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JUDGENINJA
Thursday 16th February 2012, 00:04
Simple question really, does anyone know if fitting instructions should come with a set of FK coil overs or atleast an explode view of the assembly? The FK website is pretty rubbish.

I think that the fitting is fine, but I was aware that I needed 2003-04 suspension tops. I assumed it was fronts that I needed, but the assembly on the front looks OK it is the rears that seem odd?

lozccw
Thursday 16th February 2012, 22:35
I have the FK coilovers on mine, They do not come with any form of instructions (unfortunately)

For the fronts you will need phase 2 top mounts (assuming they are going onto your yellow v40 I think they should already be the correct front mounts)
If you are going really low you will probably need the shorter phase1 drop links tho.

at the rear (which is what confused me for a long time) you need to retain and fit the top 'cup' (which I initially discarded).
This fits on top of the silly little washer thing, before the main rubber top mount
part number 30870529 (the pair cost me £6)

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/Misc-Pics/IMG_20120216_222618.jpg

JUDGENINJA
Friday 17th February 2012, 01:47
Don't worry I figured it out this evening... I hadn't removed the spring seats from the top mount.. I've taken photos to help others.

lozccw
Friday 17th February 2012, 20:36
Any chance you could post the pics, just so that I can double check mine are correct? Cheers!

JUDGENINJA
Saturday 18th February 2012, 18:51
OK No Problem... This is what I started with:

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_0847.jpg

I can Fly!!!
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1937.jpg

....I'll put the assembly up in a few moments..

JUDGENINJA
Saturday 18th February 2012, 19:02
1. I Started with this:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1899.jpg

2. Disassembled:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1901.jpg

3. These are the bits I needed:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1897.jpg
(I did cheat and use new parts)

4. This is the top assembly used:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1903.jpg

5. The top mount close up:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1905.jpg

6. I wasn't sure where to start, so I tighened one leg up to somewhere in the middle and marked a square rule, then copied it to the second leg.
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1909.jpg

7. The finished assembly:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1907.jpg

So I just need to fit them...

JUDGENINJA
Saturday 18th February 2012, 19:13
1. I started with this:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1923.jpg

2. I disassembled the top mount:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1925.jpg
This is what I'd got wrong. I was trying to re-use all of it...Throw away the rubber spring seat.

3. This is what I actually needed:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1927.jpg

4. So using the top assembly I started to put things back together:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1929.jpg

5. And now it is put back together and bolt up:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1931.jpg

6. Following the same principal as the front measured and guessed somewhere in the middle.
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1933.jpg

JUDGENINJA
Saturday 18th February 2012, 19:19
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1915.jpg

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1911.jpg

The only thing that I needed to modify was I needed to file the brake pipe holder as it wasn't the right size..

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1913.jpg

JUDGENINJA
Saturday 18th February 2012, 19:21
This is the first setting....

It only looks about 20mm drop at present, but that I'lm going to allow the car to settle for a few days before I start adjusting and leveling out.

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1939.jpg

JUDGENINJA
Monday 11th June 2012, 01:08
So anyone who has met the Yellow V40 Since I swapped over to FK's wil have heard my Clunking sound everytime I turn the wheel. I had got used to it and wasn't that bothered, however whilst Gary (SiamBlue) was visiting we had a interesting discovery, which may assist people in the future who have just bought FK's whilst they are dirt cheap.....(git's mine were £250)..


So first post is SiamBlue's fitting

So today SiamBlue and I had a mini meet at my house to fit his FK's. 3.5 Hours job done!!.

The fitting was exactly the same as above and following a bit of advice from other we manufactured a couple of rubber pads, just to create a bit of friction to reduce the clunking sound...

This is what we made from a piece of innertube:

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/2b357d81.jpg

For Gary's car I made the inner cut out slightly narrower to ensure it didn't move too much, but it turned out not to be that important..

Once fitted it looked like this..(the more observant will quickly realise that this is a pic of my suspension without the rubber bushes not Gary's, but you get the drift).

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/Coil%20over%20-%20VPCUK/IMG_1907.jpg

So as described above I don't need to repeat all of the rubbish above, and Siamblue's car:

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/92ae3bf9.jpg

Just taken off the stands.. still looked good
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/8f2f6e52.jpg

following a run....finished product.
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/614e8fec.jpg

We took the car for a 8mile drive...it was nice. Shorter travel does mean a bit of bottoming out, but it seemed a good balance of height vs. stiffness... so I guess it was job done.... one happy customer!!. (I earnt a new steering wheel for the V70...)

SO whay was Gary's quiet and mine wasn't it was time to find out...

So for the interesting discovery...

The weather was just holding out, so we decided to unbolt my suspension completely to assess if we could see anything....

Following dismantling we found this on the suspension top:

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/28863680.jpg
If you look closely you can see a small amount of scoring on the angled section of the top mount which wasn't supposed to be there??

Now we are talking millimetres but now to play spot the difference:

THIS IS BAD..
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/9f0adaea.jpg

THIS IS GOOD..
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/c8087b8d.jpg

We are talking fractions of a millimetre difference, but I hope you can see the minute gap which made all the difference.

We bolted mine back up and guess what... Silence!! All the difference is is a small white cover that sits on the Volvo original suspension top plastic bearing.

SO IF YOU BUY NEW... REMEMBER TO SAVE THE PLASTIC BEARING(or atleast the white plastic lid from the old units)..

I hope this helps people explain just what the issues were and we all have nice quiet cars in the future..

THE RESULTS..

It's OVLOV love...

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/8b71ab4a.jpg

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/9fe19e5c.jpg

THE REAL STAR OF THE DAY...This little baby..

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/judgeninja/VPCUK/087e574b.jpg

got to be the one of Gary's best Ebay purchase for a while...

Chad
Monday 11th June 2012, 07:47
nice one!!

Both look better with a drop.!!

JUDGENINJA
Monday 11th June 2012, 07:54
I just hope it helps, as I heard of a member taking the car to multiple mechanics for the same issue and not being able to solve it.

Maybe the more adventurous would consider adding a chamfer to the top spring mount with a file anyway as the tolerances were minute. This would probably negate the need for the rubber, which maybe adding a tiny bit of flexibility which you don't want on a race car.

antz
Monday 11th June 2012, 12:37
Thanks for the advice! Ill be following this when I fit my coilovers so its good to know and have pictures. :)

Never changed struts before so Im a bit nervous as how to do it....or weather to let my garage do it haha

JUDGENINJA
Monday 11th June 2012, 14:34
Suspension is easy to do..
Fronts
3 x bolts top
2 x bolts bottom
1 x drop link nut (can be a pain, so I'd buy new)

Rears
2 x bolts top
2x bolts bottom (need a big lever to lift the leg out)

Then legs can be swapped round.

merc85
Monday 11th June 2012, 14:34
Good write up, Both cars looking Mint

antz
Monday 11th June 2012, 16:18
Suspension is easy to do..
Fronts
3 x bolts top
2 x bolts bottom
1 x drop link nut (can be a pain, so I'd buy new)

Rears
2 x bolts top
2x bolts bottom (need a big lever to lift the leg out)

Then legs can be swapped round.

Cheers mate. I had new front top mounts fitted about 3 months ago so it should all come apart easily enough.

Ive never dealt with suspension before and the idea of a spring going PING into my face scares me even though I do have spring clamps.

Do I need to get it all aligned up again afterwards or will it still be OK?

siamblue
Monday 11th June 2012, 16:18
As i said to Wayne yesterday,it helped having 2 sets of correct tools,plus 2 DIY mechanics knowing what they were doing,as we worrked opposite each other and it went well,also i had a spare set of front struts already disassmembled so it went a bit easier,if your top mount bush has come away from the mount,then you will struggle getting the strut apart,like we did on one of the spare struts for Waynes car.
I didn't want to go too low,i just wanted the back to sit near to the top of the tyre and the front a inch higher than the rears,the car is amazing,on high speed bends it just goes round on rails and the stability and speed combined in the bends is quite amazing over standard.

Gary

PS I am not sure how low Wayne went on my struts he will be able to tell you the measurements as he adjusted them.

pompeyphil
Monday 11th June 2012, 16:21
DH has already made his up ready to bolt on his 850. But again pising down in pompey

siamblue
Monday 11th June 2012, 16:29
DH has already made his up ready to bolt on his 850. But again pising down in pompey

It was raining in Guildford yesterday,nothing stopped us lol,funny thing is would we have done the same thing if the missus had wanted something done, hehe.

claymore
Monday 11th June 2012, 16:41
Great write up lads, how do you find the ride now?

JUDGENINJA
Monday 11th June 2012, 18:54
Good write up, Both cars looking Mint

Mine's far from mint... Gary's cleaned the inside of his wheels so he wins on the anal front..

JUDGENINJA
Monday 11th June 2012, 19:12
Cheers mate. I had new front top mounts fitted about 3 months ago so it should all come apart easily enough.

Ive never dealt with suspension before and the idea of a spring going PING into my face scares me even though I do have spring clamps.

Do I need to get it all aligned up again afterwards or will it still be OK?

Getting a good step spanner would be the only thing we could have done for the top mount. I keep planning to buy some, but they need to have a quite deep drop, anyone got any suggestions for a generic tool set for suspension legs?

Our fit ment is a bit of a F/O tight method using an imperial set.

Of course spring compressors really are needed and a bit of a sensible head will keep you safe.

The theory is that you do change Camber as ride gets lower. Steering geometry won't change much at all, but you could always get them checked.

Setting the legs

To be honest each suspension leg will have slightly different characteristics so declaring points of measure. For Gary's car I started at a slight higher point:
Fronts - I exposed about 70mm of thread below the lower bolt
Rears - I exposed about 100mm of thread below the lower bolt.

That'll give you a starts...

Then once fitted and run for 10 miles or so we measured the gap using a plum line down the centre of the wheel to the wheel arch.

Gary's ended up within 1-2mm of each other.

dalhousie2008
Monday 11th June 2012, 19:13
i got mine ready today and ill be fitting tomorrow, a little bit different from yours, but looks an easy fit now.

JUDGENINJA
Monday 11th June 2012, 19:32
Great write up lads, how do you find the ride now?

Mine have been on for a while, my escapades in Cadwell were with them and apart from my excursions (of course video'd) is testimaent that they did well.

the oxidisation on the legs was quite evident that certainly warrants wax oil, paint or other.

claymore
Monday 11th June 2012, 19:41
I find the ride quite choppy on the road, but once it's on track it's great.

lozccw
Monday 11th June 2012, 21:06
We bolted mine back up and guess what... Silence!! All the difference is is a small white cover that sits on the Volvo original suspension top plastic bearing.

SO IF YOU BUY NEW... REMEMBER TO SAVE THE PLASTIC BEARING(or atleast the white plastic lid from the old units)..

Or if you lose the part, or want to buy new the part number is: 30616677

Part 9 on the schematic below:

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/2012-06-11--1339448147_1280x800_scrot.png

From the looks of the pictures/description this part really does make ALL the difference, as I fitted new 'pressure rings' when I installed mine and they have been silent from the start!
From memory I think they were about £6-7 each

JUDGENINJA
Monday 11th June 2012, 22:03
That's a really good addition thanks.. If I remember I'll take a photo from a spare leg o finish this off nicely... Does your software list the tools needed for the top nut and shaft?

Could be worthy addition as I have the 850/V70 tools
Centre socket to hold the leg tip
Nut socket

lozccw
Monday 11th June 2012, 22:28
Does your software list the tools needed for the top nut and shaft?

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/2012-06-11--1339453415_1280x800_scrot.png

Which references these two tools:

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/2012-06-11--1339453403_1280x800_scrot.png

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/2012-06-11--1339453385_1280x800_scrot.png

JUDGENINJA
Monday 11th June 2012, 22:58
Thanks..

merc85
Monday 11th June 2012, 23:32
helpful pic's

dalhousie2008
Monday 11th June 2012, 23:44
Ive copper slipped mine to try and keep oxidisationat bay, fingers crossed, mat wax oil at later date when fitting new big brakes

Vinny
Friday 15th June 2012, 22:51
Im really interested in these coilovers but have no idea what new parts i would need.
I really prefer replacing all the old ones with new, especially all the rubber or plastic parts.

I have a 00MY S40 T4. with lots of banging and danging from the front suspension so probably would need to replace alot of stuff.
Just dropped a new engine into my baby and lots and lots of other stuff replaced either.
So its time for new suspension, its a P1 btw, so i understand i need to change a couple thing in the mounts and drop links etc.

Could anyone who did this swap point out which exect parts i need?
Link to front suspension parts:
http://www.swedishautoparts.com/S40/Volvo-S40-suspension-front.html
(Im not sure i would order these from this perticular site so just name the part numbers please, thank you)

Link to rear suspension parts:
http://www.swedishautoparts.com/S40/Volvo-S40-suspension-rear.html

Thanks guys, youre the best. :)

siamblue
Saturday 16th June 2012, 19:12
Great write up lads, how do you find the ride now?

I have done about 150 miles on mine now,they are a lot nicer now,they seem to have bedded in,but they still are a bit bangy on big bumps/holes,but i try to avoid the them in the road.

JUDGENINJA
Saturday 16th June 2012, 19:42
Front- If you are fitting new and not dismantling the old ones.
Droplinks(longer versions from 2000-04), top Cap, plastic bearing and Cap(see above for the part I had missed.

Rears - Just a new top cap.

Remember you are going to be throwing away all the rubber stuff

lozccw
Sunday 17th June 2012, 23:46
To convert your setup from P1 to P2 you will need

Front:
Top mount-
AUTO-30616824
MAN-30652259

Bearing cap-
30616677

Bearing ring-
30616825

Roll bar link-
30884179

Obviously x2 for everything!
All the rest of the components are the same.

The rears are the same (P1/P2), but if you want to replace all of the rubber/perishable parts on the rear (excluding roll bar links)

Upper bush-
30870376

Mid bush S40-
30874887
Mid bush V40-
30865276

Hope it helps!

Vinny
Thursday 21st June 2012, 20:18
Helped me very much!
Alot easier with part numbers then with just the names of the parts.

Probably will get it done as soon as i get my very wierd problem sorted out (see new thread i posted today).

Thank you.

T4Rick
Friday 29th June 2012, 21:43
Whats the actual difference between the phase 1 and phase 2 strut tops?

lozccw
Friday 29th June 2012, 22:07
Whats the actual difference between the phase 1 and phase 2 strut tops?



http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/4d1e_2.jpg

P1 - bearing is small and molded-in to the top mount, sits directly around the strut shaft within the large raised middle portion.

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/L3030140921OES.jpg

P2 - Bearing is a separate component, and sits underneath the top mount in the large recess.

cjmcgrath
Friday 3rd August 2012, 22:15
hi there i have fitted my coilover on my 03 V40 1.9D and ive just got a few wee questions:
1: when i reverse i seem to get a strange noise coming from the front end as if something i tangled round something but i never had this problem prior to fitting my coilovers so decided they must be the problem the abs wire and brake hose are clear and have a free range of movement so .... :S

2: my rear coilovers are really clunky ive not not the cups fitted that are mentioned at the start of the thread but i now have a set of them and reading through the thread and i cant quite figure out excatly where on the strut it goes so i was wondering if someone will have a photo of them fitted on someones. ive looked on vida but still cant figure out the conversion.

all input would be much appreciated planning on doing it in the next couple of days so a quick responce would be excellent. :D

many thanks folks

JUDGENINJA
Saturday 4th August 2012, 09:51
1. Is it a constant sound? Or just a clunk?

2. How far did to wind the thread? Because these do not have any adjust ment other than height you may have not wound them up high enough.. Unfortunately they will not sit flush with the wheel arch with out some issues with the suspension bottoming out.

cjmcgrath
Monday 6th August 2012, 16:35
i seemed to have solved the noise from the front end i just lowered it an extra 10mm and all seems peachy. so dont need to worry about that anymore.
on the rear it was kinda clunky/rattly/wobbly noise as if something was free to move about. i have the coilovers off the rear as we speak and im trying to figure out where these volvo top cups are supposed to go cause when i fit them from the way you have previously described then ive not got enough thread to get the top nut on at all... so do the volvo cups replace the top cone thingy that comes with the coilovers?

i had the rears sat at 80mm from the bottom thread.

JUDGENINJA
Monday 6th August 2012, 18:08
My car is a 2001, but I didn't have those top caps to fit. Mine fitted pretty tightly with no rattle.

Maybe you've got interference somewhere in the setup causing you issues?

antz
Tuesday 7th August 2012, 09:06
Ive got a rattly/knocking noise on from the back end of mine but I didnt fit them, my dads mates classic car garage/bodyshop did and the car went through its MOT 2 days after fitting them so it must be alright and me just noticing things. Then again it could even be my dog guard rattling I just turn the radio up. Other than that its all gravy and I really like them.

T4Rick
Saturday 1st September 2012, 14:42
I purchase the Coil overs from a memeber from another forum ,ive fitted them which is fine but i have a knocking noise when i go over a bump on the passenger side rear

T4Rick
Saturday 1st September 2012, 15:08
Ive got a rattly/knocking noise on from the back end of mine but I didnt fit them, my dads mates classic car garage/bodyshop did and the car went through its MOT 2 days after fitting them so it must be alright and me just noticing things. Then again it could even be my dog guard rattling I just turn the radio up. Other than that its all gravy and I really like them.

Ive got the same problem on the passenger side rear shock Antz

T4Rick
Saturday 1st September 2012, 15:11
Here is the same problem

http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?54823-replacement-parts-for-FK-coilovers

lozccw
Saturday 1st September 2012, 19:05
When I first fitted mine I had a small rattle from the rear, after much messing around trying to figure out what it might be it turned out to be the rubber parts of the top mount.
Visually they appeared to be ok, but when changed the noise disappeared.
They are only a few pounds per side, so I would suggest starting by changing those.

T4Rick
Saturday 1st September 2012, 19:29
When I first fitted mine I had a small rattle from the rear, after much messing around trying to figure out what it might be it turned out to be the rubber parts of the top mount.
Visually they appeared to be ok, but when changed the noise disappeared.
They are only a few pounds per side, so I would suggest starting by changing those.

Hi mate thanks for the heads up which part is it though

lozccw
Saturday 1st September 2012, 19:43
Obviously the image is judgeninja's (I hope he doesn't mind me borrowing it).

The parts I replaced are in the red boxes in the image below:

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/reartopmount.jpg

T4Rick
Saturday 1st September 2012, 20:22
Obviously the image is judgeninja's (I hope he doesn't mind me borrowing it).

The parts I replaced are in the red boxes in the image below:

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/reartopmount.jpg

My phase 1 T4 top mounts should fit these aye?

lozccw
Saturday 1st September 2012, 20:31
Yeah, the rears are the same on both p1 and p2

T4Rick
Saturday 1st September 2012, 21:15
I hope it shuts it up lol.Ive read threads where people have tried alsorts and its still doing it

T4Rick
Saturday 15th September 2012, 14:35
Obviously the image is judgeninja's (I hope he doesn't mind me borrowing it).

The parts I replaced are in the red boxes in the image below:

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/reartopmount.jpg

Ive replaced these parts today and its still making the noise.Its like its missing some thing like that thick rubber insert that the normal spring would sit on for the rear

JUDGENINJA
Saturday 15th September 2012, 15:55
I wonder if you are wanting road quality suspension from this setup, but Unfortunately your fitting things almost metal to metal to stiffen everything up which should give greater feedback to the driver. It's all a compromise.
Also They are shorter, so the likelihood of the system bottoming out will be greater.

If it a loud bang/rattle when it shouldn't then the above below clamping force may have issues.
Where in the country are you, if you're south based, then you could always pop over for a comparison..

T4Rick
Saturday 15th September 2012, 19:39
I wonder if you are wanting road quality suspension from this setup, but Unfortunately your fitting things almost metal to metal to stiffen everything up which should give greater feedback to the driver. It's all a compromise.
Also They are shorter, so the likelihood of the system bottoming out will be greater.

If it a loud bang/rattle when it shouldn't then the above below clamping force may have issues.
Where in the country are you, if you're south based, then you could always pop over for a comparison..

Its more of a rattling noise when you go over a bump,its only on the rear passenger side as well.I just dont want any rattling thats all.Ive had the wheel off and when i move the shocker on the rear arm you can hear the clunk.Its defo not the shocker its self ive had it in pieces today

JUDGENINJA
Sunday 16th September 2012, 10:24
What year is yours?
Siamblue's rear suspension bushes were slightly different to mine, maybe this could be something to consider

PoLonY
Thursday 20th September 2012, 12:39
http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/4d1e_2.jpg

P1 - bearing is small and molded-in to the top mount, sits directly around the strut shaft within the large raised middle portion.

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/L3030140921OES.jpg

P2 - Bearing is a separate component, and sits underneath the top mount in the large recess.

I can see the visual difference but why exactly can't one use the ph1 top mounts again?

Getting a set of coilovers on monday and need to know why I need ph2 top mounts out of interest

JUDGENINJA
Thursday 20th September 2012, 20:52
It's probably simply that the bolt shaft maybe shorter?

lozccw
Friday 21st September 2012, 00:01
The image below is of a P1 front strut:
http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/S40-2000-Front-Suspension_zpsd8196924.jpg

And the image below is of a P2 front strut:
http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/Volvo-S40-2001-2004-Front-suspension_zpsccfa931d.jpg

as I'm sure you are aware front struts require a bearing between the spring and the top mount in order to allow the shock body to rotate without stressing and 'twanging' the springs when you turn the hubs to steer.

on the P1 (top image) the bearing is part number 9, and only about 50-60mm dia. the strut shaft which is about 15-20mm dia is designed to be a snug fit into the centre of the bearing, with an adaptor to increase to the dia of the spring.

on the P2 (bottom image) the bearing is part number 10 and approx 110mm dia, and is sandwiched between the spring adaptor ring and the top mount. the strut shaft which is about 25-30mm dia is designed to sit against the top mount.

Not sure how much sense all of that will make, if any?
basically although the chassis and hub mounting points are the same for both P1 and P2 cars, the front strut shafts, bearings etc are completely different and not cross compatible.
So when fitting the fk ak-streets (which are based on a P2 front strut) you will require the P2 top mounts also (when I converted my P1 I did offer up a P1 mount and it wouldn't even come close to fitting!)

PoLonY
Friday 21st September 2012, 13:41
thanks very much will source ph2 top mounts or adjustable top mounts then

Mark_V40T4
Saturday 22nd September 2012, 21:55
pfft get em wound down,

this was mine 2 years ago.. never a bang or a rattle.. a bit choppy to say the least but looked pretty darn sweet!

17092
17093

lozccw
Saturday 22nd September 2012, 22:20
This is how my P1 was sat when first fitted (lowest possible setting on front, 5mm thread remaining!. and on the rear to match, I think about 60mm thread remaining!)

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/Misc-Pics/IMG_20110911_141621.jpg

Tyre to arch gap! (Or lack of!!)

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/Misc-Pics/IMG_20110911_141600.jpg

And now fitted to my P2,but obviously raised up 30mm from the previous setting (I think 36mm thread front, 92mm thread rear)

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/Misc-Pics/IMAG0130_zpsf1c3617c.jpg

Mark_V40T4
Saturday 22nd September 2012, 22:26
right down then huh ;) think i had about the same gap!

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lozccw
Saturday 22nd September 2012, 22:48
The 17" arcadias definitely made yours look lower!

it was great fun for the 3 years I had it that low, but when I bought the P2 I decided that it was probably a smidge too low!

In those 3 yrs I managed to smash the insides of my oe cat to the point I had to replace it, scrape every bit of underseal off my frame rails, and loose the lower portion of my front bumper!
That being said It was all courtesy of my local speed bumps and not 'normal' roads, and I did still manage to get 300kg! of purple slate in the boot (with passengers) when we did the garden and all with no scrubbing on the rear lol!!

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/x40vol/Misc-Pics/SNC12226_zpsa3ba3a9d.jpg

T4Rick
Monday 24th September 2012, 22:14
What year is yours?
Siamblue's rear suspension bushes were slightly different to mine, maybe this could be something to consider
Mine is a 1999 model on a S plate.

lozccw
Monday 24th September 2012, 22:38
Mine is a 1999 model on a S plate.

A silly question maybe, but was your car lowered before fitting the coilovers?
I know you had no noise before fitting them but if you had std suspension originally, then all of the bushes will be 'sitting' differently now and if any of them are worn that may a possible cause of some noise?

Perhaps try taking the coilover out completely and re-tighten the remaining setup in place then manipulate the trailing arm to see if there is any noise from the bushes?

T4Rick
Monday 24th September 2012, 22:52
A silly question maybe, but was your car lowered before fitting the coilovers?
I know you had no noise before fitting them but if you had std suspension originally, then all of the bushes will be 'sitting' differently now and if any of them are worn that may a possible cause of some noise?

Perhaps try taking the coilover out completely and re-tighten the remaining setup in place then manipulate the trailing arm to see if there is any noise from the bushes?

I can feel the slack in the coil over,when one side was on the axle stand i could move the shocker up and down and i could feel give in it.The shocker its self isnt knackered.Its like there is something missing from the set up

lozccw
Monday 24th September 2012, 23:10
Could you post a complete or preferably dismantled pic of your setup showing which pieces you have and in what order?
do you have the silly little 10mm washer/spacer on the strut? (after the bump stop but before the main cone)

T4Rick
Wednesday 26th September 2012, 22:00
Could you post a complete or preferably dismantled pic of your setup showing which pieces you have and in what order?
do you have the silly little 10mm washer/spacer on the strut? (after the bump stop but before the main cone)

Hi i do have the washer,but what bump stop are you on about lol.i bought these used and assembled off another member and i only stripped down the coil over that was giving me issues and i dont recall seeing a bumpstop lol

T4Rick
Wednesday 26th September 2012, 22:01
right down then huh ;) think i had about the same gap!

17094

Now thats how it should be lol

lozccw
Wednesday 26th September 2012, 22:59
Hi i do have the washer,but what bump stop are you on about lol.i bought these used and assembled off another member and i only stripped down the coil over that was giving me issues and i dont recall seeing a bumpstop lol

Ok, If you completely dismantle the coilover you should have: over the strut shaft a plastic cap over the shaft seal, followed by a large plastic washer, then the rubber bump-stop with the dust boot over the top, followed by the 10mm washer.
Then on the outside, the adjuster, the smaller helper spring, followed by the large plastic spacer and the large main spring, then the final cone.
I have almost a full set of used spare parts for these coilovers if you do find that anything is missing.

CONDYBOY
Friday 12th October 2012, 17:22
remember having bother just fitting my eibach springs. the top mount needs to be aligned correctly or the bloody bearing pops out of the seat.

avfcs40
Saturday 24th November 2012, 22:48
Just had my FK coilovers fitted.
All seemed fine on the short drive home but i got some grind from the front coilovers when i turned left/right.
Will double check to see if the top plastic mount was fitted. (no. 10 in diagram a few pages back)
Other than that i think its too low so may raise it a little.

Cheers

PoLonY
Wednesday 19th December 2012, 13:21
thanks to all for the advice on the ph2 top shock mounts, finally got mine and fitted the TA technix coilovers!

used ph1 droplinks...

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa218/stratvw/20121216_105713.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa218/stratvw/20121216_105634.jpg

gonna be moving to 18" wheels soon, looking forward to it!!

teddy241091
Saturday 29th December 2012, 00:45
any one got some coilovers for sale?????? an loving the s40 above looks nice

PoLonY
Wednesday 9th January 2013, 06:32
looks better now lol

updated pics:

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa218/stratvw/20121222_133612.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa218/stratvw/20121222_152125.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa218/stratvw/20121222_152211.jpg

JUDGENINJA
Wednesday 9th January 2013, 07:46
Looks good!

V70 Graham
Wednesday 9th January 2013, 09:26
Yup, looks very good.

PoLonY
Wednesday 9th January 2013, 12:01
thanks guys

teddy241091
Tuesday 22nd January 2013, 22:09
20028 any one got any coilys or lowering springs really want need some see the arch gap lol an still got alot to get round to grill spoiler an tinting windows