Ford s-max

[T5frankie]

just had a bit of a burn up with one of these thought i was gonna blow him away wasnt until 3 figures (on a private road) that i started to leave him for dead very surprised actually, wonder what model it was

[p fandango]

they do one with a 217bhp Crocus ST engine

[T5frankie]

they do one with a 217bhp Crocus ST engine

really? would explain alot though after about 90-100 i totally left him and he was trying

[T5frankie]

they even do a 2.0 litre with 203bhp

[local-looney]

lol...but which one will last longer......

[p fandango]

1.8 TDCi 125 PS, 5 Speed Manual (123 hp)
1.8 TDCi 125 PS, 6 Speed Manual (123 hp)
2.0 TDCi 140 PS, 6 Speed Manual (143 hp)
2.0 145 PS, 5 Speed Manual (138 hp)
2.0 145 Flex Fuel, 5 Speed Manual (128 hp)
2.2 TDCi 175 PS, 6 Speed Manual (173 hp)
2.3 161 PS, 6 Speed Automatic (158 hp)
2.5 220 PS, 6 Speed Manual (217 hp)(shared with the Ford Focus ST)

LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_S-Max#Powertrain)

[local-looney]

1.8 TDCi 125 PS, 5 Speed Manual (123 hp)
1.8 TDCi 125 PS, 6 Speed Manual (123 hp)
2.0 TDCi 140 PS, 6 Speed Manual (143 hp)
2.0 145 PS, 5 Speed Manual (138 hp)
2.0 145 Flex Fuel, 5 Speed Manual (128 hp)
2.2 TDCi 175 PS, 6 Speed Manual (173 hp)
2.3 161 PS, 6 Speed Automatic (158 hp)
2.5 220 PS, 6 Speed Manual (217 hp)(shared with the Ford Focus ST)

LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_S-Max#Powertrain)

blimey,are you a motoring oracle? lol

[p fandango]

blimey,are you a motoring oracle? lol
wikipedia lol

[T5frankie]

the new one has 240bhp and thats what it was and its only a 2.0 litre

http://www.buyyourcar.co.uk/car-data/ford/s-max/2010-2012/mpv/20-ecoboost-240-titanium-x-sport-5dr-powershift/id/46115

[t5_monkey]

the new 2.0T has 237bhp too

Doesn't bode well for York Frankie :D

[T5frankie]

quite a weapon if remapped then? it was my first un out after al my boosting issues and actuator set right with my new remap and its like a missile now

[local-looney]

wikipedia lol

cheat!! lol

[t5_monkey]

remap on the 237 is a claimed 270 but it'll be more like 250-260

They are fairly heavy too - about 1600kg IIRC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JmX-uVHxKM

[p fandango]

remap on the 237 is a claimed 270 but it'll be more like 250-260
i'm sceptical about F*rd getting 237bhp from a 2.0litre, let alone any more lol

[T5frankie]

fast as hell for a bus maybe a zafira vxr beater?

[stribo]

i'm sceptical about F*rd getting 237bhp from a 2.0litre, let alone any more lol

The Ford Ecoboost 1.0L engine produces up to 125 PS (123 BHP) so 237 from 2.0L shouldn't be a problem.

[LiamT4]

oh dear, so a 1.8 diesel s-max kept up with you. :hilarious

[T5frankie]

oh dear, so a 1.8 diesel s-max kept up with you. :hilarious

yeah probably and when my 2.3 beats your 4.4 on sunday you won't be laughing then pmsl

[LiamT4]

yeah probably and when my 2.3 beats your 4.4 on sunday you won't be laughing then pmsl

ok ;)

[t5 pete]

I use a new 2.0 tdi s max quite a few times and its really powerful even at motor way speeds it picks up like mad

[T5frankie]

ok ;)

cars going well now although ive been running around at 6 psi for a month so anything now feels quick lol

[LiamT4]

cars going well now although ive been running around at 6 psi for a month so anything now feels quick lol

Seriously, i think you'll have to beat andys fastest time for an auto to beat me, think i'll be in the mid 14s.

So if you can manage to beat 14.4, then you'll beat me.

[merc85]

Liam could be right if these stats are.

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/HTML/bmw_540i_sport_e39.html

[T5frankie]

Seriously, i think you'll have to beat andys fastest time for an auto to beat me, think i'll be in the mid 14s.

So if you can manage to beat 14.4, then you'll beat me.

Easy mate lol,

[Kingsford G]

fast as hell for a bus maybe a zafira vxr beater?

Still I`d rather push a volvo than drive one of those even wiv my bad back lol

[LiamT4]

Liam could be right if these stats are.

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/HTML/bmw_540i_sport_e39.html

I'd be over the moon with a 14 flat, but i doubt its that quick, its just too damn heavy.

From what i'v read of people that have done it, standard e39 540s are mid 14s. Some say they can do low 14s, but who knows...... guess we'll find out sunday. :rally_dri

I have to point out again, as mine is the vanos 4.4 it has 325lb/ft, not 310. That extra 15lb/ft makes all the difference. lol

[stribo]

Well, at least our R should keep up with your 540:

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/HTML/volvo_s60r_v70r.html

[dalhousie2008]

The Ford Ecoboost 1.0L engine produces up to 125 PS (123 BHP) so 237 from 2.0L shouldn't be a problem.

In laws pick up there new 1.0 turbo focus thing soon. So I'll see what it goes like for a 1 litre

[stribo]

In laws pick up there new 1.0 turbo focus thing soon. So I'll see what it goes like for a 1 litre

I reckon it'll be horrible off boost, the R's bad enough, and that's got 2 1/2 times the cc.

[t5_monkey]

the 1.0L has had amazing reviews as a total game changer

Mainly cause it has so little lag.

As for the 540 - 14.0@101.7 - in ideal conditions.

Bear in mind a STOCK S40 T5 gets 15 flat at 98mph under ideal test conditions!

[T5frankie]

Those figures for the bmw are for manuals

[LiamT4]

Well, at least our R should keep up with your 540:

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/HTML/volvo_s60r_v70r.html

I thought the s60r would be quicker to be honest.


the 1.0L has had amazing reviews as a total game changer

Mainly cause it has so little lag.

As for the 540 - 14.0@101.7 - in ideal conditions.

Bear in mind a STOCK S40 T5 gets 15 flat at 98mph under ideal test conditions!

1 second is a long time on the 1/4mile. ;)

Actually i find this funny, noone seemed interested in my fat german car before. But now someones posted something that says it may be able to do the 1/4 mile in 14 flat, people seem to be more interested. lol

Mid 14s is what i think it'll do. 1710kg is too heavy for it to do any better.

[T5frankie]

I thought the s60r would be quicker to be honest.



1 second is a long time on the 1/4mile. ;)

Actually i find this funny, noone seemed interested in my fat german car before. But now someones posted something that says it may be able to do the 1/4 mile in 14 flat, people seem to be more interested. lol

Mid 14s is what i think it'll do. 1710kg is too heavy for it to do any better.

my car has same power but lighter mmm interesting

[LiamT4]

my car has same power but lighter mmm interesting

I have shorter gear ratios and a better power curve.

You going to wreck you box by powerstarting?

[t5_monkey]

1/4 will always heavily favour RWD cars - do the rolling GPS 30-130 run and things could be very different.

[T5frankie]

I have shorter gear ratios and a better power curve.

You going to wreck you box by powerstarting?

may start at 1500rpms lol

[t5_monkey]

Frankie it's usually smarter to gloat AFTER you've beaten someone.

Not before

Otherwise we may have to change your Username to : oneportionofhumlblepiewitheggonfacefordesert !!

[T5frankie]

Frankie it's usually smarter to gloat AFTER you've beaten someone.

Not before

Otherwise we may have to change your Username to : oneportionofhumlblepiewitheggonfacefordesert !!

just a laugh my mapped t5-r only got 15.5 lol and even when i put an mbc on just for a couple of runs i could only get 15.1

[t5_monkey]

just a laugh my mapped t5-r only got 15.5 lol and even when i put an mbc on just for a couple of runs i could only get 15.1

oh so you're expecting to NOT beat the 540 ? :)

[LiamT4]

1/4 will always heavily favour RWD cars - do the rolling GPS 30-130 run and things could be very different.

I'd love a 30-130 run against a 4spd auto. lol

they tend to slow down a bit once past 100mph, but frakie does have a 19t so should be a lot better than the normal ones at those speeds.

[T5frankie]

oh so you're expecting to NOT beat the 540 ? :)

your car is never as fast as you think it is on the 1/4 mile lol

[p fandango]

i find this funny, noone seemed interested in my fat german car before
if it makes you feel any better, i'm still not interested in it ;)

[LiamT4]

oh so you're expecting to NOT beat the 540 ? :)

who knows whats gonna happen, but the banter is all part of the fun. lol

[LiamT4]

if it makes you feel any better, i'm still not interested in it ;)

I could have a supercharged M5 and you wouldn't be interested!;)
Not a fan of ze german cars are you lol

[T5frankie]

at least i'll have the best looking car..........again pmsl.

[Jamest5r]

at least i'll have the best looking car..........again pmsl.

I think not :)

[T5frankie]

I think not :)

why who's is better? pmsl

[p fandango]

I could have a supercharged M5 and you wouldn't be interested!;)
Not a fan of ze german cars are you lol
correct sir :)

[stribo]

I thought the s60r would be quicker to be honest.



1 second is a long time on the 1/4mile. ;)

Actually i find this funny, noone seemed interested in my fat german car before. But now someones posted something that says it may be able to do the 1/4 mile in 14 flat, people seem to be more interested. lol

Mid 14s is what i think it'll do. 1710kg is too heavy for it to do any better.

TBH it is a heavy old hector, and launching a AWD car isn't that easy, as if you don't get it just right, it's just going to bog, and once it's off boost, it's game over.

[stribo]

why who's is better? pmsl
Our's :banana:

[T5frankie]

TBH it is a heavy old hector, and launching a AWD car isn't that easy, as if you don't get it just right, it's just going to bog, and once it's off boost, it's game over.

richard has got a 13.3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnr0lAOztHk&list=FLn3Ddx_wFUM24qD8Yy9O2yQ&index=42&feature=plpp_video

[stribo]

who knows whats gonna happen, but the banter is all part of the fun. lol

I love the banter, unfortunately Ford Cougar owners don't, after being the fastest at 0-60 for 3 years running (and beating ST200 engined cars) they decided they didn't want to play anymore, and banned me (along with other reasons) from their forum. I'm glad to see people up for it, but I'm not used to losing, so I may sulk if I do. :cussing:

[T5frankie]

I love the banter, unfortunately Ford Cougar owners don't, after being the fastest at 0-60 for 3 years running (and beating ST200 engined cars) they decided they didn't want to play anymore, and banned me (along with other reasons) from their forum. I'm glad to see people up for it, but I'm not used to losing, so I may sulk if I do. :cussing:

to be fair cougars are slow lol and you will get beaten even by fwd 850's lol

[stribo]

to be fair cougars are slow lol and you will get beaten even by fwd 850's lol

I don't dispute that mate, but having a 0-60 of 6.72 seconds, mine's not an average Cougar. ;)

[T5frankie]

I don't dispute that mate, but having a 0-60 of 6.72 seconds, mine's not an average Cougar. ;)

a maxed out cougar and you can batter it in your standard volvo lol

[stribo]

richard has got a 13.3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnr0lAOztHk&list=FLn3Ddx_wFUM24qD8Yy9O2yQ&index=42&feature=plpp_video

I love that, he launched it perfectly. TBH I'm not going after Richard's time, he has more power. It'll be my first time doing the 1/4 mile, let alone in the Volvo, just want to see what I can do.

[stribo]

a maxed out cougar and you can batter it in your standard volvo lol

Very true mate, but it's still quick for a Cougar, and it cost a lot less than our Volvo. ;)

[T5frankie]

Very true mate, but it's still quick for a Cougar, and it cost a lot less than our Volvo. ;)

i bet its slow 60-100 though, i used to have a rare rs kitted mondeo 24v ghia hatchback in blue and it was lovely i loved it at the time

[LiamT4]

TBH it is a heavy old hector, and launching a AWD car isn't that easy, as if you don't get it just right, it's just going to bog, and once it's off boost, it's game over.

They are heavy, but you won't have the heaviest car there...... i will. lol

Unless theres a v70r geartronic going, think they are slightly heavier.

[T5frankie]

Very true mate, but it's still quick for a Cougar, and it cost a lot less than our Volvo. ;)

is your car standard then?

[merc85]

richard has got a 13.3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnr0lAOztHk&list=FLn3Ddx_wFUM24qD8Yy9O2yQ&index=42&feature=plpp_video

Thats a damm fine take off lol luv it

[T5frankie]

Thats a damm fine take off lol luv it

you wanna get your asre up to york mate and meet everyone lol

[merc85]

you wanna get your asre up to york mate and meet everyone lol

I will once i get me box fitted, and get some practice at north weald lol

[Jamest5r]

richard has got a 13.3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnr0lAOztHk&list=FLn3Ddx_wFUM24qD8Yy9O2yQ&index=42&feature=plpp_video

I beat him in a "slow" race over the line but lost by 0.1sec terminal, got to get your start right cos once the 850's are rolling they will catch you :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17liIETLBUs&feature=g-user-u

[LiamT4]

I will once i get me box fitted, and get some practice at north weald lol

I might be able to get to that one, got a few things coming up over the next few weeks, but its possible.

[merc85]

I might be able to get to that one, got a few things coming up over the next few weeks, but its possible.

Be good if you did buddy, Shame you wont be a bringing s70r tho.... damm that looked a clean motor.

[T5frankie]

I will once i get me box fitted, and get some practice at north weald lol

will you? its only once a year lol

[Jamest5r]

Just for Smithy as i see you on line get back to work lazy git :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2K7Ab9oS7g&feature=g-user-u

[T5frankie]

as were are putting videos up

so will v70r's lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr3ogbc9Kag&list=UUn3Ddx_wFUM24qD8Yy9O2yQ&index=41&feature=plpp_video

[LiamT4]

Be good if you did buddy, Shame you wont be a bringing s70r tho.... damm that looked a clean motor.

It was a lovely looking car, it won the show and shine at york last year. I do miss the old girl, but i'm enjoying the 540. Similar type of cars, but very different at the same time.

The s70r should be going to york on sunday, with its new owner.

[stribo]

i bet its slow 60-100 though, i used to have a rare rs kitted mondeo 24v ghia hatchback in blue and it was lovely i loved it at the time
Compared to a turbocharged Volvo, then probably.


is your car standard then?

Which one, the Volvo's standard apart from a K&N filter.

[t5_monkey]

I could have a supercharged M5 and you wouldn't be interested!;)
Not a fan of ze german cars are you lol

I'd like to point out my Grandad helped design the Merlin engine.

If you want to suck on German sausage you go right ahead! I'm democracy side up here!!

and as for those 1/4 mile times - how stick is that drag strip? I got 14.77 with a feeble 228 whp :)

[merc85]

will you? its only once a year lol

??? gona be next year then right lol

[LiamT4]

I'd like to point out my Grandad helped design the Merlin engine.

If you want to suck on German sausage you go right ahead! I'm democracy side up here!!

and as for those 1/4 mile times - how stick is that drag strip? I got 14.77 with a feeble 228 whp :)

I haven't got much more than that, its my torque thats good. Lots of it right through the revs. :D


??? gona be next year then right lol

We'll be going to shakespeare raceway a few times over the summer, often get a good turnout there.

[smithy]

Just for Smithy as i see you on line get back to work lazy git :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2K7Ab9oS7g&feature=g-user-u

Make the best of it mate and Frankie will put his vid up in abit all I have to say is well come serious over fueling on both vids . But that problem as gone now now I can map the car

[T5Tom]

Talking about weight how much does an 850 manual actually weigh? Power/weight obviously makes a huge difference! That said is bhp per tonne not a more accurate way of how quick your car is?

[merc85]

Standard Dry weight 1410kg i think