80_xc70_v70_-transmission/

[graemewelch]

thats a lot more than a R clutch though. ive been quoted 575 for slave dmf and clutch all luk parts

[volvokid]

thats a lot more than a R clutch though. ive been quoted 575 for slave dmf and clutch all luk parts

So thats not genuine then????
I dont know where pyapp got his, but he is very knowledgeable about these cars he is certainly worth a shout.

[graemewelch]

So thats not genuine then????
I dont know where pyapp got his, but he is very knowledgeable about these cars he is certainly worth a shout.


yes its genuine. who do you think makes volvo clutches.

[Jimmie]

If you are a trader then you should get a better deal than joe public!!!

[Jimmie]

yes its genuine. who do you think makes volvo clutches.
Sachs!!

[graemewelch]

not in motor trade. just sell few exhaust parts so signed up as trader.

[volvokid]

yes its genuine. who do you think makes volvo clutches.

I didnt know that. Same goes for there shocks, your a mug to buy from volvo if you know these things

[SomeBloke]

I didnt know that. Same goes for there shocks, your a mug to buy from volvo if you know these things

You probably already know this but the 4C shocks are made by Monroe and are available direct from them for half of what Volvo want.....

[LeeT5]

Both Sachs and LuK make clutchs for Volvo.

However, Sachs only give you a 1 year warranty whereas Luk is a 2 year warranty. (No brainer) Volvo main dealers ONLY supply SACHS clutches and only offer the 1 year guarantee.

So, now you've decided not to get it done at a dealer (for obvious reasons other than the extortionate £1900 they quoted me - with discount), your now going to get an Luk clutch fitted by a reputable Volvo Specialist/Indy, you now need to decide which one.
LuK make TWO, yes TWO clutch's for S60R/V70R models. Namely 'standard' and 'Arduous conditions'. The latter uses bigger springs and is designed for use in harsh climates. Considering they cost virtually the same price you will of course go for the stronger clutch, the 'Arduous Condition' one. I did.
They also do a clutch kit, consisting of DMF, Clutch friction plate and concentric slave cylinder.

Total price at my Volvo Indy FITTED was £1400 all in.

****WARNING****

You would be a fool not to fit a DMF just to save the £700. They are an integral part of the clutch and with 80k on the clock it's highly probable that yours will be worn or showing signs of wear. If you do not fit the DMF then do not expect the car to drive the same as one if you had. It won't! A worn DMF can cause premature failure of a perfectly good clutch.
Also, some garages will not warranty the work they do if you decline to fit a new DMF when replacing the clutch as a failed dmf with excessive vibration and wear will quickly knacker the clutch.

Don't say i didn't warn you but for me, not fitting a DMF was not an option. If you haven't got the money then find it/save it/borrow it. You certainly won't regret it.

[The Flying Moose]

Lee I just wanted to say thanks, I dont even need an S60R clutch for obvious reasons but learned something from your post. Good for future reference!

[Jimmie]

If there is no wear on the DMF and it is within Volvo tolerance figures why change it?
Is £1900 or even £1400 not rather excessive for a job that should take four hours

[graemewelch]

ill be doing the job my self. its not hard and would be a total waste of money paying someone 300 quid for a days work. the dmf will be getting changed as its not a good idea to mix and match clutches and flywheels. if i decied to fit the standard clutch thats fitted to my car ill be checking the dmf to see if it needs replacment or not. unfortunitly money dosnt grow on trees.

[LeeT5]

Is £1900 or even £1400 not rather excessive for a job that should take four hours

......Not when the DMF alone is £700. So that leaves £700. When you buy the LuK clutch kit, labour + VAT.....£1400 is very reasonable.
Anyway, where you getting 4 hours labour from? It's more than that on a S60R/V70R.

[Harvey]

The car not a R ,T5 FWD I think ,when I had my D5 done it was about 7 hours they had fun removing the fly wheel.

[volvokid]

Jimmie got his done at a main dealer so that must be what he was charged for

[LeeT5]

The car not a R ,T5 FWD I think ,when I had my D5 done it was about 7 hours they had fun removing the fly wheel.

I was gonna say....4 hours! Yeah, to take it out maybe then another 4 to put it all back together again.

[Jimmie]

Lee i dont know were you got your figures from because they dont tally with what i was told .
The cost was £1472.53 incl parts and labour before discount and they would do the job for £1300 incl
You say you get a two year warranty with your Luk clutch kit etc but does your indy cover you for the labour if it goes wrong within that period?
If they don't then that is more expense and you would have been cheaper going to the dealer in the first place.
The prices above are for DMf fitted as well although they do Not recommend you fit one if not needed.
Who is foolish for fitting one because i didn't on there advice and others and they have never had a problem omitting that part of the job?

[Redbrick]

My 200K D5 is now running a second hand within tolerance T5 DMF with very part worn S60R clutch. All in a days work for Tim Williams. :viking:

[Jimmie]

My 200K D5 is now running a second hand within tolerance T5 DMF with very part worn S60R clutch. All in a days work for Tim Williams. :viking:

Nothing too much much trouble for the God of Volvo's:B_thumb:

[LeeT5]

Lee i dont know were you got your figures from because they dont tally with what i was told .
The cost was £1472.53 incl parts and labour before discount and they would do the job for £1300 incl
You say you get a two year warranty with your Luk clutch kit etc but does your indy cover you for the labour if it goes wrong within that period?
If they don't then that is more expense and you would have been cheaper going to the dealer in the first place.
The prices above are for DMf fitted as well although they do Not recommend you fit one if not needed.
Who is foolish for fitting one because i didn't on there advice and others and they have never had a problem omitting that part of the job?

I had a LuK clutch kit and DMF fitted inc vat for £1400. Trust me, i know, i paid the bloody bill. I did not purchase the parts, i had the garage do it. I saw the parts before they were fitted too at the garage. I'm not going to question my garage over how much he paid for the parts, i'm not interested. The parts have a 2 year garantee so obviously, if they fail and LuK acknowledge it's a warranty job then the garage that fitted the parts would claim the money back from LuK after LuK have supplied new parts. No costs for further labour would be passed onto me. My local Dealer only cover the parts and labour for 1 year.

[Jimmie]

Lee thanks for the decorative language in your reply to my post.lol
I’m also not interested in the profit of what your garage makes on parts .I was just stating what my main dealer will charge me.
What i’m interested in is where do you get the two year warranty from as LUK standard one is just 12 months or 12000 miles. They also do a lifetime warranty but nine times out of ten that will be rejected through wear and tear.
If that happens it is YOU that will have to foot the garage bill not LUK.
Your car will also be off the road as the clutch has to be sent back to them to check to see what is causing the problem.

You also did not answer why you would waste money on a DMF if not worn as the guys that I deal with would like to know that one.

[LeeT5]

Lee thanks for the decorative language in your reply to my post.lol
I’m also not interested in the profit of what your garage makes on parts .I was just stating what my main dealer will charge me.
What i’m interested in is where do you get the two year warranty from as LUK standard one is just 12 months or 12000 miles. They also do a lifetime warranty but nine times out of ten that will be rejected through wear and tear.
If that happens it is YOU that will have to foot the garage bill not LUK.
Your car will also be off the road as the clutch has to be sent back to them to check to see what is causing the problem.

You also did not answer why you would waste money on a DMF if not worn as the guys that I deal with would like to know that one.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'decorative' but anyway, i was just getting to the point. You were questioning the amount's of money as thou I'd plucked them out of thin air. My local dealer wanted £1900 job lot to fit a Sachs clutch and DMF with ONLY 1 year warranty. The stronger kit from LuK was £1400 all in at my Volvo Specialist inc DMF.
Regards the guarantee, i may have got that wrong....and you may be right in saying it's a 'lifetime' warranty, all i remember is that it was more than a year and cheaper. Perhaps i misheard and maybe your correct on the lifetime warranty, either way, it was a no brainer as to why i did not get my dealer to fit.
My understanding of 'lifetime' means ...For the life of the ownership of the vehicle. ie, it will be covered so long as I'm the owner.

Regards the DMF, due to the amount of labor involved in replacing a DMF/Clutch on a P2 R, i would have been silly not to replace the DMF as the original DMF had done 110k. Now your not going to tell me that it did not have any wear are you?
The point i'm making is why spend all that money and invest in a brand new component when the very component your mating it to, is part worn and already done 110k? We could have deliberated all day about whether or not to replace it but as my mechanic said, it's not worth taking the risk that it's OK and only fit the clutch and slave because if 6 months later the DMF developed a fault that affected the drive-ability of the car, then i would have to shell out £1400 to have it all replaced again.
As far as i was concerned, I did not want the aggro, extra expense and indeed the very fact that a worn DMF can prematurely age a clutch, so I opted to replace for peace of mind as I have no intentions of selling the car anytime soon.

You may choose to not replace the DMF for obvious reasons...cost. If the DMF only cost £20 then you wouldn't question it and insist it was replaced, wouldn't you? It still doesn't take away the fact that it is still an integral part of the transmission that is in direct contact with the clutch and as such, takes the same amount of abuse!! With such heavy costs involved in replacing the said parts, I did not want to have to replace them sooner than i had to and i also wanted the car to drive 100% perfect and NOT replacing the DMF would have left a '?' over the drive ability and would it have driven better, had i fitted a DMF? The only way to eliminate that '?' was to just replace it as the car was already in pieces and only adds (I believe) about 1 hour to the repair bill. A total no brainer for me hence why I say "you'd be silly not to do the same". It doesn't make me right and maybe Graeme's DMF was sound...but what if?....

It's no different to the slave cylinder. Nobody questions replacing it, even if it's not leaking. It might be working absolutely fine but what if? Two months later it starts leaking....all that time, money wasted.
If you wanna be 100% sure that the car will drive as perfect as it possibly can by replacing the worn clutch then you have to replace the DMF also.
You get where I'm coming from?

Does that make it any clearer for you Jimmie? :)

[Jimmie]

Lee i was not questioning your bill and if i gave that Impression I aplogise.
As far as the DMF is concerned I did my homework on fitting a new one and both garages came out against it .One was a main dealer who said that it was a waste of money doing it if it was within tolerance . He said unless you had too much money leave it alone .Regarding costs it does not come into the equation as far as repairs and safety is concerned but I will not pay for something that I don’t have to.But as you say you did not want any agro which was your choice.
As far as the LUK clutch is concerned what I said about the guarantee was what I was told by a main supplier of automotive products. Hence the reason I had the clutch fitted at a main dealer and not my usual garage with them supplying the necessary components and carrying out the work.
Same guarantee and less hassle if anything went wrong was my thinking would you not agree?
Now let us enjoy our cars (or your transit /Renault van:wink: )and stop bickering about these small trivial things as life is too short.:beer:

[graemewelch]

if was i paying a garage to fit mine then id get the full monty. but as i plan on doing it myself. i do 99% of my own work so its parts only for me. if i get the ox off and the dmf is shagged then ill get a new one. but im planning on selling the car soon anyway and dont want to pile hundreds of pounds into it.

[Harvey]

picked up this at the factors today,worth a read i would say.

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r499/harveysr/1BCA1E21-58D8-4BB7-AB5A-6845195967DA-475-0000009792199C43_zps7b1ba9c9.jpg[

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r499/harveysr/6292AC5B-973B-43D8-8A30-3F1AAD435F6B-475-00000097E20011D1_zpsd7bcd82e.jpg

[Plodmonkey]

here is one shame the reg is omitted

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/708/3189/39269094001_large.jpg

All I see is boobies

[Harvey]

The second thing that does spring to mind is get you ass off the car,Please.
first thing is nice parking.

[M-R-P]

picked up this at the factors today,worth a read i would say.

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r499/harveysr/1BCA1E21-58D8-4BB7-AB5A-6845195967DA-475-0000009792199C43_zps7b1ba9c9.jpg[

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r499/harveysr/6292AC5B-973B-43D8-8A30-3F1AAD435F6B-475-00000097E20011D1_zpsd7bcd82e.jpg

Aaaah... but what it doesn't mention is how the DMF fragments when it gets old and can destroy the bell-housing of the gearbox ;) I separated my DMF with a screwdriver! there was no evidence of the springs whatsoever.

That said, I bought a LUK DMF to replace it lol.

[Sharkey R]

I pretty much agree with Lee, if you're going to take something apart to replace an item and its a costly job then any other wear and tear item that can be done at the same time within a reasonable cost should be done. That's a no brainer. If you're changing brake discs you wouldn't put part worn pads back on would you? well I wouldn't anyway when you've got everything stripped out already. I know it's a bit different cost wise but surely it's preventative maintenance.

[stribo]

Definitely a belt and braces job for our R, when the cambelt was changed we got them to change the water pump to, just as it was easier to do at the time, than have to strip it all down at a later date for the sack of a £30 part. We'll definitely get the DMF changed when the clutch is.

[M-R-P]

Yep - when I had my clutch done, I got the DMF too. But I also bought genuine Volvo RMS, Driveshaft seals and flywheel bolts. Sometimes, it's worth going to a stealer for parts. those little bits added up to over £65 but worth it for peace of mind.

[graemewelch]

i to ended up getting the full monty. but i was lucky and got a good deal on parts and labour