"Engine Service Required" Intermittant, no apparent fault...

[Fubar1977]

Hi All

Recently my S60 D5 (2002) has been occasionally showing the "Engine Service Required" message.
Usually always when cold and with no engine light on the dash, no limp mode, in fact it drives and runs fine.
It will disappear if I stop and re-start the engine and not usually reappear.

I realise I need the codes read but my nearest indy is over 50 miles away and I`m trying to narrow it down as much as possible.
I`m thinking the Turbo governor may need cleaning.
Open to suggestions guys...

[JamesT5]

You can buy a code reader off the internet for the same price as if not less than, the cost of having a garage read your codes. Try looking on ebay, most to 24 hour delivery too if you order before a certain time.

Regards

James

[Yosser]

When was the fuel filter last changed?

Change it if it's been a while or you don't know - worked for me.

[Fubar1977]

Hi guys, thanks for the replies.
Fuel filter was changed over a week ago.
I`d looked into getting a code reader but have heard from several people
that most don`t work correctly on pre 2004 D5`s.
I am looking at cleaning out the Turbo control valve in the next couple of days as a precaution
but this does not seem to be turbo related as it will often come on just after startup when cold
when no boost has been applied.
I had considered vac engine mounts too but I know it`s all a guess without codes...

[M-R-P]

Try cleaning the mixer pipe mate, may of may not fix the problem but the car will run better for it.

[Fubar1977]

Try cleaning the mixer pipe mate, may of may not fix the problem but the car will run better for it.

Already done mate, one of my first jobs after buying the car.
And, yes, it was minging!

[JamesT5]

Hi guys, thanks for the replies.
Fuel filter was changed over a week ago.
I`d looked into getting a code reader but have heard from several people
that most don`t work correctly on pre 2004 D5`s.
I am looking at cleaning out the Turbo control valve in the next couple of days as a precaution
but this does not seem to be turbo related as it will often come on just after startup when cold
when no boost has been applied.
I had considered vac engine mounts too but I know it`s all a guess without codes...

I've got one that works well, it helped me diagnose faulty coil packs back in the summer.

[jdavis]

Sounds like a battery on its last legs to me.

[Fubar1977]

I've got one that works well, it helped me diagnose faulty coil packs back in the summer.

Which make/model do you have?
How much and where from?
Many thanks.

[Fubar1977]

Just a quick update if anyone`s interested.
It turned out to be the clutch position sensor.
Final piece of the puzzle was a couple of days ago when I noticed it only occurred after
dipping the clutch combined with Cruise becoming unavailable.
No sign of any obvious leak from the master cylinder (The usual cause of a failure on this sensor apparently)
so I`ll just change the sensor (£35 ish).

[M-R-P]

Good news. I had this problem for a bit but I didn't get the info screen warning (my DIM was doing a mental at the time tho) It went away for a few weeks when I cleared the fault code and then came back, coupled with the cruise not working. Not come back for a year now tho. :D

[ShadeTek]

It went away for a few weeks when I cleared the fault code and then came back, coupled with the cruise not working. Not come back for a year now tho. :D

This is what I had a few weeks ago. Try unplugging the connector and re-plugging the it on the brake angle sensor on the vacuum assist.

[M-R-P]

Cheerz, I've not had the problem since I had the new DIM. Now that probably didn't affect it but I had a software update at the same time (freebee after I cicked-off about paying £735 for a bloody speedo) which i think may have altered the perameters for error reporting on a few sensors, making it ignore slight fluctuations in the sensor circuit.

well, that's the only reaon I can come up with anyway.

[Fubar1977]

Just relieved that (for once!) it's been a cheap fix :-)

New pic coming soon?
Have you been car shopping Martin?

Because you will have to keep the explod until 2030 to get your money
back out of it..sorry ;-))

[M-R-P]

Haha! funny dude ;)

Gotta get the right pic to use for my new sig. These things take time ;) Sunday I recon, stay tuned.

[Fubar1977]

It`s OK I`ll need to keep mine until I retire.

Cost of car: £1900
Cost of work/repairs to date: £2675

eeeek!
I look to you as inspiration ;-)

[M-R-P]

I look to you as inspiration ;-)

Bloody fool, haven't you learned anything? lmao! :hilarious

£3100 for me, well, £3140 now, after my latest mod, but I did get the car for free :D

[Fubar1977]

I`d love to see a list of what you`ve done and what it`s cost.

It makes me feel like I`m not the only total loony out there lol.

That said I feel better than my dad who, in the last 6 years has basically "spent" £1300 per year just on
depreciation!
Never mind interest on the car finance etc.
And then it spat its turbo last month at £600! (55 plate Octavia TDi)

New cars = Mugs game

[M-R-P]

Well...
DIM - 735
Timing belt - £ 183
gearbox flush x 2 - 28 each
clutch, flywheel and slave - £1100
powerflex parts (loads) - about £150
Leather interior and roof lining - £55.50
Vinyl wrapping the roof - £45+burgers
inner and outer track rods - £70
Brembo 305 disks - £84
Plod pads - £37
tints - £12
Spoiler - £30
C/F wrap - £10
Leather gear knob and gaitor - £5
Fuel flap -£6
tyres - ?
strut top mounts - 30
Various wheel alignments - £130+
Apex lowering springs - £40 (oh yes, and they were new lol)
Front shocks (boge automatic) - £190
Spark pluge - £40 (ish)
LED interior lighting - £14
Better headlight bulbs - £25
Silicone hose upgrade - £14
MBC - £14
Loads of paints, fillers anclear coats to tidy the body up.
Can't remember what else lol, I have a big box of recipts :D

[amd550]

I know i don't have a d5 but a t5 but iv spent abit on mine lol

Car was £4000
2 month later 250 for vvt unit +
80 for timing belt +
260 to volvo and this is the best one yet
1500 For new engine as volvo §§§§ed the other by smashing cylinder 5
150 to get the car to preston
50 for train tickets to pick it up
80 for a new brake caliper
60 for mac strut tops
120 for 2 wishbones + baljoints

Iv stopped spending at the monet no money left
but needs a full respary aswell lol.

Hope you didn't mind me adding my bit lol

[M-R-P]

Lol, I think we all spend too much on these things, somebody said it's like a family pet - you just don't mind as you get so much from it.
Apart from a remap, I have little else to spend on her... oh, she needs 2 new rear tyres lol.

[amd550]

av dont mods like k&n and uprated tcv + all vacume pipes replaced. made the respones better. your right i do spend lots on it because its my pride and joy. always wanted a t5 from the erly 850 glts. when i got this its just been abused buy the cops and it finaly let go. volvo didn't help the engine but the timing was well shot as some donut smashed the bottom sprocket onto the crank and didn't put the nut on. missed it on viewing the car but not someting your going to look for on a 150+ mph chase car are you lol.

[M-R-P]

Yep, the ex plods get a cicking don't they lol. Just goesto show how tough these cars are, mine's on 194+k and after all the cash spent and the huge amount of blood, sweat and swearing, she's an amazing bit of kit.

Have a look at the sticker on the top of your gearbox... Look for M56LK. then look for one of 2 numbers - either 4.00 or 3.75. If you have the 3.75, you have a car that is potentially capable of 192 mph @ 6100 rpm!

[Fubar1977]

Wow!

Thanks for the replies guys, I don`t feel like quite such a looney now.

Well, I do but I know I`m in the company of similar minded loonies lol.

I know I`m not there yet as I`ve spent the money bringing the car back up to scratch so
now, hopefully, I can start spending it on the stuff I actually WANT to do to it.

I`m planning on keeping this one till it dies so I`d like to uprate and improve things as I go as well
as adding things the original owner didn`t bother speccing.

Wife thinks I`m a bit mad but she`s just bought a brand new car and so will be spending her money on
depreciation, whereas mines fallen about as low as it`ll ever get.
As I keep telling her, your`s may be newer but mines faster, paid for and in front of you!

Volvo for Life!