best turbo on standard rods?

[martybelfastt5]

ok so my 15g is a little noisy not a prob as i intend changing it soon,
so does the tt hybrid need strengthend rods? or safe as a 15/16 ect
am i best sticking with a ported 16t?

[T5frankie]

obviously a 19t mate

[daza-b]

ok so my 15g is a little noisy not a prob as i intend changing it soon,
so does the tt hybrid need strengthend rods? or safe as a 15/16 ect
am i best sticking with a ported 16t?

t5frankie is running a 19t on standards

[daza-b]

lol beat me too it

[T5frankie]

lol beat me too it

too slow mate.........like your car pmsl

[LiamT4]

More to do with boost levels and mapping on these sized turbos, you can do the rods with a 15g if theres too much boost to soon and with good mapping you can run a 19t on standard rods (up to a certain amount of power/torque).

Wobbly dave was running his c70 with a 19t on standard rods and i think andysR is also running standard rods. (as well as a quite a few others)
Both quick cars.

[daza-b]

too slow mate.........like your car pmsl

o0o0o :rotfl: i would say faster than yours at min.....but i aint that nasty :hilarious!

[smithy]

witch tt hybrid are u talking and as said before its down to maping and the way peeps drive mate

[martybelfastt5]

so mapping essential? as i was hoping that i could change the turbo and exhaust run the standard t5r ecu until such a time as an upgrade,as when i add up all the things that needed to see her back on the road its getting scary,lol tho over a period of time adding seems a lot more realistic,

[martybelfastt5]

just the one listed for the 850 on the tt website

[AndysR]

so mapping essential? as i was hoping that i could change the turbo and exhaust run the standard t5r ecu until such a time as an upgrade,as when i add up all the things that needed to see her back on the road its getting scary,lol tho over a period of time adding seems a lot more realistic,

I can't see why you couldn't use the TT 15G/T28 hybrid with the standard map to start with, it's a good turbo... ;)

[T5frankie]

More to do with boost levels and mapping on these sized turbos, you can do the rods with a 15g if theres too much boost to soon and with good mapping you can run a 19t on standard rods (up to a certain amount of power/torque).

Wobbly dave was running his c70 with a 19t on standard rods and i think andysR is also running standard rods. (as well as a quite a few others)
Both quick cars.

you might say mine is quick one day diesel boy lol

[smithy]

that turbo is a t28 hybrid mate not a bad turbo and very slightly bigger than a 19t .u will need whites or blues injectors though for that turbo.u can run on standard ecu but for the sake of 150 pounds u could get a hlm remap that would be alot better even better get 1 for a 19t .but when u have fitted all of this get the car on the rollors asap mate to check fueling and boost

[merc85]

I can't see why you couldn't use the TT 15G/T28 hybrid with the standard map to start with, it's a good turbo... ;)

Ive heard the above goe's well to lol

[LiamT4]

you might say mine is quick one day diesel boy lol

:hilarious

It goes alright for a diesel though, might have to take it on the 1/4mile to compare it with fandangos d5. lol

[martybelfastt5]

food for thought thanks
injectors will be got suitable for said turbo
my main problem is that we dont have any1 over here who has much experience mapping 850s so i can trust in any good recomended tuner?
also didnt really want somthing as big as the 19t lol

[BlackBeast]

GT2871r at base boost would be the best turbo on standard rods.

[T5frankie]

food for thought thanks
injectors will be got suitable for said turbo
my main problem is that we dont have any1 over here who has much experience mapping 850s so i can trust in any good recomended tuner?
also didnt really want somthing as big as the 19t lol

you'll be lucky to find someone over here too

[martybelfastt5]

GT2871r at base boost would be the best turbo on standard rods.
seems to be a popular turbo, so what flange and air ratio would be right for the 850???

[BlackBeast]

T3 and .63a/r housing would be the one to go for. If you are going this route, get ready to spend £1k on the turbo alone.

[martybelfastt5]

found a couple locally for sale lol tho air ratio is different,,,

[bigrotch]

I've got 15g with housing forsale pm me if ya interested just taken off my car, there is a vid on here somewhere doin a 60-100 pull

[NORDIC R]

food for thought thanks
injectors will be got suitable for said turbo
my main problem is that we dont have any1 over here who has much experience mapping 850s so i can trust in any good recomended tuner?
also didnt really want somthing as big as the 19t lol

Buy my 18t ill buy a 19 both happy n give ya some thing to play with :-) btw the banana,s for sale!!!!

[T5Tom]

Buy my 18t ill buy a 19 both happy n give ya some thing to play with :-) btw the banana,s for sale!!!!

How much do you want for the 18t bud? I'm after an upgrade from the standard t5 turbo

[NORDIC R]

Im toying with the idea of a 19t not confirmed yet....

[martybelfastt5]

found one right air ratio tho the t23 flange,i see there is an adopter tho assuming it wold maybe foul bulkhead,?

[martybelfastt5]

Buy my 18t ill buy a 19 both happy n give ya some thing to play with :-) btw the banana,s for sale!!!!

HA if your struggling with mk 2 16v golfs ive nothing to worry about now in standard form,,,,lol

[Volvostorm]

found one right air ratio tho the t23 flange,i see there is an adopter tho assuming it wold maybe foul bulkhead,?

My GT3071R (which is bigger) has a T25 flange, with an adaptor, and it doesn't foul the bulkhead.

My adaptor is about 10mm thick.

[martybelfastt5]

thats good news they dont seem to hard come by with that flange for jap stuff,,so the next question is internal or external wastgate and whats the difference?

[claymore]

thats good news they dont seem to hard come by with that flange for jap stuff,,so the next question is internal or external wastgate and whats the difference?
If you go external, you will have to make a new manifold.

[martybelfastt5]

internal it is then ,,,lol
thanks all!

[BlackBeast]

My GT3071R (which is bigger) has a T25 flange.

Why did you not buy a T3 exhaust housing? That's like using 6pot brake calipers with 280mm discs.

[martybelfastt5]

ive found some turbos locally used at good money which are t23 flanged for 200sx ect that would be my reason, that dosent restrict or anything?

[Volvostorm]

Why did you not buy a T3 exhaust housing? That's like using 6pot brake calipers with 280mm discs.

Because, at the time Owen's didn't have any T3 flanged housings, and they weren't expecting any for about 6-8 months

They offered me a deal on this one instead, its been ported, blades cut back and has a metal bearing cage.

[AndysR]

Ive heard the above goe's well to lol

It's not too bad thanks :)

[martybelfastt5]

hows is the tt andy as far as fitting straight swop? might make more sense and work out similar to this,tho im starting to look on the 18,19t differently too,,lol

[AndysR]

hows is the tt andy as far as fitting straight swop? might make more sense and work out similar just to but this,tho im starting to look on the 18,19t differently too,,lol

It's a direct fit replacement, no modifications to the car required at all ;)

[BlackBeast]

Because, at the time Owen's didn't have any T3 flanged housings, and they weren't expecting any for about 6-8 months

They offered me a deal on this one instead, its been ported, blades cut back and has a metal bearing cage.

They never do have any T3 housings for the 3071 cause Garrett don't make one, if they did have one it would have been from ATP. Metal bearing cage is a must.

[merc85]

18t will need the Larger 3" Front pipe, and gets on song at 3,000 rpm upwards

[smithy]

18t will need the Larger 3" Front pipe, and gets on song at 3,000 rpm upwards

18t uses standard downpipe mate 19t uses me7 downpipe 3in downpipe .thats the reason why the 18t demands a price premium when selling them.

[T5Tom]

18t uses standard downpipe mate 19t uses me7 downpipe 3in downpipe .thats the reason why the 18t demands a price premium when selling them.

Do you know anyone thats selling an 18t by any chance? :)

[merc85]

18t uses standard downpipe mate 19t uses me7 downpipe 3in downpipe .thats the reason why the 18t demands a price premium when selling them.

Mine came with a 3" angled Housing, But i did whilst looking for a Down pipe use the Straight housing. (i forgot lol)

[Volvostorm]

They never do have any T3 housings for the 3071 cause Garrett don't make one, if they did have one it would have been from ATP. Metal bearing cage is a must.

That will be the reason why :)

I wasn't told that bit, they said they could supply a T3 flange.

The metal cage was one thing I made sure it was going to have, I couldn't believe that they came with a plastic cage.