S60r buying advice

[dps1973]

Ok I am considering coming back to the Volvo clan. My choice is going tobe a s60r around a 2004 model. I have £5000 to spend any advice and things too look out for. I am also wanting a manual as I am not an auto man ;) Thanks guys

[MattM]

What about a 2005 S60 T5 with a remap? It'll be a lot cheaper to run/less stuff to go wrong.

[jbconno]

What about a 2005 S60 T5 with a remap? It'll be a lot cheaper to run/less stuff to go wrong.

+1 :-)

[graemewelch]

You selling yrs matt

[MattM]

Nah, love mine :)

[Jimmie]

If you want an R go for it,more comfort etc.over a t5 but go for a 05 model on..
Remember and do your homework before you buy anything.

[Harvey]

2005 year on cars are harder to find and also make sure you try all the electrics items work ,head light wipers,crank case vent system,alarm system siren,awd system,service history,cam belt,cd player changer plays all discs,

[graemewelch]

If you want an R go for it,more comfort etc.over a t5 but go for a 05 model on..
Remember and do your homework before you buy anything.
Whats the extra comfort. Ive got a se lux and its better spec'd than most r's

[Harvey]

I know my R has a better ride than my old S60 D5 SE that had 18" alloys on it ,my R has 17" on it and it's does make a difference to the ride,just fitted some 18" alloys to the R I still think the ride is better ,mind you only drive around on comfort mode.

[M-R-P]

I can't find the post but this question came - up a while back. There was one answer that made me giggle. It went something like this...

"Don't bother - It'll only go wrong in new and expensive ways that only a main stealer can fix!"

[MattM]

When I was getting my T5 remapped at HLM Hamish had an R in, said it had been in quite a lot for work and had cost the owner £1,000s. He came to the same conclusion as me, repair bills are too expensive when things go wrong.

[volvokid]

My last service cost me just over 2 k.

[M-R-P]

My last service cost me just over 2 k.

:yikes: Mine cost £18 lol.

[MattM]

Get it bought :)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201234483009791/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/model/s60/make/volvo/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/radius/1501/postcode/mk44gu/keywords/t5?logcode=p

[dps1973]

Thanks mat, is that the same engine as yours.

[M-R-P]

Widely regarded as the best T5 engine for tuning. Matt's running 321bhp from little more than a remap. (although the 2319cc can take more of a beating ;))

[dps1973]

That's what I miss the aggressive ness from my old one, I am also pondering over a 98 s60r from a member on here.

[M-R-P]

S60R wasn't introduced till 2003 mate :)

[Jimmie]

Even though i spent in excess of three grand the dealer said a T5 would have still been that price.
Make your own mind up which way way you would rather go'
I know i wouldn't change back to a T5.!

[dps1973]

Ok, if I am too steer clear of the earlier one do I go for the 2.4 or 2.5?

[dps1973]

Thanks guys. Still a good forum this.

[MattM]

The face lift S60 is 2.4 and stock power is 260, and maps easily over 300bhp. The pre-facelift is a 2.3 and produces 250bhp and doesn't map to as much.

My RR print out.

http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae4/mmccann722/IMG_0002.png

[M-R-P]

From just a map, yep, the 2.4 with it's racist turbo goes much better. it's when you're going for silly power...

[stribo]

The R remaps to 340bhp no problems ;)

[MattM]

The R remaps to 340bhp no problems ;)

Yup. The point I was making really is that you can R like performance from the later T5 with only a remap, with the added benefit of not having crazy bills.

[M-R-P]

Yup. The point I was making really is that you can R like performance from the later T5 with only a remap, with the added benefit of not having crazy bills.

Wot he said :D
watch what happens when an R runs 350+bhp for prolonged periods... there's a reason Ford cobalt lined the bores for the RS ;)
2.3 or 2.4 will most likely throw a rod before the bore splits.

[MattM]

According to parkers the R is 150kg more than the T5 :o

[M-R-P]

The power to weight is still better tho..
From memory -
S60R basic spec is 188bhp per metric ton,
S60 T5 (250bhp version) around 159bhp per metric ton.
320bhp 2.4 t5 would be about 207 bhp per ton

oh dear... who needs AWD when the straights are so much fun :D

[Pauld]

My last service cost me just over 2 k.

My last service was less than £300. I assume the 2k included plenty of non service work i.e. brakes etc to bump it up?

[MattM]

Using parkers weight and mapped figures.

T5 mapped
Weight: 1486 kg
Power: 321BHP
Power to Weight: 216BHP/Tonne

R mapped
Weight: 1653kg
Power: 340BHP
Power to Weight: 205BHP/Tonne

[M-R-P]

I wasn't far out then ;)
Let's not work-out the power to weight on my V70 with it's Plod reinforced chassis...:(

[MattM]

You should just be able to get triple digits ;)

[M-R-P]

Cheeky sod! :finger:
Last weighed with 5th amelthea, tools, kid's crap etc - 1632kg.
MBC set at 16psi, weird plod goings-on with the engine, 250+whatever plod did+extra 5.5psi boost = who knows. It's bloody quick though lol.

[LeeT5]

Whats the extra comfort. Ive got a se lux and its better spec'd than most r's

Really?? So what's an SE Lux got that an R hasn't?

[LeeT5]

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[LeeT5]

The R remaps to 340bhp no problems ;)

*Cough*....354bhp :)

[Jimmie]

My last service was less than £300. I assume the 2k included plenty of non service work i.e. brakes etc to bump it up?

What type of service did you get for that amount of money?

[LiamT4]

One thing you have to remember about the Rs is like all awds, it has higher transmission losses and weight over the 2wd versions. So once there is enough grip the awd is just extra drag and weight.

The R does have that "special" feeling over the t5 though and is obviously better when its dodgy conditions.

[LeeT5]

Ok, if I am too steer clear of the earlier one do I go for the 2.4 or 2.5?

2.4T5 or 2.5R?

If you get an R then it will be a 2.5.

[graemewelch]

Really?? So what's an SE Lux got that an R hasn't?

Nowt same as r has nowt the se lux hasnt. 354 bhp and bogged down by a 4wd system made of swish cheese. Theres nowt stoping me from having 354 bhp

[stribo]

Nowt same as r has nowt the se lux hasnt. 354 bhp and bogged down by a 4wd system made of swish cheese. Theres nowt stoping me from having 354 bhp
Yeah, but try putting that power down on anything other than a dry, flat, smooth road, and you'll have wheelspin, and torque steer galore. The R however, just gets up and goes.;)

[Pauld]

What type of service did you get for that amount of money?

Hence the question....

[Harvey]

Yeah, but try putting that power down on anything other than a dry, flat, smooth road, and you'll have wheelspin, and torque steer galore. The R however, just gets up and goes.;)

All I can say is put some winter tyres on it and let's see who has the most fun in the snow,I had a great time last winter up on Dartmoor didn't get stuck once unlike most of the other cars ,ok it's only one week a year still.

[M-R-P]

Yeah, but try putting that power down on anything other than a dry, flat, smooth road, and you'll have wheelspin, and torque steer galore. The R however, just gets up and goes BANG in a shower of sparks and molten metal

Full sentance please...

[graemewelch]

Yeah, but try putting that power down on anything other than a dry, flat, smooth road, and you'll have wheelspin, and torque steer galore. The R however, just gets up and goes.;)

Ive tried it. Never had torque steer in my motor. Even in wet if put power down in a sensible way it wont spin. I keep my cars in tip top condition so i be worried if had torque steer. It would mean sumit is worn out on the suspension. End of the day though if we wanted a car that handles exelent dose very fast 1/4 mile wed buy evos. But we want a comfy refined quick car thats reliable ish (r drivers :-) and is safe should the worst ever happen and we are in a crash

[volvokid]

My 2k statement wasn't the best thing to say and leave it there. Yeah there was bushes and such that needed doing . I should have mentioned it got a replacement head unit too, so nothing was changed that you would really say is a typical r problem. The only thing I've had go wrong that is an expensive r part was my front shocks.

[d2k]

from what i can gather most if not all of the earlier S60Rs are very well cared for..... there's not many dogs out there, getting quite rare now.

they're serious enthusiasts models... but as others have said, for 2/3 grand you can pick up a facelift T5 (FWD) & attain comparable performance & comfort.

tbh..... i think you'd be hard pushed on uk roads to notice much of a difference between 290bhp & 320bhp unless your blatting up the M1 like its the autobahn....

though i wont lie... id love an S60R i just dont think i could fund the maintenance costs if it decides to go pete tong!!

[Jimmie]

Hence the question....

Hence the question to you when the parts are around £400 discounted.

[LeeT5]

Nowt same as r has nowt the se lux hasnt. 354 bhp and bogged down by a 4wd system made of swish cheese. Theres nowt stoping me from having 354 bhp

Oh come on, lets not get into a awd V fwd debate....there boring! We all know the pros and cons to both systems.

[Sharkey R]

The R is a rarer car and so will depreciate in value less than a T5.

[Sharkey R]

One thing you have to remember about the Rs is like all awds, it has higher transmission losses and weight over the 2wd versions. So once there is enough grip the awd is just extra drag and weight.

The R does have that "special" feeling over the t5 though and is obviously better when its dodgy conditions.

I think everyone should look on YouTube for the crazy Russian guy with a 500hp R. He's playing with that in snowy conditions.

[Sonor]

Well, having owned just about every T5 & R model (& plenty of them!) inc the S60T5, I am on my 2nd S60R. If you want a car thats cheap to run/maintain, don't buy one, end of. They're not as problamaic as people tend to make out either, you have to maintain them well though and don't scrimp. They're no worse than any other comparable performance car.
With regards to the T5 & R comparison, there is none. The R will run rings round a T5 from stand still & in the twisties and will stop a damn site quicker as well - on the road and track (in standard form).

[LeeT5]

Well, having owned just about every T5 & R model (& plenty of them!) inc the S60T5, I am on my 2nd S60R. If you want a car thats cheap to run/maintain, don't buy one, end of. They're not as problamaic as people tend to make out either, you have to maintain them well though and don't scrimp. They're no worse than any other comparable performance car.
With regards to the T5 & R comparison, there is none. The R will run rings round a T5 from stand still & in the twisties and will stop a damn site quicker as well - on the road and track (in standard form).

Enough said. NEXT!!!

[jdavis]

quite a debate going on here.
S60 T5's dont come in the aqua colour like Volvokids (my favourite colour of the 'R's)
The R is designed to be Volvo's High Performance model so will need pampering like many high performance cars do, including the service cost to suit.
The T5 on the other hand is like the everyday guys performance car (no offence intended). Reliable, quick enough to put a smile on your face but it isn't a race car

[LiamT4]

As an everyday car i'd have the 2.4 t5, i'v just read about too many issues with the R where as the T5 seems pretty much bullet proof. As a second car though, i'd go for the R.

Although saying that, now i'v seen how cheap you can get an s-type R, i'd have one of those and damn the running costs!! lol

[Jimmie]

Do you guys believe everything you read?

[LeeT5]

Do you guys believe everything you read?

Meaning?

[M-R-P]

For all the slagging-off I give the R, I would love to own one, a manual V70R in black to be precise. BUT the potential for massive running costs is far too high. My T5 has cost me over £3k in the last 16 months. It could have cost me even more if I used Volvo to do the work (nearly double). Just imagine the cost if I'd had that sort of luck with an R... Brakes, shocks, clutch, DIM, wishbones, track rods...

Enjoy your Rs lads ;)

[Harvey]

For all the slagging-off I give the R, I would love to own one, a manual V70R in black to be precise. BUT the potential for massive running costs is far too high. My T5 has cost me over £3k in the last 16 months. It could have cost me even more if I used Volvo to do the work (nearly double). Just imagine the cost if I'd had that sort of luck with an R... Brakes, shocks, clutch, DIM, wishbones, track rods...

Enjoy your Rs lads ;)

We R enjoying ours R's Thanks

[LiamT4]

Do you guys believe everything you read?

Actually, i should have said read and heard about as one of the blokes who runs my local volvo independent garage has one and as much as he loves it, even he says they are one of volvo more unreliable cars.

[Sharkey R]

In the 2 years I've owned mine the only real issue I have had, touch wood, is a faulty headlight ballast. If you take your car to a specialist rather than a main stealer the running cost are cut by around 40%. No offence to T5 owners but I prefer the idea of having a rare car in a rare colour that will hold its value over time than a more common car that will depriciate quicker. Every car has common faults. R's need looking after but no more than any other high performance car. Don't be put off by the scary stories you hear about them.

[volvokid]

I wish we had specialists round here, even the main dealer I use and have a 200 mile round trip to get to isn't that clued up on them

[Jimmie]

Lee;
How many reviews have you read where the author including forum members have downed a certain vehicle as being troublesome. It is often only there opinion or hearsay?.
You as a mechanic should know that any motor etc will give you a problem if not looked after and serviced properly.
My R has given me no more problems than any other vehicle that i'v owned maybe even less.

[LeeT5]

Actually, i should have said read and heard about as one of the blokes who runs my local volvo independent garage has one and as much as he loves it, even he says they are one of volvo more unreliable cars.

I think 'Unreliable' is not the right word to use. In the two years i've owned my R, she's never not started and only ever brokedown once but i managed to restart and limp to the garage (fuel pressure sensor). In the grand scheme of things, i'd consider that Very bloody reliable indeed!!
What can let these cars down is the cost of some parts and unfortunately, wear and tear items will always need replacing.

In the last 2 months my car has cost me £4300, however, £600 of that was cosmetic and the rest were parts that needed to be replaced due to excess wear or parts not doing the job they're designed to do properly.

Other than the slight wear in the awd system (yes the Propshaft and angle gear have been replaced) she drives like new, with no knocks, bangs, rattles or squeaks. Everything works, not a bulb doesn't light and more importantly, everytime i turn the key she puts an wicked smile on my face! Priceless!!

Taking ALL i've just said into consideration, there aren't very many cars in or out of production that can do that without having to re - mortgage when it goes in for service or repair - i can tell you.

I can put up with all the little quirks and the odd expensive repair/maintenance bill that comes along because as far as i'm concerned, the S60R/V70R will always be one of the greatest cars that Volvo ever built. ALL cars have their faults, Volvo's included. To that end, i'll continue to spend money on my car and maintain her to a level that is more than acceptable cos at the end of the day, she's rare, she's fast, she's practical and above all she's worth it!

MRP....i'll give you first dibs on my R if and when i decide to sell. Don't hold yer breath thou mate cos you might have a long wait. :wink:

[LeeT5]

Yeah, but try putting that power down on anything other than a dry, flat, smooth road, and you'll have wheelspin, and torque steer galore. The R however, just gets up and goes.;)

I'll second that!

[LeeT5]

My 2k statement wasn't the best thing to say and leave it there. Yeah there was bushes and such that needed doing . I should have mentioned it got a replacement head unit too, so nothing was changed that you would really say is a typical r problem. The only thing I've had go wrong that is an expensive r part was my front shocks.

With respect Martyn, shocks are wear and tear items (even R shocks) so i wouldn't class that as a part that went wrong! ALL shocks wear out at some point, fact.

[LeeT5]

Lee;
How many reviews have you read where the author including forum members have downed a certain vehicle as being troublesome. It is often only there opinion or hearsay?.
You as a mechanic should know that any motor etc will give you a problem if not looked after and serviced properly.
My R has given me no more problems than any other vehicle that i'v owned maybe even less.

...And your point being? Why are you directing that question at me? I'm on my second R now and having owned them in total for 6 years, i know all about the running costs. Like people have said, there no more problematic than any other performance car with a £40k price tag.
If you wanna know what expensive to run is...then try running an Audi RS4/6 when your shocks cost £800 each, or a Range rover Sport (late shape), get a mirror knocked off one of those and you can kiss goodbye to £900!!
Like i said, in the grand scheme of things, running/owning an R isn't that expensive when compared to all the other high performance motors on the road.

Talking about reliability.....ask yourself this question; When was the last time you saw an S60R/V70R broke down on the side of the road or on the back of a recovery truck? The answer would probably be...never! Now ask yourself when you last saw a T5 or any other Volvo brokendown or on a truck? Answer would be .....can't remember.
Fact is, Volvo's are one of the most reliable cars on the roads and i for one can swear by that because of the job i do.

[LeeT5]

Lee;
How many reviews have you read where the author including forum members have downed a certain vehicle as being troublesome. It is often only there opinion or hearsay?.Not many!
You as a mechanic should know that any motor etc will give you a problem if not looked after and serviced properly.I totally agree.
My R has given me no more problems than any other vehicle that i'v owned maybe even less. Sweet. Same for me mate.

I'm basically saying that owning an R is not as expensive as you might think. Having a 4C chassis, Bi-Xenon lights, lowered suspension and AWD does complicate things but if it didn't have these then it would just be a T5. I agree with you Jimmie!!

[LeeT5]

S60 T5's dont come in the aqua colour like Volvokids (my favourite colour of the 'R's)


'Flash green Pearl' mate.:smile:

[M-R-P]

This has been fascinating.
Lee, not taking the bladder-contents, in all honesty, I meant what I said. The R is something I can only dream of owning. what youve mentioned about your recent service costs only reinforces my point though. I don't have an angle gear to worry about so there's one thing less to spend-on, my shocks cost me 190quid for the pair, and they're the best quality ones I can get without going race-spec and who's to say race/fast road shocks are any better for my purposes?
the R is stunning and fast but for me, who got a tatty old ex plod T5 for nowt, the ratio of smiles per quid makes the Boggo-T5 a better deal, by a long shot.
Like I said, enjoy your Rs lads. Because, if you were me, you would have had to scrap your car for the sake of shocks and disks,

[JUDGENINJA]

Talking about reliability.....ask yourself this question; When was the last time you saw an S60R/V70R broke down on the side of the road or on the back of a recovery truck? The answer would probably be...never! Now ask yourself when you last saw a T5 or any other Volvo brokendown or on a truck? Answer would be .....can't remember.
Fact is, Volvo's are one of the most reliable cars on the roads and i for one can swear by that because of the job i do.

....mine.... Twice!!! Total gearbox failure then Total engine failure...
Service history on my 850 shows a new turbo at 70k and gearbox at 100k
I blew the gearbox at 160k and the engine at 185k...

They are still reliable in comparison to what I used to do with it(120-150mph sustained for 15mins each day to work).

[Justin]

Its an easy choice really, If you want a tyre shredding nutter bus that won't handle well (especially in the wet and freezing conditions) is less desirable unless you want to willy wave down the pub about your BHP figure after its remapped, buy the 2.4 T5.

If you want the opposite with more power (that you can use like the Martini girl), a feel of exclusivity to it, and have a few quid to buy a good warranty, buy the R!

I've owned every model and variant and had 2 R's, i loved mine and had the angle gear go (50/50 bill with Volvo) and a turbo blow, i am still looking for a top spec one with low miles to garage for a few years.

[LiamT4]

I think 'Unreliable' is not the right word to use. In the two years i've owned my R, she's never not started and only ever brokedown once but i managed to restart and limp to the garage (fuel pressure sensor). In the grand scheme of things, i'd consider that Very bloody reliable indeed!!
What can let these cars down is the cost of some parts and unfortunately, wear and tear items will always need replacing.

In the last 2 months my car has cost me £4300, however, £600 of that was cosmetic and the rest were parts that needed to be replaced due to excess wear or parts not doing the job they're designed to do properly.

Other than the slight wear in the awd system (yes the Propshaft and angle gear have been replaced) she drives like new, with no knocks, bangs, rattles or squeaks. Everything works, not a bulb doesn't light and more importantly, everytime i turn the key she puts an wicked smile on my face! Priceless!!

Taking ALL i've just said into consideration, there aren't very many cars in or out of production that can do that without having to re - mortgage when it goes in for service or repair - i can tell you.

I can put up with all the little quirks and the odd expensive repair/maintenance bill that comes along because as far as i'm concerned, the S60R/V70R will always be one of the greatest cars that Volvo ever built. ALL cars have their faults, Volvo's included. To that end, i'll continue to spend money on my car and maintain her to a level that is more than acceptable cos at the end of the day, she's rare, she's fast, she's practical and above all she's worth it!

MRP....i'll give you first dibs on my R if and when i decide to sell. Don't hold yer breath thou mate cos you might have a long wait. :wink:

I can see you really like your R and want to make your point, which is totally fair enough, i'm the same with my 540i. I'm just saying what my garage has told me, and thats they tend to have more issues than most other volvos. What with the awd, and 4c chassis.

What you have to remember is that we're (well i'm not) saying that they are unreliable as a car, i do like them a lot as they come in great colours, have very nice interiors and they are a fanatstic combination of performance, grip and comfort, its just that i personnally wouldn't have one as an everyday car.

[MattM]

£4300 in 2 months is mega running costs! You could buy a decent spec 2.4 T5 for that :p

[LeeT5]

£4300 in 2 months is mega running costs! You could buy a decent spec 2.4 T5 for that :p

It was actually £3700 as i also had wheel refurb and front end respray which are actually not running costs. I agree, i could of, but then my R wouldn't be looking her best and that is unforgiveable!

[s_cowen]

when buying an s60R make sure you find one that's already had the angle gear done, one less expensive job for you, then all you need to worry about is the shocks, turbo, clutch & normal ware & tare parts. These bits normally get tired over the 100k+ mark depending how the car has been treat throughout its life but you have got to remember that once these jobs are done & if you use quality parts you could probably get a another good 100k out of them again!
I have just bought a full set of genuine Brembo pads & discs for mine & it only come to £230, That's back & front not too bad considering the quality. the shocks can also be bought in pairs for around £340 pound if you do a bit of shopping around instead of nearly £500 for one at Volvo. stay away from volvo if you can & try & find a decent indy Volvo specialist & you can cut your bills in more than half!

I find my s60r to be the most reliable car I have owned considering the abuse it gets & its never let me down once, touch wood.

[Justin]

I have just bought a full set of genuine Brembo pads & discs for mine & it only come to £230, That's back & front not too bad considering the quality. the shocks can also be bought in pairs for around £340 pound if you do a bit of shopping around instead of nearly £500 for one at Volvo. stay away from volvo if you can & try & find a decent indy Volvo specialist & you can cut your bills in more than half!

For comparison, the front discs and pads on my RS4 are £1200 to replace!!!!!!!

[s_cowen]

For comparison, the front discs and pads on my RS4 are £1200 to replace!!!!!!!

Wow & that's just the front!

[Santa]

Reliable or unreliable its usually how hard you drive the car......problem with the s60r/v70r is that without will power you can drive it hard and drive it hard often.

Punching gravity and friction in the face causes accelerated wear

[Justin]

Wow & that's just the front!

Exactly, its a 2k job to replace disks and pads! The R cars are cheap to repair in comparison....

[Jimmie]

Exactly, its a 2k job to replace disks and pads! The R cars are cheap to repair in comparison....
And you would get a shock at the price you would be offered for your RS4 in a trade in.
An S60r is much better value.
Justin do you find the Audi is very cramped inside,i did?

[volvokid]

What was it again my mate got offered from Audi for his 1 year old RS5 with 20k of extras against a V10 R8......... mid 20s. I would have took that offer, what a deal. Naattt

[Santa]

I doubt he would want to ever part with it Jimmie, you should see his grin when he's behind the wheel of it

[Justin]

And you would get a shock at the price you would be offered for your RS4 in a trade in.
An S60r is much better value.
Justin do you find the Audi is very cramped inside,i did?

Not really cramped, suits me fine, i wouldn't trade it either as i love it.

[Hoppsym]

So the question is who has an r for sale for 5k with all above problems sorted, il buy it

[graemewelch]

bet youll be hard pushed to find some one who will part with one thats had most are all the issues sorted. im keep saying im going to sell my t5 so can get a estate but i cant part with it.

[MattM]

You'll not find a car with a better package for the price Graeme.

[graemewelch]

thats the problem. wish i could find a good v70 t5 or v70r with sensible miles.

[Hoppsym]

I know, been looking fo weeks now there's a green one on ph with a LPG kit on that takes me fancy just don't know enough about them to ask the questions, someone do me a list il ring it tomorrow haha, yours is nice tho Graeme

[graemewelch]

I know, been looking fo weeks now there's a green one on ph with a LPG kit on that takes me fancy just don't know enough about them to ask the questions, someone do me a list il ring it tomorrow haha, yours is nice tho Graeme


Took me a long time to find it. Was tempted by a r befor i found this one. If i ever see sense ill sell mine and get a estate that i need

[Hoppsym]

Took me a long time to find it. Was tempted by a r befor i found this one. If i ever see sense ill sell mine and get a estate that i need

Il have either if I find anice one was going to buy a evo tomorrow but I keep hanging on for a Volvo haha

[graemewelch]

if want a fast car with outstanding grip then the evo is your car. im still in two minds about my car. sell it keep it. its been up forsale 3 times, if only i could make up my mind. take your time youll find the right car. you never know you might even come across mine for sale one day

[s_cowen]

Here is a nice one................................http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLVO-S60-R-AWD-300-BHP-4DR-MANUAL-/170903265149?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27caa0df7d#ht_1215wt_1271

[Hoppsym]

Yeah I know already had 3 just sick of looking and waiting for a Volvo I go in full circle audis BMW merc evo and always come back to Volvo, I can have Kieron's cheap as his getting a company c30 but want something speced even tho it's a nice car, I looked at that one not a fan or the orange trim, if I bought a earlier one I'd have to get strips etc colour coordinated

[graemewelch]

this is the only one id consider on ebay. just realised who it is thats looking for a car. im happy to view any motors with you. im no expert but i do know my way around a car. you could even test me and make a cheeky offer on mine hehe


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-S60-S60R-2-5-TURBO-FULLY-LOADED-ONLY-41-000-MLS-PETROL-MANUAL-2003-03-/280901153091?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4167037143

[s_cowen]

Here is some pictures of mine,

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5804/img0243ew.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/852/img0165hcx.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/117/img0225bzy.jpg
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7199/img0416fx.jpg

I paid £3300 for it & took me absolutely ages to find one, it came with almost full mot & just under 100k on the clocks, the amount of service history i got with it was unreal & going off the receipts the previous owners had spent thousands on it from shocks to angle gear & Rica remap (bonus) or otherwise I wouldn't of bought it,

The only problems I have had with it so far are faulty MAP sensor & blocked PCV which should be done at around 100k anyhow, Oh & my intercooler cracked so I fitted a More efficient FMIC, The paintwork is not the best got the odd scratch & scuff but after all it is nearly 10 years old.

I must admit the car is a pleasure to drive it pulls like a train in every gear, good handling comfy Safe & reliable, I am only 25 & people say to me why do you drive a granddads car but I assure you there faces sharp change when they see & here it go :smile:

Before I moved over to Volvo I was into jap crap, had an impreza with 340bhp & spent thousands on it, blew the engine up twice must say I would rather the Volvo any day!

[s_cowen]

this is the only one id consider on ebay. just realised who it is thats looking for a car. im happy to view any motors with you. im no expert but i do know my way around a car. you could even test me and make a cheeky offer on mine hehe


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-S60-S60R-2-5-TURBO-FULLY-LOADED-ONLY-41-000-MLS-PETROL-MANUAL-2003-03-/280901153091?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4167037143

Nice millage on this one :smile:

[graemewelch]

if you ever fancy giving the body work the once over im happy to help. getting what i think are good results now. check out the detailing section

[LeeT5]

Here is a nice one................................http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLVO-S60-R-AWD-300-BHP-4DR-MANUAL-/170903265149?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27caa0df7d#ht_1215wt_1271

Nice car. Shame they never bothered to fit a new DMF when they fitted the new clutch thou!! :ashamed::slap:. May aswell not bothered. A new DMF with the new clutch would have made a huge difference. Instead of 100k of reliability it will be a question of 'when to change the DMF'....and while your there chuck ANOTHER clutch in too!!

[M-R-P]

Here is some pictures of mine,

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5804/img0243ew.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/852/img0165hcx.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/117/img0225bzy.jpg
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7199/img0416fx.jpg

I paid £3300 for it & took me absolutely ages to find one, it came with almost full mot & just under 100k on the clocks, the amount of service history i got with it was unreal & going off the receipts the previous owners had spent thousands on it from shocks to angle gear & Rica remap (bonus) or otherwise I wouldn't of bought it,

The only problems I have had with it so far are faulty MAP sensor & blocked PCV which should be done at around 100k anyhow, Oh & my intercooler cracked so I fitted a More efficient FMIC, The paintwork is not the best got the odd scratch & scuff but after all it is nearly 10 years old.

I must admit the car is a pleasure to drive it pulls like a train in every gear, good handling comfy Safe & reliable, I am only 25 & people say to me why do you drive a granddads car but I assure you there faces sharp change when they see & here it go :smile:

Before I moved over to Volvo I was into jap crap, had an impreza with 340bhp & spent thousands on it, blew the engine up twice must say I would rather the Volvo any day!

Love that car, remember seeing it on expolicecar.com and thinking "what's up with that then?" little did I know...:(

[s_cowen]

if you ever fancy giving the body work the once over im happy to help. getting what i think are good results now. check out the detailing section

Thanks mate, could do with a good detail.

[s_cowen]

Nice car. Shame they never bothered to fit a new DMF when they fitted the new clutch thou!! :ashamed::slap:. May aswell not bothered. A new DMF with the new clutch would have made a huge difference. Instead of 100k of reliability it will be a question of 'when to change the DMF'....and while your there chuck ANOTHER clutch in too!!

Didn't notice that, why would you go to all the bother of changing a clutch & not the flywheel, some people are bafoons, Trying to save money but will end up paying more in the long run!

Theres a few on Auto-trader & there not to far from you either.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/postcode/ne244hw/radius/1500/keywords/s60r/sort/default/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew

[M-R-P]

Didn't notice that, why would you go to all the bother of changing a clutch & not the flywheel, some people are bafoons, Trying to save money but will end up paying more in the long run!

From experience, finding a dmf under £500 is not easy, so If you're repairing a performance car on a budget... Luckily, I got one for 350 (ish) and a good thing too - the springs were nothing short of powder on mine. So if the guy changing the clutch on the R tried the flywheel and felt no travel, they could be forgiven for thinking it's ok.

[graemewelch]

just give me a shout if ever fancy it. got ost the stuff to correct the body work. mght need a few pads as mine are wearing out fast. theres a guy trying to sort a northeast meet if you fancy it

[Hoppsym]

Cheers Graeme, that's nice Cowan and a nice price to, seen them ones on trader liked those 2 black ones but the wife was like its no different to the d5 we gave to me dad, what do you think of the green on 13 miles away, is sharkys an early one or a late one ie o3 or o5 cheers

[Harvey]

is sharkys an early one or a late one ie o3 or o5 cheers
It's a 2005 on year trim on bumper is body colour not black.

[Hoppsym]

Ok thanks, must be like hens teeth in that colour, does anyone no anything about the 2 blue ones that's on ebay

[volvokid]

It's a 2005 on year trim on bumper is body colour not black.

And it will have a slightly nicer interior

[Jimmie]

Didn't notice that, why would you go to all the bother of changing a clutch & not the flywheel, some people are bafoons, Trying to save money but will end up paying more in the long run!

I must be a buffoon then!!
Might be a perfectly good reason why the flywheel was not changed.

[s_cowen]

I must be a buffoon then!!
Might be a perfectly good reason why the flywheel was not changed.

Yeh true. :smile:

[Hoppsym]

What question do I need to be asking if I'm enquiring about one

[Hoppsym]

Well after all the debating what to buy I went and viewed a 09 s60 t5 today but didn't take my fancy so rang after a 07 d5 went and viewed it and couldn't pick any faults with it bodywork and paintwork was cleaner than my 59 plate insignia what I've owned from new, so I bought it, I know it's not a r or a t5 but had a change in circumstances and needed a car soon as.