gearbox differences

[T5frankie]

Is an m56l an m56l no matter what 850 it comes out of i.e 2.0 or 2.5? thanks

[p fandango]

LINK (http://www.box.com/s/ex7qq94bxsr76680jyd8), there were 3 different final drive ratios on M56L's, personally i'm going for a longer ratio box

[mitchyboy01]

Pretty sure all the 850 M56L's are the same mate.

[mitchyboy01]

LINK (http://www.box.com/s/ex7qq94bxsr76680jyd8), there were 2 different final drive ratios on M56L's, personally i'm going for a longer ratio box

Sorry I was thinking in regards to strength rather than ratios.

[T5frankie]

LINK (http://www.box.com/s/ex7qq94bxsr76680jyd8), there were 3 different final drive ratios on M56L's, personally i'm going for a longer ratio box

like what?

[p fandango]

like what?
there all listed in the link i attached, its a excel sheet of ratios/speed for most volvo gearboxes

[T5frankie]

there all listed in the link i attached, its a excel sheet of ratios/speed for most volvo gearboxes

would the 2.0 have differnt ratios/speeds than the 2.5 as that is saying that an m56l fitted to a 2.0 20valve is good for 170mph that cant be right

[dalhousie2008]

not all the same, the early ones had a different speedo drive, i know because mine is. would that fit a v70r or would it need altering?

[dalhousie2008]

2.5 20 valve is the same as t5 isn't it?

[daza-b]

what code is the 2.5t gearbox pedro?

[T5frankie]

not all the same, the early ones had a different speedo drive, i know because mine is. would that fit a v70r or would it need altering?

850 ones need modifying to fit v70's as internal and external slaves

[p fandango]

would the 2.0 have differnt ratios/speeds than the 2.5 as that is saying that an m56l fitted to a 2.0 20valve is good for 170mph that cant be right
i would of thought the 2.0litre would have a lower final drive than the 2.5litre, no thats only a guess.

The M56L has a different 1st & 2nd gear to a M56H, the other 3 gears are the same ratio. So if you get one with the same 4.00:1 as our M56H all your gaining is more wheelspin unitl you get into 3rd, then its exactly the same as before

[T5frankie]

what code is the 2.5t gearbox pedro?

i would imagine the same as a t5 an m56h

[T5frankie]

i would of thought the 2.0litre would have a lower final drive than the 2.5litre, no thats only a guess.

The M56L has a different 1st & 2nd gear to a M56H, the other 3 gears are the same ratio. So if you get one with the same 4.00:1 as our M56H all your gaining is more wheelspin unitl you get into 3rd, then its exactly the same as before

you got any info on the final drive for a v70 2.0 20v?

[Volvostorm]

not all the same, the early ones had a different speedo drive, i know because mine is. would that fit a v70r or would it need altering?

Wouldn't matter, as the later cars used the ABS sensors for the speedo drive

[daza-b]

no good for ya then?

[smithson007]

850 ones need modifying to fit v70's as internal and external slaves

Good chance to do away with ya DMF and get a 850r clutch fired in.

[dalhousie2008]

just didn't want him to buy one and it not fit, be the last thing he needs

[T5frankie]

no good for ya then?

yeah it would fit but i'm looking for something different a 2.0 box would give better acceleration but max out at 140 ish

[Dan850r]

Theres a p2ex plod up by me with a m56lk in it. Can find out how much they want if its still there

[T5frankie]

Good chance to do away with ya DMF and get a 850r clutch fired in.

thats the plan

[daza-b]

yeah it would fit but i'm looking for something different a 2.0 box would give better acceleration but max out at 140 ish

know what ya mean bud, but dont ya think thats a cause for trouble? your pushing the engine to the limit on standards, dont you think the extra acceleration could cause it to be just a little too much? only looking out for ya in the long run ;)

[T5frankie]

know what ya mean bud, but dont ya think thats a cause for trouble? your pushing the engine to the limit on standards, dont you think the extra acceleration could cause it to be just a little too much? only looking out for ya in the long run ;)

there is a certain person on here using one to great effect mate, so i need a box with the 4.45:1 final drive max out at 145 instead of 162

[p fandango]

what code is the 2.5t gearbox pedro?
2.5 10v & 20v 1996 use M56H with 4.00:1 final drive

now Frankie, again according to the 1996 press release. The 2.0 10v uses the same M56H but with a 4.45:1 final drive

[daza-b]

ok no probs......good luck :)

[p fandango]

there is a certain person on here using one to great effect mate, so i need a box with the 4.45:1 final drive max out at 145 instead of 162
i stil say thats more to do with having a LSD than the box

[dalhousie2008]

God knows whats in mine t5 854 then, it wouldn't get over 150 on its gearing. I think 60 is 2,500 rpm.

I know 4th doesn't get much more than 110 ish

Pulls like a train though.

[T5frankie]

i stil say thats more to do with having a LSD than the box

i wouldnt have said so my lsd didnt help at all

[p fandango]

Theres a p2ex plod up by me with a m56lk in it. Can find out how much they want if its still there
i'd be interested if you could get a price please sir

[dalhousie2008]

So quick calculation, it would be 144 at 6,000 rpm.

ill check in the morning for certain

[T5frankie]

2.5 10v & 20v 1996 use M56H with 4.00:1 final drive

now Frankie, again according to the 1996 press release. The 2.0 10v uses the same M56H but with a 4.45:1 final drive

so that would work cos i know where one of them is

[T5frankie]

God knows whats in mine t5 854 then, it wouldn't get over 150 on its gearing. I think 60 is 2,500 rpm.

I know 4th doesn't get much more than 110 ish

Pulls like a train though.

could get over 130 in 4th in my v70r

[Dan850r]

i'd be interested if you could get a price please sir

Ok ill find out in the morning

[dalhousie2008]

honestly its nothing like that 110-115 absolute tops.

[dalhousie2008]

its ex plod, so who knows.

[p fandango]

could get over 130 in 4th in my v70r
with the raised rev limit & box i'm after i'll looking at 159.52 in 4th lol

[T5frankie]

honestly its nothing like that 110-115 absolute tops.

strange must have the 4.45:1 final drive then

[dalhousie2008]

probably i guess so ill take check it tomorrow. but she is nippy, im only running 11.5 psi on an mbc and shes nippy.

[T5frankie]

probably i guess so ill take check it tomorrow. but she is nippy, im only running 11.5 psi on an mbc and shes nippy.

could already be a 2.0l box

[smithson007]

could get over 130 in 4th in my v70r

Same here. Around 145 in myne.

[dalhousie2008]

Pity your not closer could had a go and see if it's what your after box wise. To be honest it's a bit wasted it's just a spare car.

[M-R-P]

Theres a p2ex plod up by me with a m56lk in it. Can find out how much they want if its still there

They look great on paper mate...
The 5th gear ratio is epic but, I can say from experience (see sig) without big power and light weight, 5th is not much fun. Bloody good job 4th is good for 146 :)

[T5frankie]

Pity your not closer could had a go and see if it's what your after box wise. To be honest it's a bit wasted it's just a spare car.

what you doing with it mate?

[T5frankie]

pedro where is this information that says what boxes are on the 2.0 litre cars?

[dalhousie2008]

Mine 854 will just sit on drive, at moment it's a daily driver until I fix the 850r

[T5frankie]

Mine 854 will just sit on drive, at moment it's a daily driver until I fix the 850r

when will that be mate?

[M-R-P]

Dalhousie, I tried checking what box you had while I was doing your MBC. I shoved some of the crud away but it looked like the label had fallen off :(

[dalhousie2008]

I won't sell it. Dropped it 40mm today and fitted new brakes and strut brace. Just off loaded my auto t5r auto and the other r is at my mums. So only leaves the 850r and spare 854.

I had quite a few bits knocking about so it's had everything done apart from a 18 or 19t and exhaust. That's about it, Martin whens next southern meet

[p fandango]

pedro where is this information that says what boxes are on the 2.0 litre cars?
i've only got the 1996 brochure for the full 850 range LINK (http://www.box.com/shared/31oosjbxz6). Page 9

[M-R-P]

Martin whens next southern meet

Gonna start a thread about that soon ;) waiting for a date for the next essex meet, so they don't collide if we're still up for the car share...

[dalhousie2008]

Only if it's not in half term as got kids, who ever drives just chip in or you drive to me then I drive to judges or something thus sharing?

[AndysR]

Gonna start a thread about that soon ;) waiting for a date for the next essex meet, so they don't collide if we're still up for the car share...

Next Essex meet is Sunday 19th of February so it doesn't collide with WD40 ;)

[dalhousie2008]

Checked today 51mph at 2,000 rpm. So 153 at 6,000 rpm, which box would that be?

[T5frankie]

Checked today 51mph at 2,000 rpm. So 153 at 6,000 rpm, which box would that be?

161.75 is flat out for gearing in a t5 box around 6200rpms

[dalhousie2008]

that would be around 158mph, so maybe it is the normal box?