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T5Tom
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 15:12
Due to my clutch being on its way out, my car might have to be sold as a scrapper or spares / repairs :( I have just been quoted over £600 for the job and I cant afford to pay this! It's such a shame as the car has so much potential and the engine has only done 118k its only a baby!

Also i don't have the space to break it myself, so it would have to go to one of you guys if someone fancied it?

I would definately buy another 850 or possibly a v70/c70 but it would have to be a t5 as ive had a taste of the power!

Al115
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 15:13
Isn't it cheaper to pay for the clutch and then have a car that you know is good, rather than dive in to a new/unknown one? Just a thought.

I live in fear of the day the clutch goes on my V70! Not cheap.

mitchyboy01
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 15:17
I'm sure someone on here will do it cheaper than that. Defo keep it mate!

Wobbly Dave
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 15:17
Does this mean you are going for Victor-y

Better the devil you know ;) or a well-loved ex-VPC model

shepbomb
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 15:17
Mate, I would just take the hit on the clutch... as im a testament to how much a t5 can cost if you get the wrong one... and it was the usual everything was working when i viewed it and took it out.. a couple of grand later.. and one angry wife..

T5Tom
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 15:29
I just can't afford over 600 notes at the moment, I know I can get a clutch for 150 but its the fitting I probably won't be able to do. I know with a good service the car will be a diamond!

If anyone can do it for much cheaper then they have the job :)

wegal
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 16:03
How big a job is this on the 850 ? Does the engine need to come out, or is it just dropping the gearbox ?

The last clutch I did ( not on a volvo ) wasnt that hard to do, quite a few bolts to undo, and it was time consuming, but on a scale of 1 - 10 for difficulty Id give it a 3.

If you going to break it anyway, why not just get some small ramps, drive the car up it, unbolt the gear box and drop a new clutch in ? Its a good days work or maybe even 2 if your not great with spanners, but you will get nowt for it by breaking it, and then you have to buy a new car... all in all I would expect that to end up costing you more than the £600 your quoted to fix it.

T5Tom
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 16:12
How big a job is this on the 850 ? Does the engine need to come out, or is it just dropping the gearbox ?

The last clutch I did ( not on a volvo ) wasnt that hard to do, quite a few bolts to undo, and it was time consuming, but on a scale of 1 - 10 for difficulty Id give it a 3.

If you going to break it anyway, why not just get some small ramps, drive the car up it, unbolt the gear box and drop a new clutch in ? Its a good days work or maybe even 2 if your not great with spanners, but you will get nowt for it by breaking it, and then you have to buy a new car... all in all I would expect that to end up costing you more than the £600 your quoted to fix it.

If it was that easy mate I'd be doing it right now, its a proper subframe off job... 5.7 hours for a proper mechanic with proper ramps and proper tools for the job!

bigrotch
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 16:28
Its not a nice job mate me and merc put 850r clutch in Myne 1 mnth ago.... There are a few peeps on here who fit them.. Niles - emlyn pos pm them mate.. Are u putting a standard clutch back in if so they are alot cheaper than the r clutch kit

T5Tom
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 16:34
It all depends on how much someone would want to fit it lol if it was cheap enough them i would fit an r clutch... How much did the r set you back mate?

wegal
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 16:39
If it was that easy mate I'd be doing it right now, its a proper subframe off job... 5.7 hours for a proper mechanic with proper ramps and proper tools for the job!

I was about right then.. 5.7 hours for a mech.... 2 days for the amatuer spanner worker.

T5Tom
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 17:03
I was about right then.. 5.7 hours for a mech.... 2 days for the amatuer spanner worker.

I wish my Mrs would let me spend a weekend on my car mate, got a 3 month old baby and i barely get to leave the house lol

I'll try and get in contact with a couple of people that have done them in the past. Anyone you can think that might fancy earning some reddies in the north / midlands ish?

cherry1809
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 17:09
If your not going to run too much power through it, The standard T5 clutch will be fine. I started the job on mine, And after half a day I was dropping the subframe ready for the gearbox to pop off (was all undone) Then ripped half the scabs off a new tattoo. So I swore a lot, Put it all back together and paid someone else to do it. Lol.

M-R-P
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 17:16
Lol!

I had a similar dilemma when my DIM went lala, 735 quid that we didnt have. When it boils down to cash, its better to take the hit and pay to get a car you know running than to throw 1000 at a car you don't.
The wife's cousin just bought a honda jazz, had it 2 days to find out that the prop shaft had been pretty much glued together with epoxy! bought from a private seller too :(

cherry1809
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 17:27
You might want to look into that. You still have the same rights as if a trader sold it. Sold as seen written on a bit of paper means nothing when it comes to the law on unsafe cars. ;)

T5Tom
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 17:39
If your not going to run too much power through it, The standard T5 clutch will be fine. I started the job on mine, And after half a day I was dropping the subframe ready for the gearbox to pop off (was all undone) Then ripped half the scabs off a new tattoo. So I swore a lot, Put it all back together and paid someone else to do it. Lol.

lol!

I hoping for 300bhp+ do you think it would be ok?

One of my mates has a pit in his garage so i might give it a go, seeing as I've never done a clutch before this certainly seems like a good challenging start... But ill probably end up paying someone to do it lol

bigrotch
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 18:06
Best get the r mate it's the torque u get aswell is a factor mate no point goin 300 bhp and have a sloppy new clutch....what mods u hope for to active the 300 bhp

Jamest5r
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 18:09
Ask Daza B mate, he's a Trader up your way might be able to sort you a good price on fitting.

daza-b
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 18:35
Ask Daza B mate, he's a Trader up your way might be able to sort you a good price on fitting.

cheers bud...what car is it?

T5Tom
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 18:37
At the moment I've got white Injectors, decat and an mbc (and a boost gauge so I've only turned it up a touch) but I've just got hold of another 15g to convert to a 19t hybrid, then when I come to fit that ill stick an rip kit on then a cheeky remap and i should see 300bhp i hope :) but first of all now I.need a clutch.... Bol**cks! Lol

I'll give a shout now mate thanks

cherry1809
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 18:59
Lol, You know it makes sense.

JUDGENINJA
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 19:10
Fix it, any alternative will be a down grade.

Where did you get the quote from?
The price is about right, but you may be able to negotiate a deal somewhere.

M-R-P
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 19:23
I know it seems like we're pushing the feller into keeping a possible money pit but i think I speak for the majority when i say it'll be a shame to see yet another fine car turned into dog food tins over a simple (if expensive) problem.
Get it sorted mate and it'll be one less thing to worry about for 100k or so. Besides, what would you rather carry your little one around in - the safest car in its class with a 600 quid clutch or a 600 quid corsa or fiesta that a large man could rip in half like a turkey leg;)

T5Tom
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 19:24
It was a mate of mine who is a vauxhall specialist, he didn't want to do it because he said it would bite him in the arse lol! He put me onto a company he uses, i forget the name but they wouldn't let me use my own part basically that's why it was 600 quid

T5Tom
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 20:00
I know it seems like we're pushing the feller into keeping a possible money pit but i think I speak for the majority when i say it'll be a shame to see yet another fine car turned into dog food tins over a simple (if expensive) problem.
Get it sorted mate and it'll be one less thing to worry about for 100k or so. Besides, what would you rather carry your little one around in - the safest car in its class with a 600 quid clutch or a 600 quid corsa or fiesta that a large man could rip in half like a turkey leg;)

I definately don't want to see it turned into a doner its too good! I'm gona have to do it for the good of Volvo lol!

I'm on it this week... It's getting done no questions!

M-R-P
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 20:10
I definately don't want to see it turned into a doner its too good! I'm gona have to do it for the good of Volvo lol!

I'm on it this week... It's getting done no questions!

Good man! You know it makes sense :) mines had a new DIM and 800 quid in parts so far and at 186k, on an 03 plate, shes worth every penny. ;)

daza-b
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 20:16
if ya want any help with it let me know :)

Al115
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 21:36
Just for interest I got a quote from Mr Clutch - they quoted £415 at their Manchester branch...

The quote for your Clutch is £415.99

Please note that the quote is based upon the vehicle details entered as follows. Please take care to ensure that the details match your vehicle, otherwise a different price may be applicable. If you are in any doubt please ring you local Mr Clutch Autocentre and speak to an adviser to confirm the price:

Registration: n380 fvs

Manufacturer: Volvo
Model & Variant: 800 Series 850 2.3 850 T5
Year: 1994-1997

which means, I think, that you should be able to get it done for much less than the £600 if you shop around?

Just a thought.

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 21:46
that price is for the clutch job, it may need a flywheel too, is it for an 850?

daza-b
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 21:46
yea 850

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 21:49
yea 850

may be lucky with the flywheel being ok then, mr clutch quoted £440 for a 2 piece clutch fitment

daza-b
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 21:54
i dunno lol just said id give a hand fitting it lol its the clutch kit itself thats the pricey bit from previous experience

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 21:57
may be lucky with the flywheel being ok then, mr clutch quoted £440 for a 2 piece clutch fitment

Im going to be phoning mr clutch tomorrow see if they will fit my SMF and 850r clutch.

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 22:15
Im going to be phoning mr clutch tomorrow see if they will fit my SMF and 850r clutch.

dunno whether they will, you'll have to persuade them that they will fit

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 22:24
dunno whether they will, you'll have to persuade them that they will fit

What a fight im having at the min mate trying to get somebody to fit it. Nobody wants to do it.

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 22:26
What a fight im having at the min mate trying to get somebody to fit it. Nobody wants to do it.

not surprised mate, arse of a job, although i reckon i could do one now after seeing one done

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 22:30
not surprised mate, arse of a job, although i reckon i could do one now after seeing one done

Rear main needs done at the same time too. Might have to be another forum clutch fitting the way its going if anybody would be up for it?

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 22:41
Rear main needs done at the same time too. Might have to be another forum clutch fitting the way its going if anybody would be up for it?

thats a gearbox off job then mate innit

daza-b
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 22:45
Rear main needs done at the same time too. Might have to be another forum clutch fitting the way its going if anybody would be up for it?

you know me, ill always lend a hand lol

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 22:46
you'll have to do it in a hurricane to beat emlyn and joe's effort lol

T5Tom
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 22:52
It's the 3 piece 850 t5 kit you can buy off Volvo for 150 inc vat, I just knowone wants to fit them! I would definately want an 850r clutch if possible tho.

Daza-b ill pm u again in the morning thanks mate

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:00
It's the 3 piece 850 t5 kit you can buy off Volvo for 150 inc vat, I just knowone wants to fit them! I would definately want an 850r clutch if possible tho.

Daza-b ill pm u again in the morning thanks mate

depends on how good your slave is though, although after recent events i wish i'd of changed mine lol

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:02
thats a gearbox off job then mate innit

Is it not a gearbox off job anyways mate to do the clutch? Rear main's right behind the flywheel so if ive got that off might aswell do it plus i think its leaking anyways.

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:04
Is it not a gearbox off job anyways mate to do the clutch? Rear main's right behind the flywheel so if ive got that off might aswell do it plus i think its leaking anyways.

yeah mate i was just thinking dropped on the subframe instead of right out

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:05
It's the 3 piece 850 t5 kit you can buy off Volvo for 150 inc vat, I just knowone wants to fit them! I would definately want an 850r clutch if possible tho.

Daza-b ill pm u again in the morning thanks mate

If daz is going to fit it for you ill come help too so long as its on a weekend and depending on where you do it at?

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:07
yeah mate i was just thinking dropped on the subframe instead of right out

Yes i see what your saying mate. Ill have to see if i can persuade emlyn to come and help. lol

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:08
Yes i see what your saying mate. Ill have to see if i can persuade emlyn to come and help. lol

nah mate leave him alone dont think he has recovered yet

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:08
you know me, ill always lend a hand lol

You could well be needed mate.

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:09
nah mate leave him alone dont think he has recovered yet

Not surprised working in that cold all day.

You still off in the morn?

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:17
Not surprised working in that cold all day.

You still off in the morn?

yeah mate but in the 850, aint got all my trust in the v70r yet and its running like crap, like its got alot of spark blow out all of a sudden

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:23
yeah mate but in the 850, aint got all my trust in the v70r yet and its running like crap, like its got alot of spark blow out all of a sudden

Aye its a long way to go for it to let you down on the side of the road. You going to have it ready for cadwell?

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:29
Aye its a long way to go for it to let you down on the side of the road. You going to have it ready for cadwell?

lol if it aint ill be in something else mate, ive broke down on the way to glasgow a few times nearly always more than 200 miles into the journey lol

t5 pete
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:34
Ive done quite a few now just take your time as its not too hard just raise the car as hight as you can then get a jack onto the sub frame and lower it down at the passanger side and slide the box out obviously theres a few things to undew and remove main thing to remember is to re align, centre the clutch correctly on re fitting.
Regards to the rear main bearing my own 850 t5 box has been off twice now by me and never replaced the seal if its not leaking leave it alone.

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:43
lol if it aint ill be in something else mate, ive broke down on the way to glasgow a few times nearly always more than 200 miles into the journey lol

Sounds like you dont have much look with traveling to glasgow.

smithson007
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:45
Ive done quite a few now just take your time as its not too hard just raise the car as hight as you can then get a jack onto the sub frame and lower it down at the passanger side and slide the box out obviously theres a few things to undew and remove main thing to remember is to re align, centre the clutch correctly on re fitting.
Regards to the rear main bearing my own 850 t5 box has been off twice now by me and never replaced the seal if its not leaking leave it alone.

How wrong can you get it when it comes to re-aligning everything?

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:53
Sounds like you dont have much look with traveling to glasgow.

yeah most of the time once was in a granada 2.8 ghia that i bought for £130 lol broke down at lesmahagow, and another time in a mondeo v6 ghia, made it up to wigan, another time was in my renault 5 gt turbo made it into scotland though,(i know surprising lol, but been driving up my whole life mate so not too bad

t5 pete
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 23:57
How wrong can you get it when it comes to re-aligning everything?

You could do it by eye but its not the easy thing to do and a alignment tool or a imput shaft from a gear box the same will make the job so easy and will gaurentee you that every thing is central and aligned.

zoidberg
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 00:56
Dont mean to ram you up your tradesman's........ but I 've heard lots of BAD things about 'Mr Clutch', wether this branch is similar I dont know !! :bricks:

Al115
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 06:02
Dont mean to ram you up your tradesman's........ but I 've heard lots of BAD things about 'Mr Clutch', wether this branch is similar I dont know !! :bricks:

I've never used them myself, just their online quote tool!

T5frankie
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 07:36
mr clutch northampton do good work and surely if they do clutches all day everyday then they are the best people to do the job

T5Tom
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 09:49
If daz is going to fit it for you ill come help too so long as its on a weekend and depending on where you do it at?

Thanks bud, I can only do weekends really as I work all week.

I'll look into getting a clutch from Volvo this week then and hopefully we can arrange something on a weekend soon?

Cheers lads for restoring my faith, thought I was gona have to scrap it yesterday I was gutted!

volvokid
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 10:07
I hope you get it fixed but if your in a situation you cant afford to repair it, surely tunning the car should be a nono, your just adding extra strain to the car

T5Tom
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 10:43
Does anyone have the part number for an 850r clutch kit as im going into Volvo this morning to price one up?

volvokid
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 11:30
Pm rufe he will beat ur price i bet

T5Tom
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 11:58
Just called, He gave me a price for an engine code B5234T5 is that the engine code for an 850r does anyone know? Dont want to buy the wrong bits it would be a bit of a disaster lol

M-R-P
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 13:20
Before Pedro finds his hard drive full of info...
B4204S2 V40 2.0l FWD
B5244S4 S40/V50 2.4i FWD
B5244S7 S40/V50 2.4i FWD
B5202S 850/V70 2.0i FWD
B5252S 850/V70 2.5i FWD
B5254T4 S60/V70 R AWD
B5234T3 V70 T5 FWD
B5244T5 S60 T5 FWD
V70 FWD
B5254T S70/V70 GLT FWD - 1999
B5244T 2000 -
B5234T 850/V70 2.3T FWD Turbo
B5244T3 S60/V70/S80/XC70 2000 -
B5254T2 S80/S60/XC90 2.5T FWD/AWD, V70 2.5T FWD, XC70 AWD
B5244S S60/V70 2.4 FWD
B5244S6 S60/V70 2.4 FWD
B5244S2 S80/V70 2.4 FWD
B5244S4 C30/C70 T5 FWD
B5254T3 S40/V50 T5 FWD/AWD
D4192T3 S40/V40
D4192T S40/V40
D5252T S70/S80 2.5TDi FWD
D4192T2 S40/V40
D5244T2
D4204T C30 2.0D
D4192T4 S40/V40
B8444S XC90/S80 V8 AWD
B6299S S80 2.9 FWD
B6324S XC90/S80/V70 3.2 FWD/XC70 AWD
B6304T4 S80 3.0 T6 AWD

T5Tom
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 13:47
Before Pedro finds his hard drive full of info...
B4204S2 V40 2.0l FWD
B5244S4 S40/V50 2.4i FWD
B5244S7 S40/V50 2.4i FWD
B5202S 850/V70 2.0i FWD
B5252S 850/V70 2.5i FWD
B5254T4 S60/V70 R AWD
B5234T3 V70 T5 FWD
B5244T5 S60 T5 FWD
V70 FWD
B5254T S70/V70 GLT FWD - 1999
B5244T 2000 -
B5234T 850/V70 2.3T FWD Turbo
B5244T3 S60/V70/S80/XC70 2000 -
B5254T2 S80/S60/XC90 2.5T FWD/AWD, V70 2.5T FWD, XC70 AWD
B5244S S60/V70 2.4 FWD
B5244S6 S60/V70 2.4 FWD
B5244S2 S80/V70 2.4 FWD
B5244S4 C30/C70 T5 FWD
B5254T3 S40/V50 T5 FWD/AWD
D4192T3 S40/V40
D4192T S40/V40
D5252T S70/S80 2.5TDi FWD
D4192T2 S40/V40
D5244T2
D4204T C30 2.0D
D4192T4 S40/V40
B8444S XC90/S80 V8 AWD
B6299S S80 2.9 FWD
B6324S XC90/S80/V70 3.2 FWD/XC70 AWD
B6304T4 S80 3.0 T6 AWD

Thanks pal, can't find the 850r on the list though?

This is turning into quite an illusive part lol do any of the lads that have fitted the r clutch to the t5 possibly have a part number?

M-R-P
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 15:01
B5234T5 is for the 850 T5R from what I've found on google.

cherry1809
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 15:05
Your quite welcome to use my reg number if you want mate. I'll PM it over. :)

T5Tom
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 15:27
Your quite welcome to use my reg number if you want mate. I'll PM it over. :)

Thanks mate that's great will this be the right one?

DaveC19
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 15:51
B5234T5 is for the 850 T5R from what I've found on google.

This is the engine for the 850 T-5R man/auto and 850R auto.

The engine for the 850R manual is the B5234T4. The 850R clutch should fit both engines because they are essentially the same (the T4 has stronger con rods).

I bought a 3 pce 850R clutch kit recently from onlineautomotive.com (or some such) for ST£240 inc VAT. Didn't fit it yet 'cause its not gone yet. It's in a LUK box but has a Sachs disc so not sure exactly what I got here. Didn't use him yet but Rufe is apparently the best guy for bits, he will make sure you get the right parts at a good price. Was advised to do the rear seal at the same time 'cause even if its not leaking now it might be sooner than later & you don't want to have to drop the box again !!! Also was advised to fit new flywheel bolts as well (flywheel has to come off for the seal).

Its a lot of dosh but you have to take the hit mate. If you scrap it and get another the clutch could go in the new one in 6 months so you're back to square one and out of pocket.

---The joys of motoring with these old ladies---

I have rumblings from the gearbox bearings which with the scarcity of an M59 box could be a major nightmare !!

Hope you can get it sorted with the help of some of the guys on here.

T5Tom
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 16:07
This is the engine for the 850 T-5R man/auto and 850R auto.

The engine for the 850R manual is the B5234T4. The 850R clutch should fit both engines because they are essentially the same (the T4 has stronger con rods).

I bought a 3 pce 850R clutch kit recently from onlineautomotive.com (or some such) for ST£240 inc VAT. Didn't fit it yet 'cause its not gone yet. It's in a LUK box but has a Sachs disc so not sure exactly what I got here. Didn't use him yet but Rufe is apparently the best guy for bits, he will make sure you get the right parts at a good price. Was advised to do the rear seal at the same time 'cause even if its not leaking now it might be sooner than later & you don't want to have to drop the box again !!! Also was advised to fit new flywheel bolts as well (flywheel has to come off for the seal).

Its a lot of dosh but you have to take the hit mate. If you scrap it and get another the clutch could go in the new one in 6 months so you're back to square one and out of pocket.

---The joys of motoring with these old ladies---

I have rumblings from the gearbox bearings which with the scarcity of an M59 box could be a major nightmare !!

Hope you can get it sorted with the help of some of the guys on here.

Got daza-b on it now mate, he's getting me a price for the 850r kit but lke you said its definately worth doing the seal whilst your there!

Thanks mate hope you get your gearbox sorted soon.. they are a nightmare! I build industrial gearboxs for a living and know how much of a pain they can be, if i can be of any help mate give me a shout :)

frobes2
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 16:32
My clutch on my T-5R was slipping so I put an 850R clutch in it and whilst the gearbox was out, for the rear main, I put a Quaife and a lightened/balanced single mass flywheel in!!! Now it's bloody awesome...

Good Luck with getting it done and glad you're keeping it,

Scott..

T5Tom
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 17:03
clutch is ordered... full 850r clutch kit and oil seal - £279 delivered! Beats £600 :D

cherry1809
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 17:46
Coolio, Glad to be of service.
...Volvo are gonna think I've got issues with my launches. Lol. 2 clutches in a year :D

daza-b
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 17:48
Coolio, Glad to be of service.
...Volvo are gonna think I've got issues with my launches. Lol. 2 clutches in a year :D

haha i know you sit on that clutch wayyyyy to much!! lol


clutch is ordered... full 850r clutch kit and oil seal - £279 delivered! Beats £600 :D

looking good bud, good chattin 2 ya and lets look forward to a bloody hard day of work!! haha

T5Tom
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 19:32
Can't wait I'm looking forward to it mate! Thanks again for everyone's advice, through your efforts you've effectively saved a t5!

smithson007
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 19:43
When and where are you planning to do the clutch change?

daza-b
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 19:55
at mine a week on sat lol

smithson007
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 20:02
at mine a week on sat lol

You would be wouldnt ya when i cant make it. lol

daza-b
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 20:06
You would be wouldnt ya when i cant make it. lol

lol gonna av to do ur the week after lol

smithson007
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 20:17
lol gonna av to do ur the week after lol

Cant make that week either mate. Cadwell next saturday then HLM dyno day the week after.

daza-b
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 20:18
Cant make that week either mate. Cadwell next saturday then HLM dyno day the week after.

lol so hard to please!! lol u tell me a day then lol

smithson007
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 20:35
lol so hard to please!! lol u tell me a day then lol

Lol. Ill have to ask my PA when i can make it. lol

daza-b
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 20:36
Lol. Ill have to ask my PA when i can make it. lol

hahaha would that be an iphone 4s by any chance? lmao

smithson007
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 20:44
hahaha would that be an iphone 4s by any chance? lmao

No ill just sit and talk to myself in the corner for half an hour mate. lol

daza-b
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 21:06
No ill just sit and talk to myself in the corner for half an hour mate. lol

hahaha i think we will both be doin that when its clutch time lol, either that or poking the scenic with a stick lmfao!

T5Tom
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 22:01
Just thinking daza, will we have to drain the gearbox to take it off or is it a sealed unit? I've never taken a gearbox off so I wouldn't know. Do you reckon it would be worth doing the gearbox oil while were ther and were changing the seal anyway? If so... What gearbox oil do you think is best to buy?

daza-b
Wednesday 15th February 2012, 22:04
Just thinking daza, will we have to drain the gearbox to take it off or is it a sealed unit? I've never taken a gearbox off so I wouldn't know. Do you reckon it would be worth doing the gearbox oil while were ther and were changing the seal anyway? If so... What gearbox oil do you think is best to buy?

i know it as ep90 but thats when i lived in spain, may be 75w30 i think, ill check my autodata tomorrow m8

DaveC19
Thursday 16th February 2012, 14:55
Thanks mate hope you get your gearbox sorted soon.. they are a nightmare! I build industrial gearboxs for a living and know how much of a pain they can be, if i can be of any help mate give me a shout :)

Thanks mate. If I can't find a decent 2nd hand box somewhere may have to repair mine. Volvo apparently don't sell the internal bits for gearboxes. Been told there are around 8 bearings in it and it would be necessary to split the box, pull out the bearings, find the numbers on them and then try to source from a bearing mfr. After all that been told the noise may not be bearings but could be shaft end float or other issues. :mad:

May need your help at some point but it won't be any time soon (hopefully).

Glad to see your replacement clutch is going ahead and the car survives to fight another day.

DaveC19
Thursday 16th February 2012, 20:55
Just thinking daza, will we have to drain the gearbox to take it off or is it a sealed unit? I've never taken a gearbox off so I wouldn't know. Do you reckon it would be worth doing the gearbox oil while were ther and were changing the seal anyway? If so... What gearbox oil do you think is best to buy?

From what I remember about changing clutches (on Morris Minors & Ford Anglias - about a century ago) you don't have to drain the gearbox to take it off and you won't lose any oil unless you remove the drain plug or filler plug (not sure if the M56/M59 box has both). You will be changing the seal on the back of the engine not the gearbox. However if the gearbox oil hasn't been changed in a while its no harm to do it with the box off the car (easier than with it on the car), although you will probably have to fill it when the box is back on (normally you would fill it until the oil dribbles out of the filler plug hole).

Volvo recommend "Volvo synthetic gearbox oil 97308" (but then they would wouldn't they). Capacity for the M56/M59 is 2.1 litres.

Good luck with it.

I'd be interested in how you get on as I'm facing the same job in the not too distant future!!

Volvostorm
Thursday 16th February 2012, 21:06
The M56 does have a drain plug

T5Tom
Thursday 16th February 2012, 22:00
Thanks mate. If I can't find a decent 2nd hand box somewhere may have to repair mine. Volvo apparently don't sell the internal bits for gearboxes. Been told there are around 8 bearings in it and it would be necessary to split the box, pull out the bearings, find the numbers on them and then try to source from a bearing mfr. After all that been told the noise may not be bearings but could be shaft end float or other issues. :mad:

May need your help at some point but it won't be any time soon (hopefully).

Glad to see your replacement clutch is going ahead and the car survives to fight another day.

If you end up going ahead with it let me know as I get quite a big discount from a bearing supplier through work.

Cheers mate, made up I'm keeping it! Some fella just came round to pick my head unit up i had for sale and he couldn't stop talking about it which is only a good thing lol

T5Tom
Thursday 16th February 2012, 22:07
Volvo recommend "Volvo synthetic gearbox oil 97308" (but then they would wouldn't they). Capacity for the M56/M59 is 2.1 litres.

yes they most definately would :) got to be worth doing as I'm not sure if its ever been changed? Same as the cambelt too, not sure when it was last done although from what I've read its pretty easy to do on these isn't it?

M-R-P
Thursday 16th February 2012, 22:49
Replacement manual fluid is 75/90 full synth. Don't scrimp, get the good stuff. Empty it, fill with cheap stuff, drive 10-20 miles, empty and fill with good stuff. There's a drain plug at the bottom and the fill plug is at the top, same size.
How I did mine...
http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37519&page=3
Hope this helps :)

T5Tom
Friday 17th February 2012, 08:23
Replacement manual fluid is 75/90 full synth. Don't scrimp, get the good stuff. Empty it, fill with cheap stuff, drive 10-20 miles, empty and fill with good stuff. There's a drain plug at the bottom and the fill plug is at the top, same size.
How I did mine...
http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37519&page=3
Hope this helps :)

Thanks mate flushing is always best, feels cleaner when you put the good stuff in lol

T5Tom
Friday 17th February 2012, 11:57
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h314/whiteswade/clutch.jpg

ooooooooohh look what arrived this morning!

I would definately reccommend rufe for parts, his place knew exactly what i wanted and were very friendly and helpful, and i only ordered it at 4:45 on wednesday afternoon! Top notch

daza-b
Friday 17th February 2012, 12:32
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h314/whiteswade/clutch.jpg

ooooooooohh look what arrived this morning!

I would definately reccommend rufe for parts, his place knew exactly what i wanted and were very friendly and helpful, and i only ordered it at 4:45 on wednesday afternoon! Top notch

sweet as mate, all that fun for something that small lmao!

T5Tom
Friday 17th February 2012, 13:15
I can't wait mate, it'll be a totally different car when It's all fitted! Was tempted to get an LSD too while I was there, I've heard they're awesome bit I can't afford one lol