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merc85
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:03
Well, picked her up today, Nice having a car that starts for a change, She has a few issues which i can sort easily.

Abs Light (poss pump)
Turbo Return seal
Grey Smoke on boost (Cat broken up inside) plugs not fouled
Pcv in desperate need
Damaged Drivers door around lock(some scumbag tried to break in)

Interior Mint, Columbas wheels mint. Drives very quiet and nice positive steering so much better than my Red one as it was to light.
Engine feels very fit and the car came with a Ecu for a Manual T5r Mileage 137k with history upto 123k Clutch and rear main done at 80k (bill to prove)

I'm going to sort the issue of the cat and oil leak, ive replaced the maf also, Pcv will also be done asap. Then drive her and make sure she's all good for tuning.

Finger's crossed, she looks to be in good shape alround, Here a pic after i got her back to my Unit

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/blacky2_zps3b7300fe.jpg

danny-R
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:07
Looks a good buy, bit of tlc and should be mint.

T5frankie
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:09
Bit racist that name mate

WOODY T5
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:11
looks like a nice buy well done gav

Biff
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:11
Nice that fella, I've been eyeing up an 850 t5 in black by me for my old man.

merc85
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:11
Looks a good buy, bit of tlc and should be mint.

All the car has done for since 2011 is potter around cambridge, 1st time i booted it the smoke poored out but then got less and less on the drive home aprox 80 miles, fingers crossed a good service deleting the cat and pcv will sort it. even got 32.9mpg on they way back to :)

danny-R
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:14
So what do you have planned mod-wise after a stage0?

Kingsford G
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:15
Nice one Gav,ralli glad it good.That colour is for u,hard to look after but looks the dogs.

martybelfastt5
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:18
very nice merc i do like a black one lol.......so whats this mean for the red one?

merc85
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:19
Nice one Gav,ralli glad it good.That colour is for u,hard to look after but looks the dogs.

Shes had 2 Polishes and one wax tonight, cleaned undeneath the engine to so i can monitor any leaks. She needs a FULL stage zero.

Kingsford G
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:23
Shes had 2 Polishes and one wax tonight, cleaned undeneath the engine to so i can monitor any leaks. She needs a FULL stage zero.

2 polishes? U a r a nutter and she is a lucky girl lol Full stage 0 is no probs for u.Yr front splitter and wheels gonna look nuts on that mate and a very light window tint.Are u gonna store the red devils engine as a spare?Don`t u sell that.

merc85
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:24
So what do you have planned mod-wise after a stage0?

Everything the Red one has will be going over once i know the Engine is good.

R.I.P
Big Intercooler
Me7 Mani
Blues
New Reg
3" D/p Stainless exhaust
302's
Suspension
Brakes
R Front Bumper (got to get it painted)

Then 18t Engine and Box on the Subframe will be fitted when i have faith in the car.

Kingsford G
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:24
Oh,u wanna speak to Steve for the R bumper black respray too

merc85
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:26
2 polishes? U a r a nutter and she is a lucky girl lol Full stage 0 is no probs for u.Yr front splitter and wheels gonna look nuts on that mate and a very light window tint.Are u gonna store the red devils engine as a spare?Don`t u sell that.

The engine turbo and Box will be fitted at some point. But yes will be stored for a little while.

merc85
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:29
very nice merc i do like a black one lol.......so whats this mean for the red one?

The Red one's fate is the scrap yard, :( Seriously i never thought it would be this hard to scrap her, she is still complete and started tonight as i moved her aside to put the black one in the garage,

Kingsford G
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:31
Looking forward seen her,pop down to Colchester at some poin.Hopefully I`ll tax mine on th 1st so any weekends really.I bet u itchiing for a photo session (me too lol)

HowHard
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:37
Very nice m8y, sorry to hear about the red one, what's cause for scrapping her??

merc85
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:39
Very nice m8y, sorry to hear about the red one, what's cause for scrapping her??


Wiring loom fault :(

M-R-P
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:46
So GAv, are you gonna drag one of them to the RR day in Feb? Maybe one last blast for the red one? see what that engine of yours is making?

merc85
Wednesday 30th January 2013, 23:53
So GAv, are you gonna drag one of them to the RR day in Feb? Maybe one last blast for the red one? see what that engine of yours is making?

Red one cant be trusted im afraid, and i will be working solid on the black one as soon as my Back is better, Got lots and lots to transfer, wife says the red one has to go asap. Good in a way as ive quite a bit of scrap to weigh in.

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 00:25
The Red one's fate is the scrap yard, :( Seriously i never thought it would be this hard to scrap her, she is still complete and started tonight as i moved her aside to put the black one in the garage,

I know how bad u feel but at least u have a good replacement to ease it up so some of the RED will still live in the black.Looking at pics of the blacky the body looks in a good nick so must b very shiny and nice after 2 polishes.

merc85
Thursday 31st January 2013, 00:33
I know how bad u feel but at least u have a good replacement to ease it up so some of the RED will still live in the black.Looking at pics of the blacky the body looks in a good nick so must b very shiny and nice after 2 polishes.

Yeah she's getting there, probably clay her within the next to weaks and start afresh

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 00:38
I think I need to do pcv too,managed a price from volvos for the lot £80,dont`t suppose u can get it cheaper,dealer part only.

merc85
Thursday 31st January 2013, 00:43
I think I need to do pcv too,managed a price from volvos for the lot £80,dont`t suppose u can get it cheaper,dealer part only.

No bud, as you say it is a Dealer part only athough i think i may be able to get away with just the box and the Pipes from turbo intake to box

M-R-P
Thursday 31st January 2013, 00:44
On the subject of "blacky", hows Mr. Rotchell doing?

merc85
Thursday 31st January 2013, 00:47
On the subject of "blacky", hows Mr. Rotchell doing?

He's ok, not sure if he will enter the Volvo world again or not.... He is going through a rough patch atm but things are looking up for him.

M-R-P
Thursday 31st January 2013, 00:52
He's ok, not sure if he will enter the Volvo world again or not.... He is going through a rough patch atm but things are looking up for him.

Send him my best mate, tell him I know of a red 850 that needs some electrical work doing... and an engine ;)

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 00:56
No bud, as you say it is a Dealer part only athough i think i may be able to get away with just the box and the Pipes from turbo intake to box
Good idea.I`ll buy the lot and return what I don`t use.

M-R-P
Thursday 31st January 2013, 01:19
If the box or pipes aren't completely solid with crap, they can be cleaned mate.

Wouldn't hurt to have all the bits there should you need them I suppose.

t5 pete
Thursday 31st January 2013, 01:37
Looks nice merc hope its a good one for you

t5steve
Thursday 31st January 2013, 03:46
you have pm

V70 Graham
Thursday 31st January 2013, 07:50
Great looking car Gav, will be watching with interest mate.

The White Knight
Thursday 31st January 2013, 13:43
look forward to seeing this progress

Nealevo
Thursday 31st January 2013, 14:23
You have PM Gav!! Looks nice thou

stribo
Thursday 31st January 2013, 17:21
Looks good mate, when do I get a chance to beat it? :lol:

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 17:31
Looks good mate, when do I get a chance to beat it? :lol:

When u beat me 1st lol

stribo
Thursday 31st January 2013, 17:34
When u beat me 1st lol

Not a problem :D

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 17:48
Not a problem :D

R u sure?What u gonna race?:)

stribo
Thursday 31st January 2013, 18:24
The R.

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 18:30
The R.

Ha ha I need 150 yards head start lol I can race your c70 tho

stribo
Thursday 31st January 2013, 18:42
Ha ha I need 150 yards head start lol I can race your c70 tho

Yeah, I can beat you in that if you like, I'll just wind the boost up. ;)

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 18:45
Yeah, I can beat you in that if you like, I'll just wind the boost up. ;)
Do u know what u racing against? Cos I`m not racing the auto.

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 18:48
Do u know what u racing against? Cos I`m not racing the auto.

lol listen to the slow boys lol

stribo
Thursday 31st January 2013, 18:50
lol listen to the slow boys lol

I beat you at North Weald last year. :P

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 18:51
lol listen to the slow boys lol

U watch my back progress and then my car flying pass u lol

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:03
I beat you at North Weald last year. :P

lol in my automatic 850 lol and less than 1/2 a second

V70 Graham
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:04
I beat you at North Weald last year. :P

He did too :wavey:

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:10
He did too :wavey:

never again, he should use the c70 to make it fair, or ill use the s4 lol

stribo
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:14
never again, he should use the c70 to make it fair, or ill use the s4 lol

So what you're saying is no-one's allowed to use a car with more power than yours.:hilarious:hilarious

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:31
So what you're saying is no-one's allowed to use a car with more power than yours.:hilarious:hilarious

of course but in reality 14.3 is a really slow time for a 4wd 300bhp car

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:41
of course but in reality 14.3 is a really slow time for a 4wd 300bhp car

Not bad for a newbie tho as I believe that was his 1st experience.I`ve never done a proper 1/4m yet lol

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:48
Not bad for a newbie tho as I believe that was his 1st experience.I`ve never done a proper 1/4m yet lol

standard s60r's aint quick, only from 0-60 60-100 is rubbish

V70 Graham
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:49
Not bad for a newbie tho as I believe that was his 1st experience.I`ve never done a proper 1/4m yet lol

True, how long you been doing 1/4's Frankie ?

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:50
standard s60r's aint quick, only from 0-60 60-100 is rubbish

Don`t know much about them mate.I`ll stick to 70 series for now,that`ll do me :smile:

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:51
True, how long you been doing 1/4's Frankie ?

2 and a half weeks, 14.3 is a good time for a standard s60r so he done well, just saying they should be quicker for a 300bhp car

V70 Graham
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:54
2 and a half weeks, 14.3 is a good time for a standard s60r so he done well, just saying they should be quicker for a 300bhp car

Sorry mate, wasn't a dig, I am just interested to know.

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 19:57
2 and a half weeks, 14.3 is a good time for a standard s60r so he done well, just saying they should be quicker for a 300bhp car

S60R is around 200kg heavier than 855,that makes diff

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:02
S60R is around 200kg heavier than 855,that makes diff

got 13.7 in my impreza not mapped just straight through exhaust and a little actuator tighten 221 bhp standard

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:08
got 13.7 in my impreza not mapped just straight through exhaust and a little actuator tighten 221 bhp standard
Impresa is about 300kg lighter

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:14
Impresa is about 300kg lighter

so what should my audi get?

stribo
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:22
of course but in reality 14.3 is a really slow time for a 4wd 300bhp car

Hopefully it'll be quicker now the VVT's sorted.;) I should think the Audi's quite heavy, so may not be much between them.

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:26
so what should my audi get?
It is almost S60R weight.With yr skills late 13`s I think but best to run it.

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:27
Hopefully it'll be quicker now the VVT's sorted.;) I should think the Audi's quite heavy, so may not be much between them.

the audi has 265 bhp though :eye-poppi

stribo
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:29
I thought you were getting it remapped.

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:30
I thought you were getting it remapped.

:eclipsee_ yeah next week should be

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:32
:eclipsee_ yeah next week should be

With Shark performance?

T5frankie
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:34
With Shark performance?

no mate, dont need to travel a million miles to map a vag car,

http://www.bahnstorm.net/

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 20:40
no mate, dont need to travel a million miles to map a vag car,

http://www.bahnstorm.net/
Thats handy.Lets c what its gonna push on the dyno then.

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 23:01
Now back to the topic.It looks like Gav gonna b busy working on blacky next few day.

merc85
Thursday 31st January 2013, 23:13
Well after a good scrub up, to coats of polish with a light cut, then a wax Big Rotch gave me his old spoiler for the tailgate, so that was fitted tonight.

Also got the Comets on, although she is still riding high and needs lowering. also 302's to be fitted very soon but Pcv is a must as she is breathing smoke through the turbo on hard boost, although no where near as bad as it was.

A busy wkend ahead by the looks of it.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/Facebook/Untitled%20Album/Blacky/newblacky_zps96cd826d.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/Facebook/Untitled%20Album/Blacky/blackyspoiler_zps1c54448f.jpg

V70 Graham
Thursday 31st January 2013, 23:23
That does look a nice straight car Gav, liking the spoiler, your right though.....you do have a busy weekend ahead lol

Kingsford G
Thursday 31st January 2013, 23:24
Nice and shiny ).Take some pics with comets on.

merc85
Thursday 31st January 2013, 23:30
That does look a nice straight car Gav, liking the spoiler, your right though.....you do have a busy weekend ahead lol

She needs a New drivers door really has its been damaged by some scumbags, But all in good time, desperate to get the pcv done, i doubt i will get the bits needed by the wkend tho :(

merc85
Thursday 31st January 2013, 23:32
Nice and shiny ).Take some pics with comets on.

I will lol it was abit dark by the time i'd finished tonight, also got to fit the v70 Rear lights

M-R-P
Thursday 31st January 2013, 23:55
She needs a New drivers door really has its been damaged by some scumbags, But all in good time, desperate to get the pcv done, i will get the bits needed by the wkend tho :(

Looking good Gav, there's a black 850 in the scrappy near me. Want me to have a look at the door for ya? I'll be in there wombling tomorrow.

smithson007
Thursday 31st January 2013, 23:56
Looking good mate. Looks like youve got yourself a nice clean car ready for modding.

Where's 'big rotch' gone from here?

merc85
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:05
Looking good Gav, there's a black 850 in the scrappy near me. Want me to have a look at the door for ya? I'll be in there wombling tomorrow.

Yeah bud id really apreciate that if you could??

M-R-P
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:10
Yeah bud id really apreciate that if you could??

No worries. What's your price limit (in case they try to take the p155) I know they charge £11 for a wing, £55.50 for a full interior etc so they should be ok.

merc85
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:14
No worries. What's your price limit (in case they try to take the p155) I know they charge £11 for a wing, £55.50 for a full interior etc so they should be ok.

Anywhere between those prices is good bud less the better obviously :) gotta pay the Bank of Dad back for the car by breaking the red one. obviously send u a "Drink" to for ur trouble.

M-R-P
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:17
No worries mate, PM me your number and I'll text/call you when I have a look at it.

HowHard
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:18
looking very nice indeed, very jealous of the colour, expect she'll look even nicer with the comets on too :)

merc85
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:23
looking very nice indeed, very jealous of the colour, expect she'll look even nicer with the comets on too :)

She needs work but is very lively, and generally in good shape, wont be modding much for a while as the Red car has took most of my enthusiasm out of me.
Just going to get her looking pretty and going well/reliably.

Kingsford G
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:28
Yeah bud id really apreciate that if you could??

If by any chance u don`t make it to the RR (I hope u will tho) I can pick it up for u.

merc85
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:41
If by any chance u don`t make it to the RR (I hope u will tho) I can pick it up for u.

Thanks bud that would be ace ;) i wont be making it to the RR day :(

M-R-P
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:48
Thanks bud that would be ace ;) i wont be making it to the RR day :(

Boooo!

It'll be good to have you there Gav, even if you bring a van!

That'll be a larf - putting a van on the rollers - make a good vid :D

merc85
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:53
Boooo!

It'll be good to have you there Gav, even if you bring a van!

That'll be a larf - putting a van on the rollers - make a good vid :D

LOL my Company 1.4 Lpg Berlingo lol

M-R-P
Friday 1st February 2013, 00:55
LOL my Company 1.4 Lpg Berlingo lol

Tell me it won't be ££££in' funny on the rollers! :hilarious

V70 Graham
Friday 1st February 2013, 07:48
Tell me it won't be ££££in' funny on the rollers! :hilarious

It would even LOOK funny on the rollers, even if you don't 'Roll' would be good to see you Gav.

merc85
Friday 1st February 2013, 20:39
Well just a quick pic , Blacky is now on Comets now obviously in need of lowering and also get rid of that Front bumper, V70 rear lights fitted to.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/Facebook/Untitled%20Album/Blacky/blackycomet_zps613a10e1.jpg

V70 Graham
Friday 1st February 2013, 20:45
That's a lot better Gav, a bit high at the front though lol, keep us updated over the weekend mate.

merc85
Friday 1st February 2013, 20:53
That's a lot better Gav, a bit high at the front though lol, keep us updated over the weekend mate.

Will do bud, Gonna try and Get the Pcv system done and if time clean up the Engine bay abit, Doubt i will get chance to doo the Suspension, my back is still giving me jip.

Kingsford G
Friday 1st February 2013, 21:11
Thats better and lowered will look meaner

danny-R
Friday 1st February 2013, 21:15
Looking better already, I must admit if i get another 850 I will be investing in a set of the cheap ebay coilovers and winding them right down.

WOODY T5
Friday 1st February 2013, 22:38
Looking better already, I must admit if i get another 850 I will be investing in a set of the cheap ebay coilovers and winding them right down.Go for a good set of named ones mate them cheap ones are very cheap few members on here ad them then sold them on after a few weeks;-)

T5frankie
Friday 1st February 2013, 22:52
better to spray your wheels silver now mate

Kingsford G
Friday 1st February 2013, 22:57
better to spray your wheels silver now mate

No way :nono:

T5frankie
Friday 1st February 2013, 23:03
No way :nono:

they dont suit it

Kingsford G
Friday 1st February 2013, 23:17
they dont suit it

Wait till he lowers it,it`ll look just right.

danny-R
Saturday 2nd February 2013, 10:47
Go for a good set of named ones mate them cheap ones are very cheap few members on here ad them then sold them on after a few weeks;-)

Can't be that bad surely? I couldn't justify paying twice the cars value on a branded set of coilovers for a workhorse

martybelfastt5
Saturday 2nd February 2013, 16:49
thats almost a private plate lol

HowHard
Saturday 2nd February 2013, 20:43
very nice, and the wheels are perfect colour in my opinion, will look bootiful lowered :)

merc85
Friday 8th February 2013, 20:23
Well managed to sort the boost issue out, lol just shows its bin a while since i first started tuning these cars here i was over complicating things thinking it was a boost leak etc etc getting all wound up.

The Red car as certainly knocked my confidence , anyway turned out the actuator needed a heck of a lot of adjusting, 3 complete turns in and she boost 17psi. TFFT lol

Next jobs oil and filter change along with the sorting of the turbo return leak. get the suspension changed over then exhaust turbo and intercooler lol

Shes now sporting v70 instrument cluster to :)

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/instrument_zps67b8256c.jpg

T5frankie
Friday 8th February 2013, 20:26
nice mate, well done, you still have no feelings for the car though do you? lol

merc85
Friday 8th February 2013, 20:29
nice mate, well done, you still have no feelings for the car though do you? lol

She's growing on me , bin using her daily for around two weaks, and she hasnt use any oil or water and starts well (which is always a bonus) lol

She's going to be kept and done up. Just need to get the red one weighed in now as its sitting in my garage and whilst its in there, i dont get much time to work on the Black one.

smithy
Friday 8th February 2013, 20:41
I'm not going to say I told you so lol

hybriduno
Friday 8th February 2013, 20:44
He told you so^^^^^..................there u go smithy. :) lol

smithy
Friday 8th February 2013, 20:47
He told you so^^^^^..................there u go smithy. :) lol

Pmsl

merc85
Saturday 9th February 2013, 18:35
Well the front anyway, decided to give her a oil change today as well, excuse the pics it was getting dark by thetime is was finished.

But hell yeah she is growing on me lol

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/blacklow3_zps87d99fd3.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/blacklow2_zps88e26752.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/blacklow_zps3fcd2384.jpg

V70 Graham
Saturday 9th February 2013, 18:43
Very nice mate, she's coming along nicely, glad she's 'growing on you' as we'll.

merc85
Saturday 9th February 2013, 18:46
She's feeling quite brisk now lol boosting 17psi with the bcs connected although havent given her a good run yet, Going to get some better pics tomorrow hopefully. Also got a new black driver's door coming :) that will certainly make her looks a million times better

danny-R
Saturday 9th February 2013, 18:52
Looks loads better! do you want to sell it haha

oblark
Saturday 9th February 2013, 18:54
Looking good, glad you are staring to feel the love of a 850 again :)

merc85
Saturday 9th February 2013, 18:56
Looks loads better! do you want to sell it haha

lol cant wait for the osf door to turn up. no i think i may be keeping her after all, just starting to get motivated to fit the 18t and other mods. going to run the 15g for a little while 1st tho. So many times peeps buy a car then Mod it heavily straight away , i wanna make sure all is good 1st. :)

Kingsford G
Saturday 9th February 2013, 19:15
Looks like a black vertion of BIG SWEED with the tail sticking up.Coming along nicely mate,as I thought the wheels look even better when lowered.

Nealevo
Saturday 9th February 2013, 19:43
Nice to meet you today Gav, only just got back as some idiot decided to go through barrier on M25 grrr thanks for all the help too, Bungy straps are not my forté. Top bloke

merc85
Saturday 9th February 2013, 19:46
Nice to meet you today Gav, only just got back as some idiot decided to go through barrier on M25 grrr thanks for all the help too, Bungy straps are not my forté. Top bloke

Was a pleasure meeting you to mate, Would be good to catch up again sometime over a pint. Glad the panels have gone to a good home. :B_thumb:

T5frankie
Saturday 9th February 2013, 19:46
Well the front anyway, decided to give her a oil change today as well, excuse the pics it was getting dark by thetime is was finished.

But hell yeah she is growing on me lol

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/blacklow3_zps87d99fd3.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/blacklow2_zps88e26752.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/blacklow_zps3fcd2384.jpg

funny cos a red 850 is growing on me lol

M-R-P
Saturday 9th February 2013, 19:54
One thing I noticed, having the ass end in the air, the headlights don't shine as far! Lol.

Looking good Gav.

hybriduno
Saturday 9th February 2013, 19:58
v nice mate :)

merc85
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:00
funny cos a red 850 is growing on me lol

Black is the new red lol

T5frankie
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:01
Black is the new red lol

just as i go red, its no longer the best then? lol

T5frankie
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:01
mind you they say black is better an all that lol

merc85
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:12
Tbh Black is just as a pain in the ass to keep clean as Red lol, either or mate, The black 855 is nearly as clean as my Red one was. when i get this door it will be very close, After some detailing and the R Bumper on her she is going to awesome. I'm thinking Volans for the the wheels tbh or Titans as you say the comets dont look as good,

May even take the Mint titans off the gull and put them on the Black car. And put the comets on the gul Doesnt really matter seeing as that is not being used.

Nealevo
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:18
Black is the new red lol

Wash your mouth out Mr, red is best!!

merc85
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:20
Wash your mouth out Mr, red is best!!

LOL you will certainly have at least 3 very smooth red panels ;)

smithy
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:43
Very nice and I've always like black in all ways lol

T5frankie
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:45
Very nice and I've always like black in all ways lol

lol

merc85
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:48
lol

There all pink on the inside lol

T5frankie
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:52
There all pink on the inside lol

i know

smithy
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:57
I know too ,is like a black leather sofa with pink cushions pmsl.that what you should put in your car mate lol.

T5frankie
Saturday 9th February 2013, 20:58
I know too ,is like a black leather sofa with pink cushions pmsl.that what you should put in your car mate lol.

lol you div, last time i went there i had to go to the gum clinic lol

smithy
Saturday 9th February 2013, 21:00
lol you div, last time i went there i had to go to the gum clinic lol

Lol

kyboy
Sunday 10th February 2013, 10:35
Titans mate it'll look mean as!

merc85
Saturday 16th February 2013, 21:21
Well spent alot of time this afternoon transfering more bits n pieces over from the red car to blacky,

She's now running the 18t with a 3" angled Downpipe/de cat, along with the me7 manifold. Coupled with my auto map runing the BCS she boosts 20 psi in the last two gears.

Driving very very nice, Got to fit the 3" stainless Rear section of exhaust next and polly bush her since its abit of a hand full atm lol. Also the R bumper should be getting painted v soon and fitted.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/blacky3_zpsfd418f7a.jpg

Nealevo
Saturday 16th February 2013, 21:24
Is there much difference with the 18t, I only ask as I'm having one rebuilt now!! Looking good thou

sartain87
Saturday 16th February 2013, 21:26
looks clean mate, maybe space the back wheels out?

thats what im gonna do with mine, after i pick up the 7.5" wide comets

merc85
Saturday 16th February 2013, 21:28
Is there much difference with the 18t, I only ask as I'm having one rebuilt now!! Looking good thou

Yes bud, quite abit, Pulls alot stronger up top. She needs a walbro fuel pump the oe one is getting abit tired.

danny-R
Saturday 16th February 2013, 21:31
Is there much difference with the 18t, I only ask as I'm having one rebuilt now!! Looking good thou

Absolutley, mine pulled a lot harder in 3rd 4th and 5th.


Keep up the good work gav, you don't hang about do you. I only managed to wash half my car and gave up lol (i am on crutches that'smy excuse :) )

t5 pete
Saturday 16th February 2013, 21:34
Yes bud, quite abit, Pulls alot stronger up top. She needs a walbro fuel pump the oe one is getting abit tired.

Exactly the same as myne the 18t just keeps on pulling where as the 15g would give you that kick then dye off i also need a new pump but unsure what to get yet what you going for

merc85
Saturday 16th February 2013, 21:36
Absolutley, mine pulled a lot harder in 3rd 4th and 5th.


Keep up the good work gav, you don't hang about do you. I only managed to wash half my car and gave up lol (i am on crutches that'smy excuse :) )

The red car is in the Garage, thats why i'm cracking on , I WANT IT out lol. So i can get the black one in.

merc85
Saturday 16th February 2013, 21:38
Exactly the same as myne the 18t just keeps on pulling where as the 15g would give you that kick then dye off i also need a new pump but unsure what to get yet what you going for

Walbro Buddy, http://shop.motorsport-developments.co.uk/lancer-evo-2-3-5-6-7-8-9-uprated-walbro-fuel-pump-257-p.asp

T5frankie
Saturday 16th February 2013, 22:05
Walbro Buddy, http://shop.motorsport-developments.co.uk/lancer-evo-2-3-5-6-7-8-9-uprated-walbro-fuel-pump-257-p.asp

will that lancer pump fit our cars then?

merc85
Saturday 16th February 2013, 22:07
will that lancer pump fit our cars then?

wtf lol err yeah bud, needs a small mesh filter ordered with it too.

stribo
Saturday 16th February 2013, 22:32
Good to see it's all coming together Gav. Still gonna beat you in the R. :P

merc85
Saturday 16th February 2013, 22:34
Good to see it's all coming together Gav. Still gonna beat you in the R. :P

yeah yeah lol, no chance mate not wen the white block goes in ;)

smithy
Saturday 16th February 2013, 22:55
Nice work mate keep it going

p fandango
Sunday 17th February 2013, 00:17
why settle for 255lh LINK (http://www.ardtuning.com/ARD-340-LPH-high-flow-fuel-pump_p_118.html)

Jamest5r
Sunday 17th February 2013, 00:28
Walbro Buddy, http://shop.motorsport-developments.co.uk/lancer-evo-2-3-5-6-7-8-9-uprated-walbro-fuel-pump-257-p.asp

Thats what ive got in mine, needs a slight twist to fit but hell of a difference.

t5 pete
Sunday 17th February 2013, 00:31
Come on then jim whats the slight twist

Jamest5r
Sunday 17th February 2013, 00:42
Its not a direct fit the feed pipe needs twisting 90 but it dont kink, this is because of the baffles in the tank they run at the wrong angle for the pick up filter.

merc85
Saturday 2nd March 2013, 21:01
Well despite hurting my back, and now a infection in my hand i managed to get the engine out of the Red car, Just got to out into blacky now, ive got to go to basildon tomoz, hopefully back by 2.00 so i can crack on.

Will be doing it on my own as no one is about to give me a hand be the looks of things. Here are a couple of pic's

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/change1_zps224e6f60.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/change2_zpsb4a2ee16.jpg

Kingsford G
Saturday 2nd March 2013, 21:04
That looks very nice Gav,hope it runs well.Keep us posting.

V70 Graham
Saturday 2nd March 2013, 21:08
Good luck for tomorrow Gav, hope all goes well mate.

merc85
Saturday 2nd March 2013, 21:26
Thanks peeps going to be a late start, got to change all the sensors over from the black ,lump to the white lump. Just incase

iancho
Saturday 2nd March 2013, 21:28
Your a braver man than me Gav... Good luck mate and try not to sustain any more injuries :smile:

oblark
Saturday 2nd March 2013, 21:30
A bit off thread, but when you refitted the cylinder head how did you torque it up ? as the haynes book give the torque in degrees.

merc85
Saturday 2nd March 2013, 21:37
A bit off thread, but when you refitted the cylinder head how did you torque it up ? as the haynes book give the torque in degrees.

Hi Bud, hope your well, I used a torque Dail Gauge half inch over a long bar

oblark
Saturday 2nd March 2013, 21:41
Hi Bud, hope your well, I used a torque Dail Gauge half inch over a long bar

I`ll have to get one when I rebuild my engine :)

I feel your pain, Ive just pulled the engine/box out of my donor car.

merc85
Saturday 9th March 2013, 21:43
Just a update, Blacky wont start now since the engine has bin fitted, Ive had it scoped Cam and crank sensors all fine, She has no power to the coil/module, no power at the injectors but fuel in the rail. Have tried a trigger wire to coil but no luck.

Could be imobiliser, not sure. Car will be broken soon and im thinking about buying my friends half of the Gul or leaving the Volvo world altogether. :(

oblark
Saturday 9th March 2013, 21:47
Not again :(

I see a pattern forming ............

Kingsford G
Saturday 9th March 2013, 21:47
Just a update, Blacky wont start now since the engine has bin fitted, Ive had it scoped Cam and crank sensors all fine, She has no power to the coil/module, no power at the injectors but fuel in the rail. Have tried a trigger wire to coil but no luck.

Could be imobiliser, not sure. Car will be broken soon and im thinking about buying my friends half of the Gul or leaving the Volvo world altogether. :(
It was a perfectly running car Gav,there must be something not connected and the immoboliser can`t go just cos u swapped the engine.
Double check all the connections,earth etc.

merc85
Saturday 9th March 2013, 21:53
It was a perfectly running car Gav,there must be something not connected and the immoboliser can`t go just cos u swapped the engine.
Double check all the connections,earth etc.

Have done mate, and also had it scoped, All earths connected so that aint the issue. Injectors arnt firing, nor is the coil. Injection relay changed and fuel pump relay but still no difference. She will be broken

Kingsford G
Saturday 9th March 2013, 21:57
Have done mate, and also had it scoped, All earths connected so that aint the issue. Injectors arnt firing, nor is the coil. Injection relay changed and fuel pump relay but still no difference. She will be broken

Don`t u think its weird that 2nd car is not running after an engine swap?

danny-R
Saturday 9th March 2013, 22:01
Nightmare mate, hope you get it sorted.

merc85
Saturday 9th March 2013, 22:24
Don`t u think its weird that 2nd car is not running after an engine swap?

yep but different symptoms, so it aint the lump

smithy
Saturday 9th March 2013, 22:32
It could be the contact on the block for the cam sensor

merc85
Saturday 9th March 2013, 22:38
It could be the contact on the block for the cam sensor

Cam and crank have both tested fine buddy

smithy
Saturday 9th March 2013, 22:39
Cam and crank have both tested fine buddy

Not the sensors the black circle thing on the head were the cam sensor goes.

Kingsford G
Saturday 9th March 2013, 22:41
Cam and crank have both tested fine buddy

R they in the right position tho?Do ing some searches for u.I never touched a cam sensor but it says its rotates and 1 is wrong position and 2 is right one,happy to be corrected.

claymore
Saturday 9th March 2013, 22:44
I know you've probably checked, but what about the relay and contacts above the radiator.

nottsgreent5
Saturday 9th March 2013, 22:54
Sure some where on the net ive read about crank sensors not being compatable with later fly wheels somthing to do with voltage polarity only ask as this is a converted auto engine isnt it more than likley barking up the wrong tree lol

smithy
Saturday 9th March 2013, 23:11
The car was running fine before you changed the engine so it's ether a sensor or something mechanical with the engine .just working on process of i limitation mate.or even an earth no contacted properly .

V70 Graham
Saturday 9th March 2013, 23:22
Sorry to hear your struggling again Gav, hopefully an easy fix.

Kingsford G
Saturday 9th March 2013, 23:32
Predicting this I voted for just the head swap cos the original engine was good as it is.I`m sure there is something either not compatible or not connected.

HowHard
Saturday 9th March 2013, 23:34
omg, I've been on and off here lately but been 'preying' for you m8. Some real bad luck you've got m8 but as people have said, must be something on the engine and you've put a lot into it. DON'T QUIT NOW!!! :) Be worth it in the end and you'll more than likely be pleasantly surprised. Hopefully sooner rather than later m8.

I feel for you m8, all the best!

merc85
Saturday 9th March 2013, 23:45
thanks for all the ideas, I wasnt completely happy with the previous lump it breathed to heavy for my liking, The cam sensor plate can only go on one way, same for the rotor arm plate. so it aint those. All the earths are attached. Even took a jump lead from the neg on the battery to the lump m and the body no differenceso it aint a earth.

nobananas
Monday 11th March 2013, 17:27
Those are the exact same symptoms I had when my T5 broke down in the lakes a few years ago !. After hours of searching it was broken wiring going into the large relay clipped under the front radiator plastic panel. The wiring was bent back on itself and two wires had rotted through where they join inside the connector block. I'm thinking that with all the movement of changing the engine they could perhaps have broken on yours ?

merc85
Saturday 16th March 2013, 21:06
Well, decided to start to take her apart to drop the engine out, took the inlet manifold off, and.......... found the issue, or should it be tissue!

Yeah what can i say another ive been a complete idiot, i can only put it down to trying to put her back together to quick and working on her 24 7 and so much going on with runing my business. Before i took the tissue out cylinder's 1-4 hand very low compression, this was due to the tissue keeping the valves from shutting.

I took all the tissue etc out (well most of what was left) built her back up and turned the key! Cant believe she fired up, The NON spark issue btw was down to her having a obd 1 flywheel!

So you guys have all bin warned a obd1 flywheel fitted into a obd2 car will cause a NON start fault! You have to reverse the polarity ie, swap the crankshaft senser pins around and hey presto.

She has a boost problem probably down to a foweld plug or possibly turbo, i dont really know all i know it seems to be getting slightly better, its like shes hitting boost cut. The ignition leads were knackered and the plugs so these will be replaced Monday, also i think the fuel pump is struggling to keep up to. Only time will tell.

Im just glad she is up and runing and when boosting she is very brisk, So i will hopefully not be breaking her atm. One idiotic mistake made by myself, i have certainly lernt my lesson. :(

Here are some pics of her today after a short test drive

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/newblacky_zps181d6613.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/newblacky2_zpsd528dcc2.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/newblacky3_zps41906ba9.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/gavinkizzy/newblacky4_zps2332b5b9.jpg

jotter22
Saturday 16th March 2013, 21:52
No comets for sale then....only joking mate glad you got it sorted!

Tony

stribo
Saturday 16th March 2013, 21:57
Glad it's sorted Gav, even if you have been a plank. ;) Oblark and I were talking about it earlier, and he mentioned the flywheel was probably wrong. Now, do you want to think about the fact you broke your perfectly good red 850 because of the wrong flywheel? Probably best not to.

merc85
Saturday 16th March 2013, 21:59
The red car was obd 1 mate, it was a damaged loom as i said before,

oblark
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:02
Glad you got blacky back on the road :) and looking good :)

Nealevo
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:06
Well done Gav, another one saved from dog food cans

smithy
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:07
Glad it's sorted ps numpty lol

merc85
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:09
Well done Gav, another one saved from dog food cans

Thanks Neal, really pleased she going again, hopefully sort the niggling boost issue out, it seems to be getting a little better to, May be the ecu adapting to the fueling and head, obviously there also must be some tissue still in there somewhere to lol

Had the Red car lifted and weighed in today, got £140 for her too.

merc85
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:11
Glad it's sorted ps numpty lol

Yeah yeah in know lol :slap:

t5steve
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:15
Yippee........glad you got it sorted.........will we see you tomorrow?

V70 Graham
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:16
Glad is getting better Gav, hopefully only a couple of minor things to sort out now mate.

merc85
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:20
Yippee........glad you got it sorted.........will we see you tomorrow?

No bud, wana drive her locally just in case there must be bits still in there at least i was reving or driving her when it got sucked in, also check everything is done up tight, fit the strut brace etc, put the cowling back around the steering column and refit the bottom of the dash..... lots to do.

May even take the poxy tow bar off the back lol and fit the stainless zoost

T5frankie
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:20
well done mate

stribo
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:24
Yippee........glad you got it sorted.........will we see you tomorrow?
More to the point, will we see you at Avon next week?

merc85
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:25
Thanks frankie, btw the 850r is looking awesome buddy sure gonna be quick mate when she is finished. ;)

merc85
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:28
More to the point, will we see you at Avon next week?

doubt it bud :( got so much on these days, will deffo get her on the strip soon but wana get it rollen roaded 1st. still dont know if there has been any damage done to the valves. Lucky enough ive got to spare heads just cant be assed to go through it all again atm , just gonna run her and see.

T5frankie
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:30
Thanks frankie, btw the 850r is looking awesome buddy sure gonna be quick mate when she is finished. ;)

naturally :banana:

smithy
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:33
doubt it bud :( got so much on these days, will deffo get her on the strip soon but wana get it rollen roaded 1st. still dont know if there has been any damage done to the valves. Lucky enough ive got to spare heads just cant be assed to go through it all again atm , just gonna run her and see.

Good chance that the tissue will burn off mate .just need to do some mild tuning and then take her for a good drive .

Kingsford G
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:34
:banana: Fantastic new mate so glad she`s running now and great effort there too taking all that lot off and on again.What a true Volvo lover.R u coming to the meet tomoz or u having a rest?

merc85
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:36
Good chance that the tissue will burn off mate .just need to do some mild tuning and then take her for a good drive .

thanks buddy, she wouldnt boost over 10psi earlier then she missed at around 13psi, got her up around 15psi but the boost seems a little flat, Like you say im going to run her about then give her a good thrash leads and plugs are a deffo tho

WOODY T5
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:44
looks very nice mate glad its sorted

kyboy
Saturday 16th March 2013, 22:58
well done matey, looks well with the R bumper as well!

theflyingbrick
Saturday 16th March 2013, 23:50
well done that man...........i bet you felt a huge weight lift off your shoulders when you twigged it ;)

merc85
Sunday 17th March 2013, 00:12
well done that man...........i bet you felt a huge weight lift off your shoulders when you twigged it ;)

Kingsford was close, and i was on the same lines as AndysR who done some research and found the official Volvo modification Bulletin

Kingsford G
Sunday 17th March 2013, 00:21
doubt it bud :( got so much on these days, will deffo get her on the strip soon but wana get it rollen roaded 1st. still dont know if there has been any damage done to the valves. Lucky enough ive got to spare heads just cant be assed to go through it all again atm , just gonna run her and see.
Where r u gonna dyno it Gav?Thinking of doing mine too.

thanks buddy, she wouldnt boost over 10psi earlier then she missed at around 13psi, got her up around 15psi but the boost seems a little flat, Like you say im going to run her about then give her a good thrash leads and plugs are a deffo tho
at 10 psi u still gonna beat mine lol

merc85
Sunday 17th March 2013, 00:25
Where r u gonna dyno it Gav?Thinking of doing mine too.

at 10 psi u still gonna beat mine lol

She's runing 15psi but but the power comes and goe's so much so when it does come through it wheel spins lol.

Probably T & M again Bud, she will be runing a reg and stainless by then, Larger intercooler is fitted atm too ;)

Kingsford G
Sunday 17th March 2013, 00:31
She's runing 15psi but but the power comes and goe's so much so when it does come through it wheel spins lol.

Probably T & M again Bud, she will be runing a reg and stainless by then, Larger intercooler is fitted atm too ;)
Cool.I just wanna do before and after.Let me know when and would be nice to c the improvement from Marks car after his mods.Mine is standard,only boosts 10psi.

HowHard
Sunday 17th March 2013, 00:33
ahhhh man awesome news, glad to hear m8y. Damn it's annoying when it's something daft like that, whilst also a huge relief lol

merc85
Sunday 17th March 2013, 00:37
ahhhh man awesome news, glad to hear m8y. Damn it's annoying when it's something daft like that, whilst also a huge relief lol

Hope it helps other's out. if the later car has a the early flywheel fitted cut the location lugs on the plug off and fit it the other way round/upside down.

shepbomb
Sunday 17th March 2013, 00:51
Glad to hear this gav chuffed fir you mate..

nobananas
Sunday 17th March 2013, 11:15
Well done mate, glad you got her sorted, one less for mr scrapman !

martybelfastt5
Sunday 17th March 2013, 12:17
exellent news glad it sorted and you staying volvo!

merc85
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:05
She got her new grille think she looks quite smart, not sure wether to put the chrome slash on it or not tho?

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oblark
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:08
The grill looks the dogs :)

If I ever change my grill it would be to the one you`ve fitted.

And looks better without the chrome slash :)

volvokid
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:10
Looks perfect on a black car that does.

LiamT4
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:13
i'll go the other way, looks good but needs a badge or something to break it up.

Kingsford G
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:14
Looks much better mate.I know Andy not gonna like it tho:smile:

merc85
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:17
This is a pic with the slash

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Nealevo
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:25
With slash

merc85
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:27
With slash

It was just tacked on for the pic as i couldnt and still havent decided

volvokid
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:29
Hiw about a little T5 bagde in the corner

MoleT-5R
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:30
The slash, is an excellent addition and has just lifted a good grill to a higher level, nice work probably the best 850 grill I've seen

Biff
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:31
The badge mate. I think with a bonnet as big as a volvo's you need to fly the brand.

t5 pete
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:39
Oh for god sake i was trying to put myself off buying one and now you have done it im going to get one, looks good dude

WOODY T5
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:41
looks good mate but lot better with slash

on;-)

merc85
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:43
looks good mate but lot better with slash

on;-)

Well lol looks like the slash will be going back on ;)

Jamest5r
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:45
Looks great in black and defo with grill :), fancy one myself think it would look good on my green, costing please.

Slrmoco
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:47
looks good with the slash matey or slash off and put a old style P1800 shield badge with T5 like the one on my pick up,have a look in my garage
Seb

t5 pete
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:48
Looks great in black and defo with grill :), fancy one myself think it would look good on my green, costing please.


There on the bay or i think pfv do them £59 delivered

merc85
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:49
Looks great in black and defo with grill :), fancy one myself think it would look good on my green, costing please.

54ish Delivered PFS online ;)

T5frankie
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:50
not for me mate, i dont think there is one single nice grill for the 850

Jamest5r
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:51
There on the bay or i think pfv do them £59 delivered

I wish skint mate ebach's arriving in the morning :)

t5 pete
Thursday 18th April 2013, 21:59
I wish skint mate ebach's arriving in the morning :)

I know i said to my self just leave it as is with all the spending but im not keen on the one i have so looks like i may be spending a little more what the ebachs going on and what they replacing

Kingsford G
Thursday 18th April 2013, 22:12
Even better with the slash on

martybelfastt5
Thursday 18th April 2013, 23:20
looks perfect with slash!

M-R-P
Thursday 18th April 2013, 23:27
Send me the slash dude...

I'll send it back a bit special ;)

V70 Graham
Friday 19th April 2013, 06:19
Nice mate, but needs the slash IMHO

mitchyboy01
Friday 19th April 2013, 08:43
Definitely with grille, looks great.

partsforvolvos.com
Friday 19th April 2013, 08:51
i like it with the slash. a red 850r came in last week and it had the slash on, looked good on that as well.

My car is the dark blue, and i cant decide between the all black or chrome surround black blocks- have fitted both but cant decide !