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The Flying Moose
Sunday 5th February 2012, 04:39
To get Frankie back on the road I decided to pop over to Illford on friday to remove an M59 with him from siamblues old car.

Really nice to catch up with you again Gary.

Today 6am start and 9pm finish.

M59 Removal and Re-fitment plus a new single mass flywheel and clutch.

With the help of my mate Joe (rockheadrumble) we managed to get everything back together again bar the clutch bleeding and the top intercooler pipes re-fitted as we ran out of brake fluid.

What a pig of a job though, the M59 shafts are a pain in the bottom, the wishbones wouldnt separate, many bolts sheared off and the gearbox decided to double collar itself and needed two collars hacksawing off whilst wedged off to get it seated correctly.

All is though a productive day and nearly finished... Frankie the rests up to you mate!

Oh and you make a nice brew ;)

Some Pics:

Start of the day:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00070-20120204-1030.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00069-20120204-1029.jpg

Lowering the subframe:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00077-20120204-1340.jpg

Frankie looking busy...

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00072-20120204-1210.jpg

Here is the damage to the old M59, as you can see the diff split right open.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00073-20120204-1307.jpg

Single and dual mass combintations together:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00075-20120204-1339.jpg

Putting her together again!

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00076-20120204-1339.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00078-20120204-1646.jpg

Snow and darkness:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00079-20120204-2017.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00081-20120204-2017.jpg

Jorney home:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00082-20120204-2241.jpg

The journey back was awful, many stranded motorists and it took little over 4 hours to do 85 miles.

The car however in "Winter Mode" never was faultered. Even made it up a 15 degree gradient just outside home making tracks for other stranded motorists to follow in.

She did get a little hot however as the intake was full of snow so needed a top-up and a good cool down.

M-R-P
Sunday 5th February 2012, 09:24
Wow! A job well done gents. It shows a level of dedication to the forum, brand and fellow enthusiasts when your prepared to roll around in the snow, in the dark, to fix the gearbox on somebody elses car.
Respec' :)

rikcougar
Sunday 5th February 2012, 09:34
Great job, restores faith in mankind, hope you have all thawed out by now

volvo
Sunday 5th February 2012, 09:41
Good work guys, its great when you get together to sort something out....good team spirit! Hope the car is fine now.....

T5frankie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 09:58
First off i have to say a massive thanks to Emlyn for the long round trip to ilford on friday to help take the box off the donor car (thanks gary), Then again to emlyn and Joe who had a 6am start to make a start on my car, they got home at 3.15 am sunday cos of the snow, they showed massive determination and just ploughed on through the problems that kept cropping up, even working in the snow and dark for the last 5 hours until time and weather and lack of brake fluid eventually got the better of us. i can't thank you guys enough so owe you many drinks next weekend. :beer:

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac96/t5frankie/carrepair1.jpg
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac96/t5frankie/carrepair-1.jpg

The Flying Banana
Sunday 5th February 2012, 10:13
WOW.......that is serious dedication, its not even my car and i feel i have to say thanks !! That pic of being under the car in the snow and in the dark is beyond the call of duty !!

A cosy garage with access to a ramp etc is what i was exepecting and then i would think about doing it lol !!

T5frankie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 10:17
Great job, restores faith in mankind, hope you have all thawed out by now

when i got in my skin felt like it was on fire due to being out in it all day lol

claymore
Sunday 5th February 2012, 10:29
That is immense lads, I love this forum

smithson007
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:14
Credit to you all for working in that and getting the job done.

T5frankie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:17
Credit to you all for working in that and getting the job done.

its not finished the clutch has a leak somewhere

smithson007
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:20
its not finished the clutch has a leak somewhere

Is that your job for today mate?

rikcougar
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:24
Got as far as getting the snow off mine today, I am humbled by your dedication to the cause :worship::worship::worship::worship:

T5frankie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:24
Is that your job for today mate?

probably not today, got to see the family, and car is over my bros (6 miles away) don't think i will risk getting stuck lol

Santa
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:26
That'ss some going, great job Emlyn and Joe and great job Frankie keeping them topped up with tea :-)

volvokid
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:32
What a great bunch of guys, well done

smithson007
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:37
probably not today, got to see the family, and car is over my bros (6 miles away) don't think i will risk getting stuck lol

No snow at all here. Nice sunny day. Im going out to change my bulkhead bush shortly. Done my pcv yesterday.

Is it going to be ready for friday?

T5frankie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:42
No snow at all here. Nice sunny day. Im going out to change my bulkhead bush shortly. Done my pcv yesterday.

Is it going to be ready for friday?

not if i have to spend money on it mate i is skint lol

t5 pete
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:44
Thats unreal well done and just goes to show how good people are on the forum

smithson007
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:45
not if i have to spend money on it mate i is skint lol

yes nothing's cheap on them. Are you taking the 2.0 litre if it aint ready?

leet5r
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:48
should have scrapped it , well done lads , took me 2 days on my own lol

Volvostorm
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:49
Well done Emlyn and Joe, you both really are 1 in a million!

T5frankie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 11:53
yes nothing's cheap on them. Are you taking the 2.0 litre if it aint ready?

i'll take it dunno about running it, that would be embarrassing lol

foammanmark
Sunday 5th February 2012, 12:38
That is so good to see and I now know who to call if I have a major mechanical issue. To have done that in Summer would have been some achievement, but yesterday with the conditions and then darkness- hats off to you.

Hope the clutch is sorted soon and that the car is OK for Cadwell.

martybelfastt5
Sunday 5th February 2012, 13:00
fair play,,,never seen a gearbox getting changed in the snow,lol peolpe think im crazy for doing the odd wash in bad weather but thats how its done,lol

smithson007
Sunday 5th February 2012, 13:14
i'll take it dunno about running it, that would be embarrassing lol

Na would be good for a laugh mate. Be even better if you could over take a few people on track in it. Lol

smithson007
Sunday 5th February 2012, 13:15
That is so good to see and I now know who to call if I have a major mechanical issue. To have done that in Summer would have been some achievement, but yesterday with the conditions and then darkness- hats off to you.

Hope the clutch is sorted soon and that the car is OK for Cadwell.

I hoping theyre all going to offer to come up here and fit my clutch for me. I could even supply a nice large farm shed to work in.

T5frankie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 13:20
I hoping theyre all going to offer to come up here and fit my clutch for me. I could even supply a nice large farm shed to work in.

i think doing mine has put emlyn off for life lol

T5frankie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 13:20
Na would be good for a laugh mate. Be even better if you could over take a few people on track in it. Lol

i know but its my daily and if i kill that then im' ££££ed

foammanmark
Sunday 5th February 2012, 13:22
I hoping theyre all going to offer to come up here and fit my clutch for me. I could even supply a nice large farm shed to work in.

I'd come up to help you mate, if an extra pair of hands would make it easier for you. Nice drive upto Carlisle, and I would feel better about the MBC/gauge that you've offered to fit for me.

GregE102
Sunday 5th February 2012, 13:55
Well done Emlyn & Joe!!!

Emlyn have you removed the snow guard then?
Every one always removes them! saying we don't need them!

But guess every one will be putting them back on again! lol Me too!

Again Good Job!!!!

The Flying Moose
Sunday 5th February 2012, 14:55
i think doing mine has put emlyn off for life lol

Lets just say I wont be rushing out any time soon to do my manual conversion! I was quite supprised how many blooming issues we ran into on Frankies car despite the fact complications are usually reserved for whenever I touch mine!

Just a little hacked off we could get the clutch done and working, at least however on crank she did move.


Well done Emlyn & Joe!!!

Emlyn have you removed the snow guard then?
Every one always removes them! saying we don't need them!

But guess every one will be putting them back on again! lol Me too!

Again Good Job!!!!

Urrmm in a word YES!

The snow guard usually blocks the intake up completely hence at least why I removed mine. I dont carry it around in the boot though "just incase of snow" so funily enough steam out of bay decided to happen.

Im not entirely sure how it would help though as snow stuck to all plastic so either way the car would be recieving no "fresh air"?

dalhousie2008
Sunday 5th February 2012, 15:32
Definitely team spirit there lads, I still think I preferred my paying local garage £120 to fit new clutch, much less hassle.

mitchyboy01
Sunday 5th February 2012, 15:38
First off i have to say a massive thanks to Emlyn for the long round trip to ilford on friday to help take the box off the donor car (thanks gary), Then again to emlyn and Joe who had a 6am start to make a start on my car, they got home at 3.15 am sunday cos of the snow, they showed massive determination and just ploughed on through the problems that kept cropping up, even working in the snow and dark for the last 5 hours until time and weather and lack of brake fluid eventually got the better of us. i can't thank you guys enough so owe you many drinks next weekend. :beer:

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac96/t5frankie/carrepair1.jpg
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac96/t5frankie/carrepair-1.jpg

Fantastic job guys, great to see the forum pulling together! I bet the neighbours thought you were all nuts!!

I lifted the bonnet on mine in the cold the other day and I had people looking at me like I some sort of mad man lol

Glad you have your car back Frankie, bet you're well happy!

merc85
Sunday 5th February 2012, 15:42
To get Frankie back on the road I decided to pop over to Illford on friday to remove an M59 with him from siamblues old car.

Really nice to catch up with you again Gary.

Today 6am start and 9pm finish.

M59 Removal and Re-fitment plus a new single mass flywheel and clutch.

With the help of my mate Joe (rockheadrumble) we managed to get everything back together again bar the clutch bleeding and the top intercooler pipes re-fitted as we ran out of brake fluid.

What a pig of a job though, the M59 shafts are a pain in the bottom, the wishbones wouldnt separate, many bolts sheared off and the gearbox decided to double collar itself and needed two collars hacksawing off whilst wedged off to get it seated correctly.

All is though a productive day and nearly finished... Frankie the rests up to you mate!

Oh and you make a nice brew ;)

Some Pics:

Start of the day:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00070-20120204-1030.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00069-20120204-1029.jpg

Lowering the subframe:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00077-20120204-1340.jpg

Frankie looking busy...

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00072-20120204-1210.jpg

Here is the damage to the old M59, as you can see the diff split right open.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00073-20120204-1307.jpg

Single and dual mass combintations together:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00075-20120204-1339.jpg

Putting her together again!

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00076-20120204-1339.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00078-20120204-1646.jpg

Snow and darkness:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00079-20120204-2017.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00081-20120204-2017.jpg

Jorney home:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00082-20120204-2241.jpg

The journey back was awful, many stranded motorists and it took little over 4 hours to do 85 miles.

The car however in "Winter Mode" never was faultered. Even made it up a 15 degree gradient just outside home making tracks for other stranded motorists to follow in.

She did get a little hot however as the intake was full of snow so needed a top-up and a good cool down.

Well done People Good to See a Red, 850 helping out the Saffy crew

Jimmie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 15:53
Good work guys and nice to see people getting together to help one another,a very rare thing now sadly.
Frankie will you now stop tracking the motor and look after?

T5frankie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 15:58
Good work guys and nice to see people getting together to help one another,a very rare thing now sadly.
Frankie will you now stop tracking the motor and look after?

is that a real question? you mean drive around and be bored with the car i have built? no mate its meant to be enjoyed and thats always what i will do with it, cars break that's life then they get fixed, unlike alot of people that doesn't mean scrapping them. i try and go easier on the gearbox though, bit of luck i found an m59

T5frankie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 16:00
Definitely team spirit there lads, I still think I preferred my paying local garage £120 to fit new clutch, much less hassle.

£120 to fit a new clutch? whats it made of bubble gum, they cost £250 new and it wasn't just a clutch it was the gearbox, clutch and flywheel

Jimmie
Sunday 5th February 2012, 16:06
Frankie if you hadn't found a box then you might have been going round the track in an old angle box.
Now they are fun.

Jamest5r
Sunday 5th February 2012, 16:22
Top job Lads :) make's my day of aggro look simple :)

JUDGENINJA
Sunday 5th February 2012, 16:35
Well done guys.. Much more of a mission than me..
My good turn for the day was to clear the entrance to the estate and clear two channels about 30-40 metres long up the hill..

Slightly annoyed that three houses on my estate came out of their houses to clear their own drive whilst I was doing it, but didn't even acknowledge me unlike the homecare nurse that stopped to thank me as there are three OAP houses on our street when she doesn't even live round here.

GregE102
Sunday 5th February 2012, 16:36
Lets just say I wont be rushing out any time soon to do my manual conversion! I was quite supprised how many blooming issues we ran into on Frankies car despite the fact complications are usually reserved for whenever I touch mine!

Just a little hacked off we could get the clutch done and working, at least however on crank she did move.



Urrmm in a word YES!

The snow guard usually blocks the intake up completely hence at least why I removed mine. I dont carry it around in the boot though "just incase of snow" so funily enough steam out of bay decided to happen.

Im not entirely sure how it would help though as snow stuck to all plastic so either way the car would be recieving no "fresh air"?

Ok Mate

I see what your saying! hope all is well with the car!!!

Cheers Greg

AndysR
Sunday 5th February 2012, 16:47
That's a serious effort guys well done! Great to see forum members pulling together. Shows just how good this community is :)




Single and dual mass combintations together:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00075-20120204-1339.jpg




Just as well that dual mass was actually a dual mass as there's plenty of hot spots on the flywheel face there to give some decent clutch judder if it was a more traditional solid flywheel

Kingsford G
Sunday 5th February 2012, 17:45
Wow.Very proud of u guys and happy for Frankie having his race pride back on the road.Well done.

pamdam
Sunday 5th February 2012, 18:37
Well done frankie good to see it running aga

pamdam
Sunday 5th February 2012, 18:44
Well done frankie, no more 5 mile tows home.

The Flying Moose
Sunday 5th February 2012, 21:03
Ok Mate

I see what your saying! hope all is well with the car!!!

Cheers Greg

I didnt mean for that to come accross the wrong way greg! I just dont understand the theory behind the snow guard.

That said if it wasnt absolutely essential and also the best time at night to travel I wouldnt have made the jorney home and would have pulled out the sleeping bag and a book!

LiamT4
Sunday 5th February 2012, 21:15
Well done lads, always good to know there are people out there ready to help others when needed, especially in this weather.

You wouldn't fancy fixing a small oil leak on mine would you? its nothing much just the RMS :hidesbehi:wink:

T5RPete
Sunday 5th February 2012, 21:16
Good effort guys! Was looking forward to these pictures!

abdul
Sunday 5th February 2012, 22:04
Well done

smithy
Sunday 5th February 2012, 22:24
weldone lads .

The Flying Moose
Sunday 5th February 2012, 22:38
Well done lads, always good to know there are people out there ready to help others when needed, especially in this weather.

You wouldn't fancy fixing a small oil leak on mine would you? its nothing much just the RMS :hidesbehi:wink:

If you were keeping it Liam... ;)

LiamT4
Sunday 5th February 2012, 23:50
If you were keeping it Liam... ;)

I wouldn't ask for a job like that anyway mate, just trying to decide if i should sell it how it is, stating the problem and taking £300 off the asking price or get it fixed then sell it.

GregE102
Monday 6th February 2012, 03:19
I didnt mean for that to come accross the wrong way greg! I just dont understand the theory behind the snow guard.

That said if it wasnt absolutely essential and also the best time at night to travel I wouldnt have made the jorney home and would have pulled out the sleeping bag and a book!

No worries I know you did not mean it that way mate sorry if i sounded of as well? I answered in a hurry! lol

Nope i always remember the snow guards pointing down over the top of the Rad & IC! I i remember people taking them off as we never really used to get that much snow!

But now days with Global warming the weather is different lol

So did the front grill its self get blocked? or the pipe to the air filter get blocked?

Cheers Greg

Nealevo
Monday 6th February 2012, 10:26
well done guys, In the imortal words of the A team, 'I love it when a plan comes together'
Frankie try not to break it this time... just go out to win, not annihilate !!!

The Flying Moose
Monday 6th February 2012, 12:28
No worries I know you did not mean it that way mate sorry if i sounded of as well? I answered in a hurry! lol

Nope i always remember the snow guards pointing down over the top of the Rad & IC! I i remember people taking them off as we never really used to get that much snow!

But now days with Global warming the weather is different lol

So did the front grill its self get blocked? or the pipe to the air filter get blocked?

Cheers Greg

It was just the pipe to the air filter that was blocked. The grill had a light dusting around the edges but that was it.

GregE102
Monday 6th February 2012, 14:56
It was just the pipe to the air filter that was blocked. The grill had a light dusting around the edges but that was it.


I seem to remember the snow guards angled down over the rad! to prevent that, I remember some one taking mine off and telling me you don't need that lol

They where wrong lol

But the snow is melting now! lol

Cheers Greg

Jamest5r
Monday 6th February 2012, 19:41
You got it bleed yet mate?

T5frankie
Monday 6th February 2012, 19:56
You got it bleed yet mate?

no mate the clutch pipe has corroded and needs replacing, but there seems to be a nasty rattle coming from the gearbox area so bit worried

Jamest5r
Monday 6th February 2012, 19:58
no mate the clutch pipe has corroded and needs replacing, but there seems to be a nasty rattle coming from the gearbox area so bit worried


Em left his glasses in there??

T5frankie
Monday 6th February 2012, 20:04
Em left his glasses in there??

would the clutch rattle if the hydraulics wasn't yet bled?

Jamest5r
Monday 6th February 2012, 20:21
What you mean by rattle?

t5 pete
Monday 6th February 2012, 20:23
It could be the realease bearing but you wont be able to test if it is untill there is fluid in the system

Jamest5r
Monday 6th February 2012, 20:26
That's what i was wondering as nothing is under pressure.

T5frankie
Monday 6th February 2012, 20:52
its going in on wednesday night for a replacement clutch pipe so will know then if i am to burn it for the insurance.

T5frankie
Monday 6th February 2012, 21:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFq7ysKOTcA&list=UUn3Ddx_wFUM24qD8Yy9O2yQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

rockheadrumble
Tuesday 7th February 2012, 00:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFq7ysKOTcA&list=UUn3Ddx_wFUM24qD8Yy9O2yQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

That sounds way to loud to me to be the release bearing, fingers crossed the box doesn't have to come off again! if it does then you'll need to get it up here so we can get it in the motor club where it warm, dry and light!

smithson007
Tuesday 7th February 2012, 00:47
That sound just like the noise myne is making just louder. Could well be relaese bearing. Did you replace it or is it your old one?

T5frankie
Tuesday 7th February 2012, 08:58
That sound just like the noise myne is making just louder. Could well be relaese bearing. Did you replace it or is it your old one?

Just replaced the whole box so ill be stressing if its that after spending all that dough on it

JUDGENINJA
Tuesday 7th February 2012, 09:12
Does it go quiet when you press the clutch?

T5frankie
Tuesday 7th February 2012, 09:16
Does it go quiet when you press the clutch?

The clutch has no fluid in yet as has a leak from the pipe behind the battery

The Flying Moose
Tuesday 7th February 2012, 15:23
Its very difficult to tell exactly what the noise is. It could well be as described the bearing becuase there is no pressure in the system. I think the first point of call is definately to see what happens once the system has been bled.

Its certainly not the shafts as they would only make a noise when you try to select gear.

The only think I can think at the moment other than that the system has no fluid is that the clutch is on the wrong way round but both me and Joe checked it so that shouldnt be the case and its certainly seated correctly.

Eagrely await results from wednesday!

smithson007
Wednesday 8th February 2012, 21:26
Is the car sorted yet frankie?

T5frankie
Wednesday 8th February 2012, 21:33
Is the car sorted yet frankie?

no mate its in the garage now, i'll find out tomorrow lol, leaving it a bit late

WOODY T5
Wednesday 8th February 2012, 21:38
no mate its in the garage now, i'll find out tomorrow lol, leaving it a bit latelets hope u get it done mate looking forward to u holding me up at cadwell lol

smithson007
Wednesday 8th February 2012, 21:41
no mate its in the garage now, i'll find out tomorrow lol, leaving it a bit late

Yes thats cutting it close mate. Hopefully all will be good.

I can see the 2.0 litre getting thrown around the track on saturday at this rate. LOL

smithson007
Wednesday 8th February 2012, 21:43
lets hope u get it done mate looking forward to u holding me up at cadwell lol

Think im heading to me mates at york on saturday night so ill prob have a run back up with ya mate.

WOODY T5
Wednesday 8th February 2012, 22:03
Think im heading to me mates at york on saturday night so ill prob have a run back up with ya mate.yeah mate no probs could stop off for cupper at my house

smithson007
Wednesday 8th February 2012, 22:42
yeah mate no probs could stop off for cupper at my house

Sounds like a plan mate.

T5frankie
Saturday 11th February 2012, 20:43
right car is back and i'm very pissed off as it turns out its got a knackered clutch release bearing, which really pisses me off as could have put mine in before the gearbox was bolted on, also the steering has gone quite stiff and wont self centre after a corner any ideas?

smithson007
Saturday 11th February 2012, 20:47
Is it driveable with the release bearing the way it is?

My steering does that too when its cold. After half an hour or so it goes and seems to be fine.

T5frankie
Saturday 11th February 2012, 21:02
Is it driveable with the release bearing the way it is?

My steering does that too when its cold. After half an hour or so it goes and seems to be fine.

its driveable yeah but the steering is dodgy and wasnt getting any better

smithson007
Saturday 11th February 2012, 22:20
its driveable yeah but the steering is dodgy and wasnt getting any better

Was it a proper garage it's been in at or just a mate?

T5frankie
Saturday 11th February 2012, 23:17
Was it a proper garage it's been in at or just a mate?

proper garage but only to do the clutch pipe

smithson007
Saturday 11th February 2012, 23:33
proper garage but only to do the clutch pipe

Is the PSF level normal? I know my rack has a leak and thats what i but the heavy steering down too. Im always having to top mine up.

T5frankie
Saturday 11th February 2012, 23:39
Is the PSF level normal? I know my rack has a leak and thats what i but the heavy steering down too. Im always having to top mine up.

i have never had a problem with it until this box was fitted, don't know what the conection is though, maybe the box is fouling the rack? they do sit close, the steering aint whinning like it would do if it was low

smithson007
Saturday 11th February 2012, 23:45
i have never had a problem with it until this box was fitted, don't know what the conection is though, maybe the box is fouling the rack? they do sit close, the steering aint whinning like it would do if it was low

Ive been sat here thinking about it for a while trying to figure out what the connection between the 2 could be. Wonder if there's any way a power steering pipe could have been kinked or squashed slightly when the sub frame was dropped.

T5frankie
Saturday 11th February 2012, 23:55
Ive been sat here thinking about it for a while trying to figure out what the connection between the 2 could be. Wonder if there's any way a power steering pipe could have been kinked or squashed slightly when the sub frame was dropped.

how long was you sitting there thinking? lol

smithson007
Saturday 11th February 2012, 23:59
how long was you sitting there thinking? lol

For too long mate. Lol. Its been a long day. Was up at 6 to set off at 7 only to be back in carlisle for 9.
I know 6 is late for you usually.
Was going to have a look at the car but wasnt in the mood for it.

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 00:06
For too long mate. Lol. Its been a long day. Was up at 6 to set off at 7 only to be back in carlisle for 9.
I know 6 is late for you usually.
Was going to have a look at the car but wasnt in the mood for it.

not surprised it was -5 here at 5pm so up there it must be like the arctic

smithson007
Sunday 12th February 2012, 00:09
not surprised it was -5 here at 5pm so up there it must be like the arctic

Its been quite mild here today. It was about 6 above most of the day. Down to 2 tonight.
When are you away up to Glasgow?

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 00:11
Its been quite mild here today. It was about 6 above most of the day. Down to 2 tonight.
When are you away up to Glasgow?

wednesday morning mate

smithson007
Sunday 12th February 2012, 00:13
wednesday morning mate

Are you hoping to take the V70?

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 00:14
Are you hoping to take the V70?

hoping to cos got 4 kids to take lol

smithson007
Sunday 12th February 2012, 00:19
hoping to cos got 4 kids to take lol

How long you up there for?

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 00:26
How long you up there for?

4 days mate

smithson007
Sunday 12th February 2012, 00:31
4 days mate

Well youve got my mobile number mate so give me a shout if there's anything you need when your passing.

The Flying Moose
Sunday 12th February 2012, 00:50
Really glad you got it running Frankie, all the work did pay off in the end!

Right on the thrust release bearing... time to poke Gary! If we had known it was loud as you said it could have been swapped.

On the steering front, do you remember before we even dropped the subframe and when we first took the wheels off etc I made a comment that the steering was tight despite there being no wheels on the car?

I am 99% certain that nothing that me or Joe did during the change would have effected it simply because I remember how stiff the system was with absolutely no pressure on it beforehand.

I'll sleep on it and see what I can think of.

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 01:06
Really glad you got it running Frankie, all the work did pay off in the end!

Right on the thrust release bearing... time to poke Gary! If we had known it was loud as you said it could have been swapped.

On the steering front, do you remember before we even dropped the subframe and when we first took the wheels off etc I made a comment that the steering was tight despite there being no wheels on the car?

I am 99% certain that nothing that me or Joe did during the change would have effected it simply because I remember how stiff the system was with absolutely no pressure on it beforehand.

I'll sleep on it and see what I can think of.

yeah i remember you saying that, but the last time i drove it (at santa pod it was fine), as for gary (siamblue) he is ignoring me, which he better not carry on doing :mad:

siamblue
Sunday 12th February 2012, 17:27
Not ignoring you Frankie at all, family comes first.. that release bearing made no noise at all or the clutch when it was on my car, why would i let you fit a part that was causing any concern?

leet5r
Sunday 12th February 2012, 18:55
why didnt you put a new 1 in when the job was been done , not having a go at any 1 or anything , just to me that makes good practice on the job for what they cost

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 19:28
why didnt you put a new 1 in when the job was been done , not having a go at any 1 or anything , just to me that makes good practice on the job for what they cost


why fit a new one if his was ok? if i'd of known it was knackered i'd of fit my one of my box, and slave cylinders aint cheap mate

leet5r
Sunday 12th February 2012, 19:38
its ya pride and joy , it might have been okay now but 500miles it could have given up , and takin the box off is a big job

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 19:47
its ya pride and joy , it might have been okay now but 500miles it could have given up , and takin the box off is a big job

not when i don't have the experience and those that are doing it for you are very short of time and it started snowing etc, thats what you get for trusting people

leet5r
Sunday 12th February 2012, 19:52
ya learn from ya mistakes m8 , a know what i would be doin

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 19:53
ya learn from ya mistakes m8 , a know what i would be doin

i know too, letting me borrow your cossie lol

viggen
Sunday 12th February 2012, 20:07
Hi looks good was it easy to change to single mass???

leet5r
Sunday 12th February 2012, 20:12
i know too, letting me borrow your cossie lol

yeah m8 , just come up and take her for a few days

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 20:20
yeah m8 , just come up and take her for a few days

ok name the month lol

smithy
Sunday 12th February 2012, 23:49
yeah m8 , just come up and take her for a few days

not yet a volvo has got to beat the cossie ass first on the drag strip lol.

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 23:53
not yet a volvo has got to beat the cossie ass first on the drag strip lol.

kill it from a rolling start, not from zero though

smithy
Sunday 12th February 2012, 23:55
kill it from a rolling start, not from zero though

both mate lol

T5frankie
Sunday 12th February 2012, 23:55
both mate lol

i'll kill yours from a standing start and a roll on pmsl

viggen
Sunday 12th February 2012, 23:56
I have never had a cossie should I buy one????

smithy
Monday 13th February 2012, 00:03
i'll kill yours from a standing start and a roll on pmsl

we will see mate new season and new records to be beat so bring it on mate i think you are going to be surprised how my 940 will go .

T5frankie
Monday 13th February 2012, 00:05
we will see mate new season and new records to be beat so bring it on mate i think you are going to be surprised how my 940 will go .

lol just waiting for your first excuse when i kick yer arse lol

smithy
Monday 13th February 2012, 00:11
lol just waiting for your first excuse when i kick yer arse lol

the will be know excuses mate just a box of swan vesta and the remains of a once luved 940 lol

leet5r
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 00:25
Smithy you have rised a few points there. Will your bag of hammers be ready for york or any other drag event this year.
Your car can't back ya talkin up lol
You are tryin to bodge a cossie manifold onto your volvo so they can't be that bad !!! Lol
Have you any experince of the cosworth. A 4x4 with 340bhp can run a 12.6 with a 1.6 to 60foot.
Just a few coments there to keep ya happy. And yes you should own a cossie at some point in ya life.

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 00:38
Smithy you have rised a few points there. Will your bag of hammers be ready for york or any other drag event this year.
Your car can't back ya talkin up lol
You are tryin to bodge a cossie manifold onto your volvo so they can't be that bad !!! Lol
Have you any experince of the cosworth. A 4x4 with 340bhp can run a 12.6 with a 1.6 to 60foot.
Just a few coments there to keep ya happy. And yes you should own a cossie at some point in ya life.

he probably don't realise that they only weigh 1280kgs

siamblue
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 00:58
not when i don't have the experience and those that are doing it for you are very short of time and it started snowing etc, thats what you get for trusting people

Tell you what frankie, you can't trust me, so return all of the parts and you can have your £300 back. Just let me know when it is ready to be collected. I wanted to do this amicably, but obviously you didn't.

As I stated before there was nothing wrong with those parts and my car wasn't making.any noises..

If you want to keep the parts and sell them on it is your choice.

smithy
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 01:08
Smithy you have rised a few points there. Will your bag of hammers be ready for york or any other drag event this year.
Your car can't back ya talkin up lol
You are tryin to bodge a cossie manifold onto your volvo so they can't be that bad !!! Lol
Have you any experince of the cosworth. A 4x4 with 340bhp can run a 12.6 with a 1.6 to 60foot.
Just a few coments there to keep ya happy. And yes you should own a cossie at some point in ya life.

never wanted a cossie mate eventhough i do like the escort cossie.you best make sure that cossie is ready for the strip mate im looking forward to this .and regarding the manifold mate that is a proper touring car spec version and i got it for free so why not use it.but as i say bring it on lol.

stu_850t5
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 01:10
Popcorn anyone? Lol

smithy
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 01:14
i would sort this by pm lads not on an open forum just my opinion

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 01:19
i'll get my moneys worth one way or the other, no-one will make a monkey out of me,

stephenevans99
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 09:16
you taking the piss? tell you what expect a visit from me numpty boy ok, if thats how you wanna play me


i'll get my moneys worth one way or the other, no-one will make a monkey out of me,

Some would take those words as threatening behaviour which would be a tad silly on an open forum. :rant:

Gary has offered a refund on the parts he's sold you, obviously recompense for labour etc is another matter, but at least an effort is being made to find a solution.

Hope you guys sort this out without it getting out of hand.

Steve

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 10:22
Some would take those words as threatening behaviour which would be a tad silly on an open forum. :rant:

Gary has offered a refund on the parts he's sold you, obviously recompense for labour etc is another matter, but at least an effort is being made to find a solution.

Hope you guys sort this out without it getting out of hand.

Steve

its not as simple as that though is it?, its i drove 90 miles to take the box off its the 90 miles emlyn on the friday drove to help me, its the 6am start and another 75 mile drive emlyn and joe made to help me (do most of it) in the dark and snow at -1 degrees all day and the 4hr drive home emlyn made in the snow to get home at 3.30am, its the 3 days it was in mr clutch getting finished what we couldn't that night, and he comes out with a stupid comment like take the box off again knowing that that aint gonna happen cos i couldn't do that on my own anyway and would leave me back to square one oh and emlyn took 2 days off work to do this job with me. I'm £500 quid further down the line and the box needs coming off again, i have asked gary to do this job as i have my old bearing that i can use but he obviously like me isn't capable. he could at least offer to buy a new bearing for it...


remember this..
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k549/EMLYNT5/IMG00079-20120204-2017.jpg

Santa
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 10:47
Guys, if you have a dispute with one another keep it off the open forum and try PM/Email/Phone/Pub. If this requires independent mediation let me know.

If this descends again the thread will be closed.

leet5r
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 14:08
Smithy did I hear that right. You got a touring car spec inlet manifold for free. A do not belive that for 1 second and any 1 who knows anything about cosworths will agree.
They used the rs500 for touring m8 that's why they were made. They ran 8 injectors and sell for over a thousand pound so chances are it was a standard 2wd cossie manifold. And regaurds to my cossie been ready for the strip. Yours hasn't been used in the last 3 yrs or something. Hahaha.

LiamT4
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 14:22
Smithy did I hear that right. You got a touring car spec inlet manifold for free. A do not belive that for 1 second and any 1 who knows anything about cosworths will agree.
They used the rs500 for touring m8 that's why they were made. They ran 8 injectors and sell for over a thousand pound so chances are it was a standard 2wd cossie manifold. And regaurds to my cossie been ready for the strip. Yours hasn't been used in the last 3 yrs or something. Hahaha.

Think you have his car mixed up with someone elses, he's done plenty of 1/4miles in the last 2 years, its just got a bit to do before its finished.

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 14:35
Think you have his car mixed up with someone elses, he's done plenty of 1/4miles in the last 2 years, its just got a bit to do before its finished.

It's an eight injector One so that's from the rs500

LiamT4
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 14:48
It's an eight injector One so that's from the rs500

I'm refering to what he's saying about smithys car not running in the past 3 years.

I'll edit to make it clearer.

mitchyboy01
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 14:48
Sorry to say it's the risk you take using second hand bits. I have had a nightmare with loads of bits almost to the point where I half expect it to fecked!
Also, where it wasn't fitted by a garage but by an enthusiast on a snowy driveway it's hard to prove that it's been fitted 100% correct. Not a dig at anyone at all but I can see why these things often end up in a dispute. I can't see Siamblue sending you a known knackered box?

smithy
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 16:31
Smithy did I hear that right. You got a touring car spec inlet manifold for free. A do not belive that for 1 second and any 1 who knows anything about cosworths will agree.
They used the rs500 for touring m8 that's why they were made. They ran 8 injectors and sell for over a thousand pound so chances are it was a standard 2wd cossie manifold. And regaurds to my cossie been ready for the strip. Yours hasn't been used in the last 3 yrs or something. Hahaha.

the manifold i have ran on a escort cossie at over 570 bhp with a 2.5in antilag tb.and it has been driving every year mate all i have to say is see you on the day ,could you imagine the ribbing you would get if an old 940 beat the cossie lol

leet5r
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 18:15
the manifold i have ran on a escort cossie at over 570 bhp with a 2.5in antilag tb.and it has been driving every year mate all i have to say is see you on the day ,could you imagine the ribbing you would get if an old 940 beat the cossie lol

what year escort was it as there is 2 manifolds , if you beat the cossie i will hold my hands up and say your car is faster , i would make excuses lol

t5_monkey
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 18:30
i'll get my moneys worth one way or the other, no-one will make a monkey out of me,

Hey being made a monkey isn't that bad :)

http://www.monkey-pictures.net/funny-monkey-78.jpg

T5frankie
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 19:01
Hey being made a monkey isn't that bad :)

http://www.monkey-pictures.net/funny-monkey-78.jpg

thats an ape, donut lol

Jamest5r
Tuesday 14th February 2012, 19:06
thats an ape, donut lol

HaHaHa Pmsl :)