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jardon
Sunday 9th September 2012, 21:39
Just a quick story of my last weeks pottering. I bought a set of calipers and carriers labelled "2008 S60 2.4T" - on that basis Tim and I expected them to need 320mm discs as that's what a 2008 T5 has. They were ex-police I think as they came with pads that had the wiring for wear indicators.

I started last Sunday night by taking off the wheel and trying to get the flexy off the caliper.

My spanners were no good so I bought some B+Q brake pipe spanners. These were §§§§e and I was rounding the nuts. In the end I cut the old hose, got a mole grips and decent spanner at the body end of the flexi and it came off.

I drilled the 12mm hub carrier holes to 14 mm easily enough (aluminum) but then immediately blunted the bit when drilling the steering stop deflectors (steel). I had a hand drill on full speed so it overheated. My mate has a pillar drill so a new bit later we were sorted - the bolts were tight at the shoulder so we opened the holes out to 14.5mm to half the depth of the deflectors.

The disc and carrier bolted up nicely but there was 4mm spare disc at the outer edge and the pads were 4mm over the inner edge (discs to big or carriers too small). I also noticed that the caliper body was fouling a "nipple" that protrudes from the front of the deflector thingy - suggesting carriers too small.

I made a few calls that day to Tim, MRG and FRF and in the end we established that these calipers were used on 316mm discs on XC90's - that's the set-up I had. Either the breakers had wrongly labelled the calipers or they had genuinely come off a police car that had 316mm fitted - they do fit used parts so could easily have been the case. 320mm discs exchanged for 316mm and all looks spot on.

I then confidently moved to the off-side and snapped the fitting off the hard pipe. FFFFAAAAAAARRKK!! In all honesty by this stage I was laughing and as ever Tim talked me through it all. Last resort was dragging him here to flare the pipe in-situ (I didn't fancy getting that job wrong). Lucky for him I managed to get the pipe off the car (stuck a bleed nipple in to plug the ABS unit) and a mate sorted it.

After a lot of waggling the pipe is back on and the off-side caliper sorted. All bled quickly (used super blue in the end for ease) and the pedal is really firm - way better than before. This could be the new calipers as there is less room for flex or it could be that the pedal gets softer when your pads are worn - my old xp10's were quite low.

Test drive was lovely - firm pedal, XP8's great initial bite even from new.

I reckon there's a spare 10mm between the caliper and the wheel so maybe next time I'll source 336mm XC90 calipers!!

Thanks to Tim for letting me bother him pretty much every day week.

Every cloud though - I've been cycling to work all week and it felt really good.

glock19
Monday 10th September 2012, 01:41
:worthless

jardon
Monday 10th September 2012, 09:03
I thought of taking pics along the way to demonstrate my ineptitude but sadly that didn't happen either. I will post up a pic of what they look like behind dirty Amaltheas later.

The calipers are enormous when you consider the pads are near enough identical to the 305mm set up (and would be the same size on the 336mm too). The nice thing is that the outside pad is held in the caliper by it's own securing spring rather than being loose. I'm wondering if there will be less XP8 squeal as a result?

glock19
Tuesday 11th September 2012, 02:30
XP8 is more for fast road and light track, so until they warm up to the feat, slight squeals are normal.

jardon
Tuesday 11th September 2012, 07:14
I had xp10's on the front with the 305mm discs and they were quite noisy. I went with a less aggressive pad this time as I have increased the disc size. I have stock rear discs with xp8's and I wanted a balanced set up.

MattM
Tuesday 11th September 2012, 10:54
316mm are standard on the facelift S60 T5 :)

jardon
Tuesday 11th September 2012, 11:30
316mm are standard on the facelift S60 T5 :)

So what came with 320mm?

MattM
Tuesday 11th September 2012, 12:22
I'm not sure, I asked Rufe about the 320mm but he said they don't fit my car.

jardon
Tuesday 11th September 2012, 12:32
I think the calipers are the same on 316, 320 and 336mm discs but they have different size carriers to suit. I'll take a picture of mine later.

MattM
Tuesday 11th September 2012, 14:36
When I asked Rufe about 320mm for my car he said


No they will not. The 320mm discs require a completely different caliper than what you have fitted.

glock19
Wednesday 12th September 2012, 03:26
Or you are mistaken and it should be 302mm like the s60-T5 2001-2004 ? :D

ploppy
Wednesday 12th September 2012, 10:51
Rufe has told me too,

my ex plod 2005 55 Plate V70 T5 2.4 is a 316mm front discs police spec.

Ploppy :cop::cop:

jardon
Wednesday 12th September 2012, 12:59
16970

16971

M-R-P
Wednesday 12th September 2012, 13:18
Or you are mistaken and it should be 302mm like the s60-T5 2001-2004 ? :D

305... 302 was P1 ;)

Jardon, your wheels could do with a clean there mate lol.

jardon
Wednesday 12th September 2012, 14:48
I'd have to clean the rest of it then though.

Edit - they are anthracite under there not silver!!